Soloing Elite Bosses
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Posted on: 2008-08-22 11:09 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Most EBs give me some grief, mainly because I usually rest my survivability on stacking holds and immobs which don't tend to work on purple triangles 
Shadowhunter is the only one in recent memory. Don't know why, but could not take that bugger down...
Posi has been a thorn in all sides, my main being a Dark/Dark Corr, that was fun the first time. But then the second time I fought him as an EB it was easy by comparison. Either he missed more than he should have or he's a little harder the first time.
Sefu was a long solo battle, just because we kept missing each other.
Metal Shift wasn't a problem for me, Calystix can be either easy or hard depending on who you are, didn't solo him with my Dark/Dark.
Those Scrappy Vindicators can be a nightmare at times.
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Mother Mayhem for Carni for some reason, think it was a combination of her flitting about and the openness of the map she's on.
Anyone in an enclosed space is fairly easy for her (even Nemises? once he came out of that damn PFF)
Nosferatu on my En/En blaster. No Mez protection when I faced him, or any Break Free's. Posi can also give me some trouble too, though Anti-Matter seems to be worse.
The easiest ever was Snaptooth, as Power Push and his weakness to knockback made the fight laughable.
It really does depend on the character I'm playing - if I had to point to any EB as an all-round nightmare then I guess Calystix and Infernal are as close as it gets to EBs I dread facing. I've had more characters that struggled with them than ones that didn't, mainly because of the summons and their own high spike damage. Positron and Stheno are often nasty too and are EBs I'm certainly wary/respectful of. I also usually find Silver Mantis tougher than any of the other Arachnos EBs.
But most EBs that I find tough on one character will be easy for others. And honestly even the tough EBs aren't that hard to solo using either an Enrage/Luck overdose or a T9 godmode (or Demonic/EyeOfTheMagus) if available - and often I don't even need that. Never had to resort to Shivans to solo anything.
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It really does depend on the character I'm playing - if I had to point to any EB as an all-round nightmare then I guess Calystix and Infernal are as close as it gets to EBs I dread facing. I've had more characters that struggled with them than ones that didn't, mainly because of the summons and their own high spike damage. Positron and Stheno are often nasty too and are EBs I'm certainly wary/respectful of. I also usually find Silver Mantis tougher than any of the other Arachnos EBs.
But most EBs that I find tough on one character will be easy for others. And honestly even the tough EBs aren't that hard to solo using either an Enrage/Luck overdose or a T9 godmode (or Demonic/EyeOfTheMagus) if available - and often I don't even need that. Never had to resort to Shivans to solo anything.
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Well, it stands to reason that a given char should be able to beat some EBs and not others I think. Same as some villains are out of reach of certain heroes in the comics, due to their particular powers, whereas other heroes of a similar power level can mush em.
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The shivan EB in ouroboros ALWAYS gives me trouble no matter what toon im on.
Other than that . .. . . . . jade spider only other EB that makes me think about running away.
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Villain Side Calystix has been the only real pain - the others I can usually take apart using a combo of BU+AS then Placate etc
On Heroes the only one i can remember struggling against is the Carnie EB at the end of the 45-50 Oroborus Arc - can't remember her name but the -Recovery whupped my [censored] many times!
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Yeah, it really is down to the AT of your character, and the EB you're facing I think.
For example, RoboTank, a Eng/Inv tanker, really struggled against the Automaton Positron (uber-defender?) because of his buffs/debuffs (although popping a full load of Red Pills did the trick), but on the same mission, the Automaton Manticore was a doddle (squishy blaster).
I've always found maxing out on red pills to be a good, if somewhat less gracefull, solution to most foes. (if you can't hurt it, hit it harder )
The one foe Robo just couldn't take down at all was the Madame of Mystery. Even with the temporary Psychic Cleaver, she was just healing faster than I could do damage, no matter how many red pills I popped.
Shadowcall, on the Red side, struggled a bit against Barracuda, but again popping red pills did the trick.
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The shivan EB in ouroboros ALWAYS gives me trouble no matter what toon im on.
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Pah. I defetead that EB with just jab and the veteran rward axe on my tanker... Took a while but I did it. 
But the one that always have and always will cause me trouble is Positron in any shape or form. I do not enjoy defense debuffs.
My experiences with Positron are limited to my Elec/Elec Brute who could probably solo him with Brawl on auto.
However, the Arachnoid EBs are... horrible. Terrible. Toxic damage, slows, godly regeneration rates... WHY?
The one experience that stands out was my encounter with Valkyrie; I had no problems with Positron but Valkyrie surprised me. After I defeated her she goes ressing herself and starts hitting me fully buffed; knockback after knockback so I had no chance to retreat (and to come back later after the buffs had ran out).
This was with my MM robotics/ff. When I got back I added my dark/dark corrupter to the mix and wrapped it up painlessly.
I only have one EB i seem to have troubles with on all my characters and that's silver mantis, amount of times i've needed to ask for help against her, despite the fact i've soloed most of the EB's on heroes side with my mind/empath.
Ghost Widow.
When Rapthorn was doing her Arc, I thought "Simple! BU + AS! Rinse and respeat!".
Then she used Soul Storm and I was like "[censored]!". At the time, I didn't know it was a Mag 100 Hold. Had to get a Level 50 in to lay the smack down on her.
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My DM/DA brute has lain waste to almost every EB it's encountered. The only ones that gave me trouble were Calystyx and Infernal. That was primarily due to the fact that they have pets summons. Calystyx was a particular pain because I was barely level 20 something and had little in the way of aggro management to deal with those damn coral pets. DM is pretty much a single target set so I have to rely on DA to keep things under control.
Undoubtedly my DM/DA brute's finest moment was knocking seven flavours of caviar out of Barracuda whilst simultaneously soaking up the damage from the dozen or so mobs that accompanied her. Glorious.
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I only have one EB i seem to have troubles with on all my characters and that's silver mantis, amount of times i've needed to ask for help against her, despite the fact i've soloed most of the EB's on heroes side with my mind/empath.
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The only ones my main a Kat/Regen scrapper had major trouble with were Silver Mantis who just DoT'd me to death. She was appaling and I failed a timed mission because of her.
The other one I had real problems with was Automoton Positron who debuffed me like mad, died a good few times but being a scrapper I kept pounding him, and evetually took him down. Then his mate in the same mission was a cakewalk, and I made him suffer mightly for slowing me down... 
It's been solo long since I solo'd any EBs not at level 50 that I can't remember if I had any trouble with them.
As a lot have people have mentioned, Automoton Positron was a bit of a challenge mainly due to the stacked debuff. But there is nothing wrong with retreating then coming back when the debuffs have dropped.
And the shivan EB was interesting the 1st time as I didn't read his details and just ploughed in with 1/2 my shields off....
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The shivan EB in ouroboros ALWAYS gives me trouble no matter what toon im on.
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Pah. I defetead that EB with just jab and the veteran rward axe on my tanker... Took a while but I did it.
But the one that always have and always will cause me trouble is Positron in any shape or form. I do not enjoy defense debuffs.
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Ok i admit iv only really tried him with an /sr scrapper and a warshade solo but still ummmmm you know he does that thing where ummmmm . . . . . . . ok your better than me!!! :'( (ok why aint there a crying graemlin? seriously?!)
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The only EB I've had problems with on my DM/EA were malaise (debuff'd to high heaven and fears all over the place) and the DE hero in Eden who just slowed me into oblivion. Can't say I've had any other real problems with my Scrapper. never really came across any EB's with my Elec/Fire as it was pretty much all teams to 50.
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Lord Recluse gave me problems for the first time with my stalker while solo at the weekend. First and second attempts he summoned half a dozen Bane Spider Executioners, followed almost immediately by half a dozen Bane Spider Scouts, and then followed it up with another large Bane summon (Commandoes I think - both times I had a bit much on my plate at that moment to confirm) and I died with him at a sliver of health left both times. The second attempt I actually ran away around a corner to use Aid Self, but was then annihilated by a huge mob of Banes washing over me.
Yet on my 3rd attempt with a reset mission (I crashed to desktop, I didn't change difficulty, so the reset was unintentional), and using less red insps than the first attempt (but Overload was back up, unlike my second attempt where I used Demonic and then Lucks), Recluse only summoned a single Bane Spider Executioner and I'd killed him before he could summon anything else. He went from being horribly difficult to being a wuss, despite the fact he was the same EB throughout, just because the random number generator gave me a break on the 3rd attempt.
This was all on Ruthless btw - that's pretty much the only difficulty I use for soloing (I'd rather have more enemies than the higher level of Relentless).
Most other EBs have been pretty easy for him, though, being an EM stalker. Tbh specific bosses like Rikti Chief Soldiers (hit harder and more accurately than a lot of EBs in melee, I find) and Carnie Master Illusionists and Dark Ring Mistresses often give him greater trouble than most EBs do.
Following reading the thread called "Soloing Infernal" in Players Questions, I had a good old think about problematic EBs and came up with the following :-
Both my two level 50 heroes are melee based so are absolutely useless at fighting Nosferatu solo. Even with a tray full of inspirations, I still struggle... and can only defeat him by using temp powers, especially Shivans. However, can't remember any other hero EB that has caused any major problems to a claws/regen or fire/axe melee AT.
Other ones that have proved hard are Barracuda , Metal Shift and Calystix on villains... especially for my dark/kin corruptor.
The ultimate EB that has caused problems for my villains is Positron. He certainly is one tough mother [censored].
So what EBs have given you the most grief?
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