Respecs for 5.99?


Alphane

 

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You make an interesting point Night and I'm sure these questions may well be some of the most hotly debated in the development of this 'new' art form. But as I see it how it stands the premise we all accepted when we enrolled is that to achieve something in game takes time and effort, NC even seem to object to gold sellers/item sellers/PL for cash I'm pretty sure it is considered a breach of EULA. Now they have abandoded that premise and allowed people to influence, however indirectly (or through loopholes they may not have seen) , the in game economy. This seems to me the first step on a slippery slope to somewhere I don't know I'd be entirely happy going. Perhaps the MMO of the future will accept cash or time as equally valuable inputs though the whole process of balancing that opens up a whole new nightmare.
For my part I'm just not happy with what NC have done here, it seems to set a nasty precedent given what I perceive to be there premise, Cash should not equate to in-game reward.
There assertions that others should not trade cash for in-game reward also seems to be weakened by this move. Or are they preparing us for the day when you can 'Pimp' out your toon for £50 who knows.
Well thats my 0.02 inf worth or 0.000002 pence worth at current exchange rate!


 

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Sounds like a plan! When is this option going to go live? (If it hasn't already?)

I'm a ways off from a veteran respec, and I can't seem to find the time to do a respec trial, and with my highest level villan being level 35 currently I very much doubt I'll be able to get hold of the millions of infamy required for the crafted respec.

But my charcter suffers now from my poor foresight when choosing powers and I can't really do anything about it other than level and hope it works out in the end since I lack the time for the full run, and there's still a few months till a veteran reward lets me do it.

So I'd drop 6 quid in a heartbeat, I did just to get the Good vs Evil costume parts (Thanks for offering it to existing customers btw!)


 

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I use all my respecs up very soon on all my toons, even after carefully planning them, so this is great news for me, tbh its much easier for me to earn £5.99 than 30 mill inf


 

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this'll sound dumb, but do i need to subscribe rather than use game time cards to buy these things? or is there another way i can add my credit card to my account?


 

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Just an interesting note from Posi that I've just come across that may allay some concerns that may be brewing...

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Just a quick follow up:

We have no plans of getting rid of freespecs. Each Issue that brings with it major power changes (which is pretty much every single one, eh?) will bring a freespec with it.

We have no plans of getting rid of the respec trials.

We have no plans of getting rid of the dropped Respec Recipes.

We have no plans of getting rid of the Veteran Respecs that your account earns.

This is simply another way to get a Respec onto your character.

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And personally I think this is a good thing. For example, my main has done, and used, all three Respec Trials, has used all my vet Respecs and I hate farming (Doing it that is... I have no objection whatsoever to farmers) so I don't have wads of Inf lying around and if I did I'd spend it on things I need more anyway.

If I need another respec I either need to a) Wait another 10 months for my 48 month vet respec, b) Wait for a possible freespec with the next issue or c) spend the price of a pint and a half of beer (which I wouldn't drink anyway) to get one. So with that in mind I can't see any problem with this!


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Just an interesting note from Posi that I've just come across that may allay some concerns that may be brewing...

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Just a quick follow up:

We have no plans of getting rid of freespecs. Each Issue that brings with it major power changes (which is pretty much every single one, eh?) will bring a freespec with it.

We have no plans of getting rid of the respec trials.

We have no plans of getting rid of the dropped Respec Recipes.

We have no plans of getting rid of the Veteran Respecs that your account earns.

This is simply another way to get a Respec onto your character.

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And personally I think this is a good thing. For example, my main has done, and used, all three Respec Trials, has used all my vet Respecs and I hate farming (Doing it that is... I have no objection whatsoever to farmers) so I don't have wads of Inf lying around and if I did I'd spend it on things I need more anyway.

If I need another respec I either need to a) Wait another 10 months for my 48 month vet respec, b) Wait for a possible freespec with the next issue or c) spend the price of a pint and a half of beer (which I wouldn't drink anyway) to get one. So with that in mind I can't see any problem with this!

[/ QUOTE ]i guess u missed most of the other post by player on the Us forum they didn't seem too happy about it either, but i don't care it not effect my game play


 

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Just an interesting note from Posi that I've just come across that may allay some concerns that may be brewing...

[ QUOTE ]

Just a quick follow up:

We have no plans of getting rid of freespecs. Each Issue that brings with it major power changes (which is pretty much every single one, eh?) will bring a freespec with it.

We have no plans of getting rid of the respec trials.

We have no plans of getting rid of the dropped Respec Recipes.

We have no plans of getting rid of the Veteran Respecs that your account earns.

This is simply another way to get a Respec onto your character.

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Source

And personally I think this is a good thing. For example, my main has done, and used, all three Respec Trials, has used all my vet Respecs and I hate farming (Doing it that is... I have no objection whatsoever to farmers) so I don't have wads of Inf lying around and if I did I'd spend it on things I need more anyway.

If I need another respec I either need to a) Wait another 10 months for my 48 month vet respec, b) Wait for a possible freespec with the next issue or c) spend the price of a pint and a half of beer (which I wouldn't drink anyway) to get one. So with that in mind I can't see any problem with this!

[/ QUOTE ]i guess u missed most of the other post by player on the Us forum they didn't seem too happy about it either, but i don't care it not effect my game play

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I didn't miss the other posts, but their opinion isn't my opinion. I was just stating my opinion.

Edit: Just to clarify so my post can't be misread... I think this is a good thing!


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Just an interesting note from Posi that I've just come across that may allay some concerns that may be brewing...

[ QUOTE ]

Just a quick follow up:

We have no plans of getting rid of freespecs. Each Issue that brings with it major power changes (which is pretty much every single one, eh?) will bring a freespec with it.

We have no plans of getting rid of the respec trials.

We have no plans of getting rid of the dropped Respec Recipes.

We have no plans of getting rid of the Veteran Respecs that your account earns.

This is simply another way to get a Respec onto your character.

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Source

And personally I think this is a good thing. For example, my main has done, and used, all three Respec Trials, has used all my vet Respecs and I hate farming (Doing it that is... I have no objection whatsoever to farmers) so I don't have wads of Inf lying around and if I did I'd spend it on things I need more anyway.

If I need another respec I either need to a) Wait another 10 months for my 48 month vet respec, b) Wait for a possible freespec with the next issue or c) spend the price of a pint and a half of beer (which I wouldn't drink anyway) to get one. So with that in mind I can't see any problem with this!

[/ QUOTE ]i guess u missed most of the other post by player on the Us forum they didn't seem too happy about it either, but i don't care it not effect my game play

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Hardly "most" - at the moment the thread's 12 pages long and I'd estimate there are fewer than 10 "don't like" posts on there (made by a slightly smaller number of posters).

Most of the rest are in favour, with a noticeable minority that don't comment on the respecs themselves but do mock the dislikers a bit.


 

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So, how, exactly, does making it easier to respec hurt the game at all, again?


 

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Um, you want me to give you a potted summary of views I don't agree with?

It's all up there ^^^ [waves arm vaguely at earlier parts of thread] somewhere.


 

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So, how, exactly, does making it easier to respec hurt the game at all, again?

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It doesn't at all my issue is the money factor being involved if you want people to be able to respac more just drop them more frequently the WW market will crash and everyone will be happy.


 

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The front page announcement says (with my emphasis):
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Once a player purchases a Respec they must then visit a Respec Contact in-game to use it, in the same manner as the in-game obtainable respecs are done. The Respec Contacts include: Jack Wolf in Galaxy City and Arbiter Lupin in Nerva.


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Am I missing something?

The respec contacts include Wolfe* & Lupin? Include?

I thought that they are the only two contacts for using non-freespec respecs. Is this just odd (or future-proof) phrasing or is it maybe because additional respec contacts are already planned to be introduced?







* btw GR - The front page says the CoH contact is Jack Wolf.. pretty darn sure that it's Jack Wolfe (with a trailing 'E').


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if anything, they sell something to change a bit of power, then they should also sell reset times.
then anyone that buy's a reset can change there power sets, easy for when you made a character and it turns out that set doesn't fit.(and no one wants to re-roll a lvl 30 or up)


 

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if anything, they sell something to change a bit of power, then they should also sell reset times.
then anyone that buy's a reset can change there power sets, easy for when you made a character and it turns out that set doesn't fit.(and no one wants to re-roll a lvl 30 or up)

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Wouldn't you notice that a set doesn't fit earlier?

I am against that by the way...many chances are that it could be the same as with people who buy a max level character but have no idea how to play it.

And I really can't find anything negative about being able to buy a respec...the only thing it changes are the players powers...


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So, how, exactly, does making it easier to respec hurt the game at all, again?

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It doesn't at all my issue is the money factor being involved if you want people to be able to respac more just drop them more frequently the WW market will crash and everyone will be happy.

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Yes, they could indeed increase the ratio of drops.... but eventually you will end up flooding the market and therefore make it cheaper to BUY the respec (with ingame inf) then it would be to run the respec trials....

And dont forget that a respec also normally carries an addition charge due to having to buy up (some) new enhancements as well.... hell right now i would love it if i could convert some of the recepies i have into different types just to save a few inf here and there


 

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This is the kind of Microtransaction I agree with, unlike Exteel's where getting Credit is quite hard work, you need to repair your mechanaught by paying with credit or purchasing NC coins, and paint schemes run out after 30 days requiring you to buy more, thus spending credit.

Respec for that price is fine, I plan all my builds, have freespecs, so won't use it. For those who do want to spend the money, they can.

I doubt they'll force us to pay for them, nor will the button glitter and sparkle to draw you in and force you to pay. It'd be real funky if it could do that though.


 

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This is the kind of Microtransaction I agree with, unlike Exteel's where getting Credit is quite hard work, you need to repair your mechanaught by paying with credit or purchasing NC coins, and paint schemes run out after 30 days requiring you to buy more, thus spending credit.

Respec for that price is fine, I plan all my builds, have freespecs, so won't use it. For those who do want to spend the money, they can.

I doubt they'll force us to pay for them, nor will the button glitter and sparkle to draw you in and force you to pay. It'd be real funky if it could do that though.

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/signed for the sparkley buttons.... which then transferred all the money my way


 

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yea i agree, this for a respec, and they aren't removing the ways we can respec, this is just something additional if we used all ingame respecs and can't afford the inf to buy the recepie.

Like some said here, as long they don't make something we'd require cost money i'm fine with it. Personally i wanna see more costume packs like the wedding one. Themed ones, like a Robot one, feline one, etc.


 

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This is nothing less than adding choice. I fail to see how anyone can get angry about it. Absolutely nothing has been taken away, but a new choice has been added.

It's good for you, it's good for NCSoft....where's the problem?


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Hmm, I plan all my builds using Mid's planner so I've done a lot of tinkering before I start adding powers. Even then I still make the odd mistake when levelling or the planned build doesn't quite work out as well as it looks on paper.

However, with 3 vet respecs avaialable, plus the 3 trial ones and the odd freespec, I doubt I would ever need to buy one. And if I did, I am hoping that this option means there will be less demand for the ones in WW so the inf price will come down. I can only win!


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It's a bit expensive for what it is, but I see nothing wrong with it being in the store and some may buy it. It's not like it's saying buy me, buy me. Whenever I see a break glass to set off a fire alarm I feel an urge to do it, but I never do.

I won't use the option as I have respecs from veterans and trials and as long as respec recipes are available I could probably get one. I earned about 7 million inf in under an hour exemplared with a 50 on one occasion. The 5.99 respec is approx 2/3rds of a monthly subscription so about 20 days and if I had 2 hours a day exemplared with a 50 doing the same amount of missions I could probably get more than a handful at extortionate prices.

I hope they add more stuff to the store, but maybe something more collectable for our characters. I don't think adding the respec option was too hard or expensive to set up so they haven't lost anything by adding it, we haven't either. Those that can afford to, and do pay for one, probably need it more than I ever will and will be thankful that it's there I guess.


 

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Just an interesting note from Posi that I've just come across that may allay some concerns that may be brewing...

[ QUOTE ]

Just a quick follow up:

We have no plans of getting rid of freespecs. Each Issue that brings with it major power changes (which is pretty much every single one, eh?) will bring a freespec with it.

We have no plans of getting rid of the respec trials.

We have no plans of getting rid of the dropped Respec Recipes.

We have no plans of getting rid of the Veteran Respecs that your account earns.

This is simply another way to get a Respec onto your character.

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Source

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Just quoting this to get it in the digest...


 

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I'd have thought £2.99 would be a more appropriate price though, really... £5.99 is a bit steep. Not that I'll ever use it. My chars have respecs coming out the wazoo!


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I'd have thought £2.99 would be a more appropriate price though, really... £5.99 is a bit steep. Not that I'll ever use it. My chars have respecs coming out the wazoo!

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Out the wazoo?
goodnees dear, might wanna get that looked at!
Mine comes from vet badges!


 

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Goddammit NC. If you want the contents of my bank account, just come out and ask.

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I'd say that is exactly what any given company wants no matter what they about life styles, comfort or quality. Yo money. That's it and they're willing to do allmost anything to get it. Don't fool yourself thinking anything but that. And with that said... go for it. I don't mind this kind of options at all. It would have been much worse if you could could buy extra powers or similar stuff that made a difference ingame.