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Honestly, I thought it pretty obviously was a reply to the, "I think we might actually get ahead this issue." comment myself.

That said, I'm not really the biggest fan of twitter myself, but I've seen it used fairly effectively as another sort of update service for some websites.


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Originally Posted by Oliin View Post
That said, I'm not really the biggest fan of twitter myself, but I've seen it used fairly effectively as another sort of update service for some websites.
What bothers me here is that there's no separation of ideaspace.

If a dev Twits about some fun movie he watched or a fun game he played, that might often get written up as a dev post in some of our 'Hero and Villain Cluture' board since those topics might indeed be interesting to people who play this game.

However, Twits about funny youtube videos or other minutia -- diary stuff, as I mentioned -- is crammed right in their along side it.

If a dev Twits directly about CoH, it's lost in a sea of Twits.

Here's what I'd do to fix the dev digest, assuming that VB doesn't support this feature natively:

havea shell script or a php script running on the web server do a search for posts every few minutes via VB's existing search mechanism. Scrape any relevant posts for content, links, and identifying data.

Save these posts in a tiny sqlite DB file.

Again, using the existing post modifying archtecture VB already has in place, have this script update the Dev Digest post.

Run every 10 minutes via a cron job or something similar.


 

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Positron's statement could apply to several of those, or to some private conversation he had with Back Alley Brawler. I *think* it probably applies to the statement about i16 bugs. There's no way to be sure
Actually, yes. Yes there is.

Posi's tweet reads:
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@CoHBABs You've jinxed yourself now.about 2 hours ago from TweetDeck in reply to CoHBABs
If you click the "in reply to CoHBABs" portion, it links you back to the specific tweet Posi was replying to.

And yes, it's the bug fixing one.


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I don't know if I could disagree more with your OP, AmazingMoo. I mean, hypothetically speaking, there has to be a point where it's simply impossible to keep adding disagreement.


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Like so many things, I just ignore Twitter.

Honestly there is nothing the Devs could possibly twit about, that I care enough to read, that won't be regurgitated on these boards in one form or another.


 

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I'm going to admit that I stay away from almost all social networking sites. Basically, If I have something to say, I say it here, on my SG's private forums, or talk directly by phone, SMS, Steam messenger or e-mail. And given my join date as compared to my post count, you can see I don't typically have a lot to say here.

Basically, it boils down to a lack of interest. My deviantart site hasn't been updated in forever, since I just don't care to write up what's going on in my life. I've had the occasional desire to try out Facebook, or Twitter, but realistically I know that I'll tweet once or twice and then promptly forget about it. And you know, I'm fine by that. I'm not James Bond, or Malcolm Reynolds, I don't have interesting things happening in my life on a daily basis. When it boils right down to it, I'm not far off from this guy:



(Let me just state for the record here that unlike that guy, I am fluent in French)

And you know what? I'm fine with that. If I have something important to say, the people who need to know get called. Or e-mailed, or whatever. The people who don't, well, don't. I don't hate Twitter. I don't even dislike Twitter. I am completely and totally ambivalent about Twitter, and it'll take one heck of a lot more than being able to know that War Witch had Chef Boyardee for lunch, or that Paula Abdul quit American Idol to get me off this fence. Somehow, this makes me a luddite.

Whatever.

(Oh, and as for the "newspaper" issue, I'm all about digital newspaper subscriptions. All the news, none of the paper.)


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it's lost in a sea of Twits.
Welcome to Twitter. This is by far the most accurate description I've seen yet.


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Putting my web developer hat on for a moment, (Which is partially how I make money to play this silly game!) I'm not a fan of twitter either. I mean what does it do, really, that RSS, SOAP and Atom don't already do in much better more decentralized way?

If I'm a famous person and I have some news to share with the world about my book signing or public appearance, I can just update the blog on my website and everyone who's subscribed to my atom feed will know about it within 10 minutes to an hour. I don't have to be technician in order to do that. Most blog tools these days are user-friendly enough that I can do all that from a mobile phone.

How does twitter do that better, really?

I'm an old codger but when I got on the Internet it was all about breaking out of the walled gardens of closed, proprietary third party services. It was about "do it yourself." Twitter takes a step back from that in my opinion.

But if CoH devs want to use this as news service, whatever. I still ain't gonna read it.


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Somehow, this makes me a luddite.
Oy, I'm becoming very sorry I used that word. I was light-heartedly describing an imaginary person (which I thought I made clear) and not any particular real person so I thought it would be alright.

Live and learn.

Anyway, I sort of get this perception that a lot of people are jumping to the conclusion that you aren't really twittering if you're not publishing your own life online. Creating a twitter account does not ipso facto commit you to telling people "I'm sitting on the patio" (Yeah, I think that Verizon commercial is funny).

The way I use it is not much different than an RSS feed. It's just more immediate and more tightly focused and there's the option to reply that a RSS feed doesn't provide.

I'm afraid that the three(!) people following me, who are pretty much all forumites who recognized the name of a fellow forumite and "subscribed" for that reason, must all be pretty disappointed that my life is so boring that I don't even post when I'm grilling a hamburger. *heh*

As for the value of the signal/noise that Twitter provides, that's in the eye of the beholder. If you don't see the value, that's fine. You can acknowledge that it DOES provide value to some people and be fine with that. I don't really get the emotional reaction that it triggers in some folks, whether for or against, but it's par for the course for any new technology.

We've wandered pretty far afield from the original post. The bottom line for anyone with Desmodus' concern is that you don't need Twitter to have a line to the red-names; in fact, Twitter does not really give you any special line to the red-names. Not unless your primary interest is their personal lives as opposed to game-related information.

Not to mention that War Witch feels like she's suddenly been stuck on a slide and put under a microscope. ha ha ha!

Oh, well. We love you Melissa. Tweet about anything that you feel like. Despite how it looks, we're really not all hanging on your every thought and sneering in disappointment when that thought is about something related to your life and not to your job.

So, yeah. Twitter or don't. In the greater scheme of things, it's not going to make an iota of difference to anyone but you, anyway. Just, maybe, before you condemn something (Twitter or otherwise) as worthless, you look at your fellows who ARE finding value in it and consider acknowledging that maybe that's evidence that it has some kind of value even if the value is in places that don't hold any attraction for you.


 

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you know moo, i dislike twitter, but you have skipped over the line to full on curmudgeon here. Disliking the information diffusion is one thing, but turning it into an entirely personal diatribe about how you don't think people should be wasting our time with the minutia of their inner thoughts carries a greater amount of irony than you may be fully aware of.

the dev digest is begin worked on, it is irrational to think it isn't, soon we will have the one stop area to check for relevant info once the appropriate tech-work is done. Now may be the time to pull upon the maturity we have accumulated from becoming adults and just learn to wait a few days. Really, it is just a video game, you know?


 

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I'll be glad when we get out Dev Digest back...


 

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Maybe it's just a sign of "Dev Digest Withdrawal". I'm really pretty surprised that multiple people have this perception that Twitter has somehow replaced the Dev Digest and, conversely, that City of Heroes is logically the only thing that any dev team member should ever post a tweet about.

Twitter isn't a forum. It isn't really even a conversation, although conversations have a way of getting started anyway.

It's a gossip network. Complaining that a gossip network is full of gossip is a little unrealistic.


 

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Let the devs have thier twitter.

Don't need community approval to have your own goram blog.


 

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I care little for that hyped up thing, as long they post the same news on the normal ways too.. on the forums.

I believe the first news of I16 was also from twitter (i call it twatter btw), aint that a bit 'weird' to read the news not on the forums, not on the website, but on some stupid twitter thing?


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I believe the first news of I16 was also from twitter (i call it twatter btw), aint that a bit 'weird' to read the news not on the forums, not on the website, but on some stupid twitter thing?
No stranger than news being on the forum instead of the main site.


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No stranger than news being on the forum instead of the main site.
Here maybe, for EU it was nothing new. Either we got the new from the US boards or site, but hardly ever from the EU forums or site (ever seen the EU updater? It doesnt get updated as frequent as the US one, afaik we dont even have info on boosterpacks or I16/GR).

The forums at least are part of the CoX section, twitter is.. ****.


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Putting my web developer hat on for a moment, (Which is partially how I make money to play this silly game!) I'm not a fan of twitter either. I mean what does it do, really, that RSS, SOAP and Atom don't already do in much better more decentralized way?

If I'm a famous person and I have some news to share with the world about my book signing or public appearance, I can just update the blog on my website and everyone who's subscribed to my atom feed will know about it within 10 minutes to an hour. I don't have to be technician in order to do that. Most blog tools these days are user-friendly enough that I can do all that from a mobile phone.

How does twitter do that better, really?

I'm an old codger but when I got on the Internet it was all about breaking out of the walled gardens of closed, proprietary third party services. It was about "do it yourself." Twitter takes a step back from that in my opinion.

But if CoH devs want to use this as news service, whatever. I still ain't gonna read it.
Part of what twitter does includes responding to information. It's a social network - you can respond to tweets in a way that you typically don't respond to blog posts. I mean, blogs are great, but they're not the only possible solution, or even necessarily the best.


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I've gone on and off twitter from time to time. I got myself an app that's constantly updating the people I follow. It's not the only tool I use, but I've come to appreciate it.

(1) Twitter encourages informality. My most recent twitter is "I love my Harmony 510 remote. One remote controls my desk TV for either Dish Sat watching or AppleTV, and living room TV for Dish Sat! " Now, I may do up a full blog entry of my experiences with my new remote, but this was a fast and easy way to tell people I liked it.

(2) Twitter DOES work with conversations. The site could do a better job showing the full conversation, or an app could do that too, but it's there.

(3) There is some interaction with people who for one reason or another don't do normal blogs. I liked a little note of "OK, I16 closed beta is later today" (or even "now"). And it's really instantaneous.

I've got no interest in people tweeting about the minutiae of their life. I've got a few friends I follow, some company reps (@Syfy is a fairly interesting read, with not too much marketing spoodge), and a few creative types whose tweets I find interesting. (There are creative types whose tweets I find completely uninteresting, but that's where the choice comes in.)


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Oh, and things do happen that would never happen in blogs. Like the funny custom license plate examples that showed up on Positron's list: "PLAN AHE", A VW-Bug with the plate of "FEATURE", and a red car with "FF0000"


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every time I have to restart the game or mapserver while working.
I thought devs simply commanded the game to behave?

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Devs: Get back on the message boards and fix the dev digest already!
Yes, this please.


 

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Twitter is a promotional tool and like any tool, it can be helpful or useless.

Good Twitter: keeping us in the loop about the forum migration.

Bad Twitter: Positron telling us what he's wearing under the armor today.


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Twitter is a promotional tool and like any tool, it can be helpful or useless.

Good Twitter: keeping us in the loop about the forum migration.

Bad Twitter: Positron telling us what he's wearing under the armor today.

This.

I don't have an account there because I have nothing to post there that I can't email or text the few people who might actually need to know. I don't need an account because no one really cares if I had a bagel for lunch or that OMG, I just stepped in gum!! I don't check most Twitter pages and I can't bring myself to do something people call "Tweeting."

But it does have it's useful place in the way we get information and there are a lot of people who use it to good advantage.

One of its features is the ability to completely ignore it if you so choose. If it confuses you, you can either learn more about how it works or never open a Twitter page if you don't want to.


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