Official Forum Feedback Thread
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8_Ball,
Posted on: 2009-07-31 13:32 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Click the little arrow next to the name of the thread. It'll put you right to the first new post.
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Originally Posted by TheMESS
New forums are ok i suppose cant say i love the Hero colour theme it seems kinda washed out. But my biggest annoyance is the fact that you no longer jump to the newest post in a topic when you look at it or am i missing something?
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Originally Posted by Frost_NA
Click the little arrow next to the name of the thread. It'll put you right to the first new post.
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Here's another charming feature: losing posts! Before, at least in Firefox, if you accidentally hit "back" (some mice have buttons on them that do that), mis-click a link, accidentally close your tab, or hell, your browser crashes, what you've typed in an unfinished post's text box generally remains there when you return.
This is no longer the case. There's some kind of annoying script that decides what to put in the text box at the start of posting, say a quote of the previous poster. If you type, back out of the page, then return, the script reloads the full quote as though you didn't type anything at all. I've already lost three posts, one quite long and detailed, and I HATE IT!
I don't know how, I don't know why, but the old forums saved what was in the text boxes. The new ones don't, and will in fact overrite what's in the text boxes with what that damn script suggests. This has got to be fixed.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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One thing that seems to be unavailable is the "View All" option. Was much easier to browse that way.
Thelonious Monk
The new software appear to mark all forums read when you exit, even if you haven't opened them. If I enter to only look at something on one forum, why should it reset my browsing history on all the other forums. I liked the previous mechanic where the unread history was only reset when you viewed a forum. If there is a setting to change this, I can't find it. Pretty sure other vBulletin forums I have used didn't do this.
Please give us a simple board skin, the mass amounts of images, including that background one make it so that it's very difficult for some systems to handle browsing. Even with just one tab in Firefox with this site in, I get pauses when scrolling. Please don't torture my Eee PC too 
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
I've had 2 forum timeouts so far this morning, whilst trying to post. I guess that, when they updated the forum software, they didn't upgrade the creaky hardware they're hosted on! |
Without wishing to sound like I'm having a pop, I have noticed that nobody else complains about timeouts as frequently as you. Is it possible that the problem's at your end?
Thelonious Monk
The grey back ground behind the avatar image in the hero scheme is slightly better today. It's still pointless, but it doesn't look obviously wrong.
Teams are the number one killer of soloists.
Count me as one more for the "I hate image signatures" camp. I'm here to read the forums, not to look at dozens of photoshopped pictures proclaiming how kewl people's characters are in between every single post. Give me a button to just disable image signatures and I'll be happy.
Don't like the color gradient posts at all, don't like the big image in the background, don't like either color scheme. Toning the darkness of both schemes down a bit seems like it would make them much less fatiguing to look at.
I'm desperately hoping for a View All button soon.
On the upside, multiquoting and an apparent end to the mysterious disappearing post problem when mods kick in!
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
The Timezone settings don't work.
As in, I'm stuck seeing all the dates in American format.
I keep thinking that the calander has suddenly aquired 13 extra months from somewhere, until I remember some numpty went and screwed up the setting. Again.
-unamused-
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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I'm *very* surprised that there isn't an option in the Date & Time Options section of the CP to be able to view the date in DD-MM-YYYY instead of MM-DD-YYYY. If there is any way to add such an option in, I'd love to see it added for our EU players.
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Originally Posted by Techbot_Alpha_EU
The Timezone settings don't work.
As in, I'm stuck seeing all the dates in American format. I keep thinking that the calander has suddenly aquired 13 extra months from somewhere, until I remember some numpty went and screwed up the setting. Again. -unamused- |
I recently realized the [code] tag no longer works on these forums. This is a pretty nasty problem, considering it was the way a lot of people conveyed numerical results, tables, and other whitespace sensitive information. If possible, could that tag be enabled / added? Or is there an alternative I'm unaware of?
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Oh geez, I just looked at the City Scoop that you linked to. That just looks wrong. |
Originally Posted by Stargazer
Basically, all options suck to some degree, including the option to completely remove sig images, since there are obviously people that like having them. In my opinion, removing sig images would be the option that sucks *the least* though.
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I have to agree with Stargazer. Maybe if we can just remove images from the sigs. Or have an option that only removes images from signatures. Signatures can have actual useful information.
I, uhm, don't like the changes for the following reasons:
1. They load a lot better on internet explorer rather than firefox, and I mainly use firefox.
2. Why the hell does my name have an _NA now?
3. My game login became my forum login, sigh.
4. It looks updated, sure, but more compartmentalized or something. I liked everything on one scrollable page.
Barf. ;(
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The NA after your name stands for North America. It means that there was a name conflict during the forum merge with someone from the European servers. Per TheOcho's post at the top of this forum, this is a temporary measure and they'll be resolving name conflicts once they make sure the forum update has gone through smoothly.|
Originally Posted by Ballista_NA
2. Why the hell does my name have an _NA now?
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| 4. It looks updated, sure, but more compartmentalized or something. I liked everything on one scrollable page. |
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Originally Posted by Zortel
Please give us a simple board skin, the mass amounts of images, including that background one make it so that it's very difficult for some systems to handle browsing. Even with just one tab in Firefox with this site in, I get pauses when scrolling. Please don't torture my Eee PC too
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I feel the same. Its just slightly slower on my PC, but agonizingly tedious on my iPhones safari browser. The old forums were a delight to use on the iPhone.
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Count me in too for this. Sig images are an abomination in my opinion. However, I understand that some people like them, and I've no wish to deprive them of something that gives them pleasure, so I'd like the option to disable sig images be user-based. I'm referring to just sig images, not images in the body of a post.|
Originally Posted by Kelenar
Count me as one more for the "I hate image signatures" camp. I'm here to read the forums, not to look at dozens of photoshopped pictures proclaiming how kewl people's characters are in between every single post. Give me a button to just disable image signatures and I'll be happy.
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And just to be clear, I'd like to be able to do all three of the following, AT THE SAME TIME
1. see the images in a posts body
2 see the text of a sig
3. not see the images in that sig.
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Note: I do not like having to use my game account password to log into the forums. I know you probably consider these boards safe and whatever, but I don't. Please add the ability to set a different password for the boards than on our game account. Until then I will not be hanging out on these boards.
Thank you.
So I just adblocked all of the gradients and it is so much easier to read! Wish I could make the color a bit darker, but I'll take what I can get.
Also adblocking the sig images that I don't like, but I do that for any forum.
I also have the autopager plugin installed, so I 'view all' using that and it doesn't cause loading nightmares.
Likes: Ability to add images, I can report and block the bad ones, and I'll never have to see them again. Wasn't really a problem with avatars on the previous boards, so I'm not worried. I do like seeing peoples' creativity, and I like being able to put my badges in my sig 
Dislikes: The whole login thing with no security is all sorts of bad. I really don't want to find all of my characters deleted and my credit card with tons of rename tokens on it because someone stole my password.
At least my nc account has a different password than here.
Overall, I like VB, so I'm a fan. Probably want to change up the emoticons, and you might want to consider making the edit boxes match the background and foreground of the post so users can see what it will actually look like.
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Manoa, I love you. I love you so much. You just made the transition so much easier for me.
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Originally Posted by Manoa
You can bookmark http://boards.cityofheroes.com/forumdisplay.php?f=547...that'll send you directly to the English forums, which has a similar expanded layout as the old forums.
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I miss the ability to easily identify/access a parent post(er).
On the old forums, the title of each post was followed by "[Re: ParentPoster], where the name of the parent poster also acted as a link to the parent post.
This made it easy to see who a post was in reply to, and to access the post in question if you were so inclined.
Here we can get similar functionality with the quote tags, but this does not stand out quite as well, and, more importantly, people often reply to a post without quoting anything from said post.
This can at times make it a bit hard to figure out who is being replied to.
We can switch to threaded mode and attempt to locate the parent post there, but this can sometimes be quite a shore since we need to *find* the child post first, and this isn't always easy when you run into multiple levels of "More replies below current depth...".
Does anyone know of a better way to identify a parent post, and/or is there a way to implement this in vBulletin?
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Originally Posted by Snow_Globe
Except I loathe the sig graphics (and img tags in signatures that bypass the limits), yet I have to be able to view images to even attempt to layout the Scoop in a forum friendly manner.
There is no excuse that I've seen that gets around the fact that people should have the ability to say "no" to images (either embedded or as img tags) in signatures. |
That may be one of the few times I've mentioned disabling images without also mentioning needing MORE control over what we disable. If you look at most of my posts about it, you'll see that I'm a proponent of more control, such as the ability to turn off ONLY images in ONLY signatures.
I need access to the links in some peoples signatures, and unless someone gets witty with ASCII art, the Text sigs don't bother me, but I'd rather be able to turn off Images in signatures so that I don't have to be bombarded with things I don't want to see unless I choose to.
I'd have to go back and look to see who I was responding to, and how their post was worded, but I think the reason I worded it as I did was due to how theirs was worded.
I'm glad I'm not in your shoes of working on the City Scoop and having to have images turned on so that the Scoop looks right, and in consequence having to see all of the images in signatures.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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Please, re-read the first sentence in the text of mine that you quoted.|
Originally Posted by Stargazer
When looking at suggestions like this, it's easy to evaluate them in context of the old forums.
What we need to remember is that on the old forums the posting of images was limited to the Dev/Community team, while on these new forums *everyone* can do so. Consequently it was rather rare to run into images on the old forums, but now that everyone can use them we can expect them to be used *much* more frequently, hopefully to good effect. We're going to see people using screenshots to help describe problems they're having, graphs in balance discussions, and pictures of fuzzy kittens in photo albums. Not only are we going to see images used much more often, we're also going to see cases where multiple images are set to be displayed adjacent to eachother. This is great for comparisons, and provides an overview that is not trivial to replicate with links to images. We also have a rather extreme example in the City Scoop. Try reading an issue of that with images disabled. It's... not quite the same. Basically, disabling images in order to avoid signature images comes at the cost of the functionality offered by our newfound ability to post images. As people start taking more and more advantage of that ability, that cost can become quite high. The alternatives aren't exactly great either. Sure, we can turn signatures off entirely, but signatures can contain relevant information, and many use their signatures to bring attention to interesting threads. In other cases, the signatures can actually contain the answer to a question, or at least part thereof. We can also use adblocking extensions to block individual signature images. However, these blocking rules must be applied individually to different image locations, which means that as you keep reading threads with posters you haven't seen before, you have to keep adding blocking rules, something that can become especially cumbersome in big threads, such as the "official" threads about various issues. This is further complicated by people using "cycling images" (using image links that refer to alternating images). In these cases, each cycled image must be covered, which means that sometimes it's not enough to make one blocking pass through someone's signature. Sometimes you'll have to add one more blocking rule just by hitting refresh on a thread (repeated until you've gone through all their alternate images). Sometimes you'll be able to block several alternates at once by using rules for a specific directory, but this will not always be possible (people using different locations for different sig images), and sometimes you'll run into people using the same directory for both signature images and other images (which means that if you block out all their alternating sig images with one rule, you'll also block other images they might post). And of course, some people are using more than one signature image, which again means more work to block them all out. As more and more people start to use signature images (and also *change* those images), the work to keep them all blocked will continue to rise (and the number of applied blocking rules will become quite high). Basically, all options suck to some degree, including the option to completely remove sig images, since there are obviously people that like having them. In my opinion, removing sig images would be the option that sucks *the least* though. |
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That ain't right. And it ain't what I'm about.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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1 - Go to "User CP" |
Originally Posted by Sarrate
I recently realized the [code] tag no longer works on these forums. This is a pretty nasty problem, considering it was the way a lot of people conveyed numerical results, tables, and other whitespace sensitive information. If possible, could that tag be enabled / added? Or is there an alternative I'm unaware of?
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2 - From the list on the left side, select "Edit Options"
3 - Scroll all the way down, and choose "Enhanced Interface"
4 - Weep with joy at the greatness of the new forums.
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
Subjective Feedback: No option to expand forum categories on the main page, so the reader is forced to open each category, then open another category in order to reach the forum he/she wants to read. Needs to be more intuitive and user friendly, or have an option to subscribe to entire forums (not just threads).
Hyperlinks aren't colored. In fact, they're visually indistinguishable from plain text which has been underlined. Should be colored to make them easy to quickly identify as links.
Popup tooltips are really freaking annoying and distracting.