AE HAS RUIN THE GAMEPLAY OF CoH/CoV!

Lexx76 · 07-01-2009 01:29 PM

Two things about this thread.

1. Is this still going on? this isn't relevant to this sub forum, and there are like 80 of these posts on all the boards. Can't we lock this and maybe make an "AE is teh sux00rz" thread? Much like the farming thread? You know, a place to ignore the vocal minority?

2. I am encouraged because there are a lot of well reasoned posts here that seem to be on the side of "AE is fine. L2P" or even, "AE is not perfect, Devs will tweak it some more."

Let's all go play COX!

JohnX · 07-01-2009 02:09 PM

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My problem is the new people who just play AE without doing all the other content in the game. The contacts,SF,paper missions, street sweeping, etc etc.

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This. However, the "good" news about these types of complaints, is that it means that we're getting alot of new players.

Chill_Out · 07-01-2009 02:55 PM

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My problem is the new people who just play AE without doing all the other content in the game. The contacts,SF,paper missions, street sweeping, etc etc.

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This. However, the "good" news about these types of complaints, is that it means that we're getting alot of new players.

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With purely ancedotal evidence, I have to agree, I'm seeing bucketloads of new players. It is amazing what putting a box on store shelves and a bit of advertising dollars will do. Imagine if PlayNC actually put more effort into sales/marketing?

Captain_Freak · 07-01-2009 04:03 PM

l2p. learn to use the search function correctly. I know its hard....you actually have to open a window make a few selections and hit search....but you can do it i have faith in you

AE didnt ruin the game, but complainers like the OP sure ruin the forums.

MoldyLunchboxx · 07-01-2009 04:12 PM

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I don't have a problem with AE. I haven't done a AE missions in weeks, but I always get tells for them.

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Really? I don't get /tells. I get a ton of [censored] blind invites to teams of levels 7s - 20s when I try to do my own thing.

This is why I agree with the OP in how AE has ruined the game. People really don't know HOW to play other then AE. Actually that isn't true. There are still a handful of REALLY GREAT PLAYERS. But we are being invaded by those who don't know [censored] about the game and get to 50 still not knowing [censored]. Like Blind invites? I figured that out fast and that was BEFORE the search commenting was added. Farms? Yea, I remember when you'd get whored on for asking for a PL in Peregrine Island when Herding didn't have an agro-cap.

New players don't NEED these factors to learn how to play, but they NEED something in it's place. Consistent blind invites without reading search comments *AND* teams that Never never never... THEY NEVER leave the AE building. And they don't do new farms, they do the same one, over and over.

I'd like to have a variety of missions to play from and we do. I would also like to not be able to do the same mission with teams over.. and over.. and over..

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EDIT:: And to add again from my previous post, I DO UNDERSTAND I DON'T HAVE TO TEAM WITH THEM... You (the readers) must understand though, that once I leave them and join any other different random AE team it is the same [censored] farm mission...

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MoldyLunchboxx · 07-01-2009 04:20 PM

Fixed. lol

Dersk · 07-01-2009 04:20 PM

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And they don't do new farms, they do the same one, over and over.

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And it's so much worse than drek farms...

bricktop · 07-01-2009 04:32 PM

You should start a SG called "AE haters!" and spam the boards for members. That should easily be a huge super group if the forums are any indication. You'll have plenty of people to team with then.

Chill_Out · 07-01-2009 05:58 PM

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You should start a SG called "AE haters!" and spam the boards for members. That should easily be a huge super group if the forums are any indication. You'll have plenty of people to team with then.

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I would so join this. But only if they had peanut butter cookies. Warm from the oven.

Mngwa · 07-01-2009 06:50 PM

Aw sweet!

I'd join the SG just for the cookies

Kelenar · 07-02-2009 06:12 AM

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I find it a little hard to tell what TFs are available at what level and where, and what to do in them.

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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Task_Forces
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Strike_Force

Unfortunately, some of this stuff really can't be learned too easily within the game itself (which I consider a pretty big problem, but whatever). Fortunately, most anything you need to know is on ParagonWiki... and the bits that aren't can usually be asked on the forums.

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G_Tanker · 07-02-2009 06:34 AM

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We need to start spreading the word that AE farms are NOT the best way to level by any means, but are in fact a difficult, boring exercise in frustration that involve much more debt than XP.

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Hmm. I took a new scrapper from 1-50 between Saturday night and Weds afternoon, and I worked Mon-Wed. I led AE pugs for the majority of that (I joined one or two pugs when I had work to do IRL and didn't want the stress of managing people), so it was far from the most efficient (or stress-free, *ugh* pug players, I do not have unlimited energy and focus to the point where I can lead, teach, pull and tank simultaneously!) way to get it done. For efficiency, with teamwork and 2-3 friends, you can produce a new 50 in a day or two thanks to the AE (definitely under 24 hours of play, from what I've seen).

Anyhoo. I personally think it is quite out of whack that this is available, but it lets me try new concepts faster, so I'll use it till they nerf it. I like what it's done to the economy - casual players will find their random salvage sells for much more than it used to at times ("lolwhut destiny sold for 150K?!") due to the greater consumption of salvage combined with little to non produced by AE-players (there ARE salvage buys and rolls, but they're not used to such an extent that it makes up for the gap, in my subjective observation). So, I like what AE has done to the casual player's wallet; Getting SO's as you level up now should be trivial. I have serious concerns about where the economy is heading (with no economic background, mind you, so again they're subjective) - players can now generate INF faster than ever and all that the game subtracts from the INF pool is the cost of combining a recipe and the fee at BM/WW. Mudflation mudflation mudflation!

I agree that it's dumbing down the player population even further than it already was, but this is a "for fun" game, hardly a competitive MMO.

Shajde · 07-02-2009 10:41 AM

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I find it a little hard to tell what TFs are available at what level and where, and what to do in them.

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http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Task_Forces
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Strike_Force

Unfortunately, some of this stuff really can't be learned too easily within the game itself (which I consider a pretty big problem, but whatever). Fortunately, most anything you need to know is on ParagonWiki... and the bits that aren't can usually be asked on the forums.

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Hey, thanks. ^.^ I've been checking out that wiki for information on various things, but hadn't looked up a straight list of missions. Neat.

magikwand · 07-02-2009 12:08 PM

I am still enjoying the Doom in these threads. Get over AE and find other ways to create teams.

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LordXenite · 07-02-2009 12:17 PM

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I am still enjoying the Doom in these threads. Get over AE and find other ways to create DOOM.

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Fixt... (sorry, couldn't resist! )

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Jibikao · 07-02-2009 01:27 PM

There are two folds in AE's success. One is it gives people more reasons to play the game. I know some of my friends like AE because they can find a team so easily now! They just log on and go to Cap and can get on a team within 5-10mins. Unlike before, I've seen people advertising LFT for an hour in Grandville.

A lot of people play online games to TEAM, not to Solo. They like the interaction. In this respect, I think AE is good for the game.

The bad side is less people are doing story content and people are still leveling too fast.

One of my friends think leveling fast means she'll need to purchase extra slots. Hey, business is business!

What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

Darth_Khasei · 07-02-2009 01:46 PM

Leveling too fast for who? I mean if you are feeling you are leveling too fast you could always turn off xp so that you only level at a pace that is slower and more to your liking.

If this is about "other" people leveling too fast, that is none of any players business and only the devs have the final word on what leveling too fast actually is for all players.

They don't seem to have a problem with leveling speed of players as long as outliers are not being used. XP smoothing and patrol xp encouraged faster leveling, so that horse left the barn in the distant past.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

_dEOS_ · 07-03-2009 05:47 AM

There should be a balancing factor between mission XP rewards and AE XP rewards.

If too many people AE farm then the weight increases on mission XP rewards. Ideally, the amount of XP gained on a given day through AE or missions should be the same.

That's just an idea.

Darth_Khasei · 07-03-2009 07:02 PM

There is a balancing factor they are called devs with datamining information, all this other stuff is a bunch of human faults in all their wonderful glory at work.

The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.

Nethergoat · 07-04-2009 10:58 AM

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Ever sence AE has come out, no one does regular missions, or TFs/SFs anymore, can't even get a team to do the new TF/SF that came out today!!

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Your personal failures are not the fault of AE.

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joshdex · 07-06-2009 01:15 PM

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Being as stating something along the lines of obvious troll is obvious is deemed unconstructive. I will most definitely not say that.

Can you guess what I am thinking though ?

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Tacos?

Too much thinking of food in these threads - sharker brings popcorn, mingwa brings snickerdoodles.

MA is ruining my DIET! (At least I think that might make as much sense as the OP )

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Oh! I bet, going by the name. he's thinking of catnip!

Or Catwhoorg snacks!

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hedgehog_NA · 07-08-2009 07:01 AM

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Do we need yet another one of these type of threads? Really?

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Read it for the children.

every time some one makes one of these threads a corruptor gets his wings.....And then the huge flyswatter smacks them down,

Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
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G_Tanker · 07-08-2009 07:03 AM

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There are two folds in AE's success. One is it gives people more reasons to play the game. I know some of my friends like AE because they can find a team so easily now! They just log on and go to Cap and can get on a team within 5-10mins. Unlike before, I've seen people advertising LFT for an hour in Grandville.

A lot of people play online games to TEAM, not to Solo. They like the interaction. In this respect, I think AE is good for the game.

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QFT x1000. I really like that it's easier to find teams and that I don't have to worry about the levels with auto-leveling missions.

hedgehog_NA · 07-08-2009 07:04 AM

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whenever I try to do TFs allI get are "sorry doing AE".... then when I can't get like lets say a brute on the team... people get pissed off and leave the TF/SF and we can't do it, just becuase people don't wana get off their butts and do something other than AE...

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stop trying to tell other people how to play!! sorry YOU can't find a team, but it doesn't mean that the game is dooooomed, it means you aren't happy, and honestly, i'm so sick of these threads that i hope it makes you leave.

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What? What do you mean that this thing could stop 14 elephants? You say that like it's a bad thing! This'll barely get him tipsy!

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Ill take one of those if you've got extra...will it make you have the munchies?

Lots of 50's yada yada. still finding fun things to do.
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Cavatina · 07-08-2009 10:27 AM

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Do we need yet another one of these type of threads? Really?

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Read it for the children.

every time some one makes one of these threads a corruptor gets his wings.....And then the huge flyswatter smacks them down,

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so thats at least 3 new corruptors wings today as the AE forum is flooded with topics on this again. -_-

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