*sigh happily*
I just KNEW there'd be a Monty Python sketch eventually... 
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Oh no you didn't!
*whistles*
Always look on the bright side of life...
*whistles some more*
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*whistles*
Always look on the bright side of life...
*whistles some more*
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Always look on the light side of.....
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
NOBODY 'RESPECS' THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
Credit goes to FrankyT49 for animated avatar
List of toons on Union Handbook
Leon Tasker: "Dunelm Group! What is your profession?"
Dunelm Group: "OOOOORRRAAAAH!"
*groan* I should ban you for that! 
Respec'
This is an ex-thread.
It's dead.
It 'as kicked the bucket.
It 'as gone to meet its maker.
...
And now for something completely different.
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Wet haddock spotted rampaging though this thread, in women's clothes.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise ; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
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I'd have thought £2.99 would be a more appropriate price though, really... £5.99 is a bit steep. Not that I'll ever use it. My chars have respecs coming out the wazoo!
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Like many before me I too have plenty of vet and free respecs, so the £5.99 respec will not be used, but it sounds like a good option for anyone that is willing to pay this amount for an instant respec.
However, paying for a cash respec seems strange to me, when you could play 1-2 hours on a lvl 50 character and receive 20m+ (from selling recipes etc). Then transfer the inf to the character that needs the respec, and buy the recipe from the AH/BM.
Alternatively, you could download the test server, and try out various different powers etc before going live, or use mids designer.
Main 50 & Badger Nine Claws Claws/Regen/Body
Other 50's Ph10x Brute Unjust Law Tanker Samantha Urai Scrapper Codename 1250 Scrapper
Cepheus Defender Nilus Scrapper Electro Field Blaster S.PONGE Tanker
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*groan* I should ban you for that!
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By the power of the moderator! You have the POWER!
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*groan* I should ban you for that!
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Let's be fair, the ball was 1 feet away from the goal while the keeper made himself look like a goon, coliding with 2 of his defenders.
It was waiting to be kicked........
.......no?.......
....is that my coat behind you then? 
Credit goes to FrankyT49 for animated avatar
List of toons on Union Handbook
Leon Tasker: "Dunelm Group! What is your profession?"
Dunelm Group: "OOOOORRRAAAAH!"
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This is nothing less than adding choice. I fail to see how anyone can get angry about it. Absolutely nothing has been taken away, but a new choice has been added.
It's good for you, it's good for NCSoft....where's the problem?
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This. It's amazing the number of people who are whining about good stuff
Thelonious Monk
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It's like a dry haddock, only, you know...
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Aaaah okay...
Now... whats a dry Haddock?
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This is a Haddock
Sometimes it's wet, sometimes it's dry but it's always aptly alliterative
Thelonious Monk
Don't know if I can succsefully describe this to you but here goes. The In game and Real world economic systems are two separate enities, now NC's new move allows those entitis too at least touch perhaps even interact to me an undesirable thing. This is the basis of my objection.
Please elaborate, how does being able to buy a respec for one character make RL and In-Game economies interact. You can't seel the respec so the only effect I see is that there MAY be less respec recipes bought on the BM.
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Don't know if I can succsefully describe this to you but here goes. The In game and Real world economic systems are two separate enities, now NC's new move allows those entitis too at least touch perhaps even interact to me an undesirable thing. This is the basis of my objection.
[/ QUOTE ]Being able to pay for character transfers and thus being able to move influence and loot from one server to another without incurring the penalties that doing so through the AH would cause has far more significant effects on the economy than being able to buy respecs.
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Don't know if I can succsefully describe this to you but here goes. The In game and Real world economic systems are two separate enities, now NC's new move allows those entitis too at least touch perhaps even interact to me an undesirable thing. This is the basis of my objection.
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Rather NC than RMT's
To echo Khorak - this is extra choice. Don't like it? Don't use it. Just like Inventions, PvP, farming, PLing, server transfers, different ATs, different powersets, character renames, respecs, badge hunting...
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
From my POV
1. Paying your £ to save 20 mill inf is an influence.
2. 2 people run a respec trial one pays for his respec the other doesn't, the person who paid has 'gained' a recipe over his mate by paying.
3. I can't descibe to you as I would consider it an exploit, though I have informed GR of my concerns.
yes, I understand those are your concerns, but they aren't valid, during normal play some one will get a purple drop and others won't, nothing in the game is guaranteed, and and respecs can still be got for free.
He is, basically, correct though. It allows you to purchase an in-game effect that costs several million Inf for real world cash.
The issue is more whether that is a significant effect and whether it indicates a trend. It's only worrying if that's the case and there's no evidence that it is.
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I completly disagree with him.
I have 4 vet specs i can use... Does that mean i'm using my lobgevity to save me 80 mil inf per char?
Secondly, don't forget that the rare recepies you get from trials aren't from the same pool as from a TF, they won't be as good. And i'm sure the person who decided to buy respec and picked the recepie, is very satisified with his PAcing of the Turtle Recepie while the other guy got a free respec. Cause here's a hint for you, recepie rewards are random, he can get one worth 10 inf and can get one worth 10mil inf. Now if the person wants to decide if 5.99 is worth the time of a trial for chance of a good recepie or a guaranteed respec, it's up to them. And won't reflect on game economy at all.
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I have 4 vet specs i can use... Does that mean i'm using my lobgevity to save me 80 mil inf per char?
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If you have now trial respecs available then frankly yes, hence it's known as a reward cos you gain some benefit from it. Just my take on it though don't take it personally.
And please bear in mind that I am also arguing my point on the basis of something that I cannot fully explain to you as I'm pretty sure discussing a potential exploit would not put me in NC's good books.
yes but it doesn't happen that way, vet respecs, free respecs, have been around for a while now, and it causes no skew in the community, just like AH bought Respecs don't, money is not effect in CoH, is mostly irrelevant.
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I have 4 vet specs i can use... Does that mean i'm using my lobgevity to save me 80 mil inf per char?
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Well, I'm in a similar situation and I'll likely never have to pay 5.99 for a respec, so I guess the answer is, yes. However it isn't an additional payment made on top of your normal subs.
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Secondly, don't forget that the rare recepies you get from trials aren't from the same pool as from a TF, they won't be as good. And i'm sure the person who decided to buy respec and picked the recepie, is very satisified with his PAcing of the Turtle Recepie while the other guy got a free respec. Cause here's a hint for you, recepie rewards are random, he can get one worth 10 inf and can get one worth 10mil inf.
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I have no idea what the above has to do with anything, but 'here's a hint', I've been playing this long enough to know that drops are random. 
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Now if the person wants to decide if 5.99 is worth the time of a trial for chance of a good recepie or a guaranteed respec, it's up to them.
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Yes, it is their choice. I am not denying this, nor am I saying that it's a bad thing. It is also a choice to spend time in game, making Inf or doing a respec trial, or to spend time out of game making real money.
The mistake you seem to be making is to associate personal choice over whether someone buys a respec with money or Inf, and economic effect. Anything which changes the way or amount of Inf spent in the game affects the in-game economy. In this case, instead of spending Inf on a respec recipe, that Inf can be spent on enhancements. You don't have to be able to sell the respec (and so change real money into Inf), you have extra Inf because you did not spend a rather large bucket of Inf on a respec recipe.
Does it affect the economy in a significant way? In my opinion, no. Presumably that's also NCSoft's opinion.
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So..... this makes respec recipes cheaper? OH NOES! THE MARKET WILL FAIL!!!!
*sigh*
@Jay Leon Hart
Kerensky: this has nothing to do with underwear
Zwillinger: I put on my robe and wizard hat...
Synapse: I had to resist starting my last post off with "Yo dawg!"
No, the market won't fail. The market has way more in it than respec recipies, last I looked.
Did I say the market would fail? No.
*sigh*
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I don't know...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr rrrrggghh...
And, all silliness aside...
What is your quest?
No, wait, wrong script.
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.