Just curious Devs...

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Can you get purps with merits? If so, then yes.

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If you could get purps with merits the prices on everything else would go even further out of control.

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Can you get purps with merits? If so, then yes.

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If you could get purps with merits the prices on everything else would go even further out of control.

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Not necessarily. It could be something like 500 Merits a random Purple roll and 1000 merits a specific purple.

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Can you get purps with merits? If so, then yes.

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If you could get purps with merits the prices on everything else would go even further out of control.

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Not necessarily. It could be something like 500 Merits a random Purple roll and 1000 merits a specific purple.

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even so,.,at least a few people would be even less likely to generate random recipes if they could generate random purples

There are people out there going "240 merits for a LoTG! That's outrageous! And I bought five!"

So 1000 merits for a purple would be the same, but destroying four times as many recipes.

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I currently have 3 bids outstanding for an Armageddon triple and 2 Apocalypse triples. Each bid is for slightly over 100mil, and have been sitting for a month. I WANT those recipes, but considering the amount of work it takes me to make 100mil, I believe they are not worth more than that. Yet people are paying 200-500mil redside for these. I guess they want it more NAO than I do, and have more spare time to make that inf.

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Or they are extremely efficient. Back when I played the markets (almost a year ago now), flipping enhancements and salvage (and occasionally doing the buy-craft-sell circuit), I could make 100 to 200 million a week (spread among 7 characters), for 20-35 minutes per day of actual time invested.

Likewise, I know some people (TopDoc, namely) that can make 30+ million an hour from farming. 1 hour a day would make them around a billion a month. Of course, most of TopDoc's income came/comes from selling the purple fruits of his farming.

Which begs the question: Why are more people not farming purples? The money is obviously there, and I am sure plenty of people are willing (just look at the massive AE farming that brought down the prices of -KB IO's and rare salvage). Is it the barriers to entry? Since people can not easily customize what mobs to farm, need "padders"/"fillers" to spawn for large groups, and need a level 50 character built for quick/massive AoE and survival. Is it the lack of knowledge? How to farm, what maps and enemy types produce well, what builds are good for farming, and/or how to reset missions for repeat use. Or is it something more fundamental? Boredom, stigma, fear, whatever.

With enough farming, supply will rise to where the farmer's start undercutting each other's prices, in order to get the next sale. The price will drop until the demand overlaps supply again, creating a new equilibrium. Until then, or until the Dev's change the drop rate or eligibility requirements, prices will stay high and probably even go higher.

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Prices shot up to double (or more) of what they were long before AE, at around the time of merits, actually. Though AE seems to have doubled it again.

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When they announced that Purples would not be available via Merits, I knew prices would hike, and bought enough to outfit 3-5 characters. By time AE came around, I was not paying much attention to the game, or I would have bought more again.

Merits effectively put price caps on recipes, though only the most expensive would likely hit it (LotG +recharge, Numina +rec/+regen, Miracle +rec, etc) and I figured they would actually drop a bit in price. I also figured the middle class stuff (5m-20m) would increase in price, due to people buying the high end stuff straight up, instead of random rolling. I lost most interest in the Market's shortly thereafter, and did not check to see whether or by how much that actually happened.

Purples however, were not subject to the inf/merit ratio, and thus their prices would (and did) float independently of the Pool C/D prices.

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Lacrymosa: I've only encountered you in this thread.

You've made offers to physically meet and intimidate people.

You've decided that people who disagree with you are living in their parents basement.

You've decided that defending an imaginary market is less valuable than attacking it.

You've accused people of being childish.

You've blamed the school system for... something.

In fact, you've done just about everything except discuss the substance of any of the counterarguments people have offered.

I wasn't actually going to put you on /ignore ... and then I specifically read every post you made in this thread, one after the other.

If I'm talking about economics, and you're talking about my living arrangements, my flawed character, and my various sins ... that's not actually a dialogue.

Why should I listen to you if you're not listening to me?

[/ QUOTE ] People like that should be listened to only for amusement.

The personal attacks have continued, so I have PMed a moderator and asked for this thread to be locked

Do you want a cookie?

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Do you want a cookie?

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Is that an open offer? because I want one

Sure is. It's in the mail.

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Sure is. It's in the mail.

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I only want one if it's shaped like a heart. That way this thread gets more love in it ...

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The personal attacks have continued, so I have PMed a moderator and asked for this thread to be locked

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Seriously, if you honestly feel that's appropriate, I don't have a problem with it. It's a judgment call. But telling everyone about it is really childish.

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Also Smurphy, find out how much inf it would cost to get your name on the blimp. I would gladly donate 2bil

Throws a Fireball at CoT......

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So after issue 16 hits, supply goes up, purple prices go down. Won't the marketeers just buy low and hold them untill prices go back up, then sell?

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No, we'll be too busy making bank on all the stuff that is spiking because the farmers are leaving MA.

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High level rares and low level pool A's?

The Nethergoat kisses were the best part.

*muses possibility of selling vids of hot goat on goat action*

I think my eyes just fell out of my head in fear.

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The Nethergoat kisses were the best part.

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Do...not...want...to hear Nethergoat Kisses playing on the radio.

Just to be contrary:

Marketeers DO raise prices.

What? Didn't people who know what they are talking about, including Smurphy, make a very good case that they do not, and back it up well?

Yes, it's true that marketeers do not, overall, raise the equilibrium price. They may even make it more reasonable by reducing inflation through market fees.

However, marketeers make drops in prices less extreme by buying low priced supply. A patient buyer has to compete with marketeers for chances to take advantage.

Why won't this thread die?????