Best way to deal with negative reputation?


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Originally Posted by Tealeaf View Post
I dislike sig pics myself. I just don't like having to scroll past them over and over again. But it seems to me that just disabling images is a more productive way to deal with this issue than neg rating people.
I'm liberally using Adblock myself. That image in question is not being blocked as I think its actually cool and well done.

I came across 650K or so animated one this morning that was blocked immediately.

So to anyone out there, think bandwidth please that is simply too large a file for a forum like this.



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Originally Posted by SunGryphon View Post
I know this is kind of an odd question, but how do you (generic) deal with people who give negative rep without signing their name?
If it's constructive, intelligent feedback, let it move you in a better direction.

If it's vindictive crap, treat it accordingly. Flush it and forget it, because this "reputation" system doesn't work like the stars we're used to. One person can't go rampaging through the forums, leaving negative rep on a whim and all by his/her lonesome make it appear as though you were the worst poster in history. The rep feature has a safeguard built in. You have to "spread reputation around" before you can downrate someone who you've already given negative rep, meaning if some insignificant twit decides he/she wants to ruin your reputation, he/she has to do it by giving one or more other players rep for every time he/she gives you negative rep.

In short, the jerks who treat the rep system like a popularity contest or revenge tool won't find it quite as easy to abuse. If they do decide to try, they'll have to coordinate their efforts, and I suspect the mods can monitor that kind of thing even if they aren't stupid enough to discuss it openly on the forums.


 

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I see no need for a "rep" system, so I ignore it. Spend enough time on the boards and you develop your own reputation and recognize others for their good/bad advice.


 

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Originally Posted by Luminara View Post
In short, the jerks who treat the rep system like a popularity contest or revenge tool won't find it quite as easy to abuse. If they do decide to try, they'll have to coordinate their efforts, and I suspect the mods can monitor that kind of thing even if they aren't stupid enough to discuss it openly on the forums.
LOL

The system thanks you for giving negative rep and hopes that the user given positve rep will do the same for you.

Tell me the system doesn't condone it.


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Ignoring any system of "reputation" tied to an anonymous internet audience would be my recommendation.

PS - I do, unlike some of the other responses, recommend doing what seems good to you without regard for the opinions of others. If someone disagrees, let them engage you in discussion on the issue. If they dont have the patience, stones, or mentality to do that, then their opinion is of no weight whatsoever.

Even if being a jackass seems good to you, go for it, but expect more people to express their displeasure or disagreement, and perhaps more forcefully, than otherwise. But don't expect civility, much less docility, to protect you from snide dings by the typical internet bully (swaggering tough online, douce as a convent schoolchild face to face).


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Originally Posted by enrious2 View Post
LOL

The system thanks you for giving negative rep and hopes that the user given positve rep will do the same for you.

Tell me the system doesn't condone it.
It actually hopes that "someone" will do the same for you. As in, "thanks for donating these clothes to this homeless shelter. If you're ever in need of assistance, I hope you find someone as charitable as you've been today." It's a general well-wishing, not a call for anyone specific to reciprocate.


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Originally Posted by Tealeaf View Post
I dislike sig pics myself. I just don't like having to scroll past them over and over again. But it seems to me that just disabling images is a more productive way to deal with this issue than neg rating people.
As long as it's in the feel of the "uploaded sig image" restrictions - less than 1/8th meg, 600*125 or so pixels - I'm fine with it.


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Originally Posted by Lemur_Lad View Post
I think the point is to make an effort to do more good things than bad things.
But what if I'm a villain and I want a bad reputation?


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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It actually hopes that "someone" will do the same for you. As in, "thanks for donating these clothes to this homeless shelter. If you're ever in need of assistance, I hope you find someone as charitable as you've been today." It's a general well-wishing, not a call for anyone specific to reciprocate.
Which makes my point even better.

It gives a generic hope of some possible future reciprocation and yet goes out of the way to grant positive reinforcement for leaving negative rep.

I'll leave it to the reader to draw their own conclusion of which behavior is encouraged.


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Originally Posted by SunGryphon View Post
I know this is kind of an odd question, but how do you (generic) deal with people who give negative rep without signing their name?
Okay, this is gonna sound really cheap, but... if you occasionally post that you're getting reputation hits, you'll probably get people to award you rep to "balance it out". Just make sure you don't complain too much, or other people might give you more hits for being a complainer.

Alternatively, ignore it... as far as I know, Rep doesn't mean anything.


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Until/unless the forum restricts posting privileges based upon rep (yes, I've been to forums that don't let people with no/low rep post in or read some sections ), rep is worth exactly as much as you let it be worth to you.

Personally, I find it better to judge people based on what they say, rather than what somebody else says about them, so the system doesn't mean much to me.


 

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I find it surprising that so many people give a crap about their reputation on a message board. For those who care, I do not think anyone is as concerned about your rating as you are.

I don't think that any person would be like, "you know... I bet that Bramphousian fellow is a tool. It would seem he currently has a negative reputation". Likewise, I doubt anyone would think, "That Bramphousian must be a swell guy. He has six reputation squares!"

I will probably never check to see what my reputation is at any given moment, and I'm not bothered enough by the system to disable it.




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oh no internet people are calling me names someone help

i don't think i can take this much longer

it's turning me into a nervous wreck


 

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not so much hurting your feelings as they are your brain.


 

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I received negative reputation the other day...for talking about negative reputation.


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I received negative reputation the other day...for talking about negative reputation.
Huzzah! Thanks for all the advice and replies. I'm taking the out of sight, out of mind approach and minimized the details on it. I don't mind it being there, and I just have to remind myself that there are trolls and then there are trolls. That reputation button must be like power pellets to them.


 

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I got negative reputation today for dissing farmers.

Woot!

Some negative reputation I take as a compliment. In the "negative reputation only means what you want it to" camp, that's a win, which is kind of an important point. Who is leaving you reputation is just as important or more than what your reputation is.


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I'm not too keen on the reputation idea. Doesn't do anything, and if it did I'd be pretty vocal about it. Since it doesn't do anything, I just play with it. That and the tags. Going to see how long I can go adding ridiculous tags to everything before I get scolded by a mod.

Anyway, I don't give negative reputation. I just give positive reputation to posts that make me laugh. I think everyone needs a good sense of humor.


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Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

 

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I'm still looking for the way not to display anybody else's rep, either. I know what I think about you; what other people think about you doesn't matter much to me.


 

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I received negative reputation the other day...for talking about negative reputation.
The first rule of reputation is that you do not talk about reputation!


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I do have one good use for the rep bar.

If I read a post and think to myself - damn - that poster is a jerk, then look at their rep and see it blaring red - then I am a bit relieved in that I am not the only one to see this. If it were green - it would give me a reason to at least re-consider my harsh opinion - as the fault might be mine. (I am working on being less judgmental )


 

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Originally Posted by SunGryphon View Post
I know this is kind of an odd question, but how do you (generic) deal with people who give negative rep without signing their name?

Just today, for example, I had a positive reputation from someone who signed their name (thank you), and a negative reputation for THE EXACT SAME THING, with no name.

It bothers me because I feel like it's an attack I can't defend against.

How should I deal with it? Ignore it entirely? Change what they didn't like so I don't get further negative rep? Do what they suggest in hopes they will come back and give me positive rep?
Well the forum developers can turn on the names on Rep instead of leaving them hidden. On a different board that uses this same board software they display WHO gives you rep good or bad. So people can't neg you and hide. Imo, they should enable it on this board too.


 

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By the way, here is an example:


 

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Finally found a thread.


I do support the vote, if there is one, to be able to delete reputation. Now I'm fully aware people may not like what I say and I support fighting to the death for their right to say it. But this is just spelling disaster, trolls can say anything or spam you. That much I don't care for. A red marked comment with lol doesn't say much. Let alone people getting outraged by something one says, I mean if I say something that offends you then talk to me about it don't attack me out of ignorance.

This system is similar to what Bioware has for SWTOR and they've avoided the rep function for precisely this sort of thing. Because spam isn't necessary, luckily though visitors can't see it thankfully. But otherwise some solutions: Remove it, allow the user to delete said comments, and names should be tied to the comments so it's not anon.

The anon also saves the commentor/suspect because they can say whatever offensive material they like and can't be ignored/reported. This is going to be exploited by trolls.

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Originally Posted by Dispari View Post
I'm not too keen on the reputation idea. Doesn't do anything, and if it did I'd be pretty vocal about it. Since it doesn't do anything, I just play with it. That and the tags. Going to see how long I can go adding ridiculous tags to everything before I get scolded by a mod.
Meh I think it can do quite the contrary. At least right now it's set to private although there's a bar under your total posts indicating a color. If a troll manages to spam you with offensive and or meaningless material, you could goto a section where nobody knows you and you may have a red square (or multiple ones) and people will no doubt look at it. I think it's counter productive especially since the rep is anonymous.


 

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Originally Posted by Ultimus View Post
By the way, here is an example:

Is it bad I tried to scroll the screenshot?