Powerset Proliferation FAQ


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Um... normally I am not the first guy to call doooom, but why not just give them an I win button...

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They did give them an I Win button. It's called Mental Manipulation.


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OK, normally I'm pretty laid back and willing to cut the devs some slack, but in all honesty I think you're out of your minds here. Psy Shockwave? On a Blaster? Especially when combined with an AoE toggle confuse so that critters don't even fight back while you simply melt them?

I'll wait and see as this goes to beta, but I can't possibly see this ending up anywhere vaguely resembling balanced

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Me too. But i was thinking, what's the second set gonna look like??


 

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Okay so I'm rerolling 'Rolling Nuke' from a fire/fire blaster to a fire/psi blaster. Fire Manip was sucky enough as it was, but now psi does everything fire does, only better All I'll need is someone to give me clear mind and I'll be tankin spawns with my fire/psi


 

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Im trying to wrap my brain around a Toggle based confuse power.

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Arctic Air


Gothika (Grav/Kin) Marionette (Ill/Rad) Terra Firma (Earth/Storm) Alana Dale (Arch/Nrg)
Iceblink (Ice/Dark) Fantasia (Mind/Fire) Shadow Minx (Claws/Nin)
--Virtue

 

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Im trying to wrap my brain around a Toggle based confuse power.

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Think Ice Control's Arctic Air, but replace the slow with dmg, and I think you'd be close.


Rule number six of an empathy defender is NEVER underestimate a blaster's ability to die. I don't care if he has CM, Fort, both RAs, bubbles (both FF and Sonic), and is fighting next to a Storm defender with hurricane on. If there is a way to die in that situation, the blaster will find it.

 

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Sure, his powers don't work the same as Empathy in City of Heroes, so perhaps Linderman is a better example.

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As far as I'm concerned this is pretty much a conceptual coffin nail in any argument that empaths aren't evil

Linderman is more or less a one man refutation of that whole position.

Sure call it something else... change absorb pain for another power, but basically... same set, just used for different goals.


The cake is a lie! The cake is a lie!

 

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That's what being a villain is all about. Using things that could be good, for evil. Not neccesarily using things that can only be evil for that purpose, but *choosing* to use things for evil.


 

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Sure, his powers don't work the same as Empathy in City of Heroes, so perhaps Linderman is a better example.

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As far as I'm concerned this is pretty much a conceptual coffin nail in any argument that empaths aren't evil

Linderman is more or less a one man refutation of that whole position.

Sure call it something else... change absorb pain for another power, but basically... same set, just used for different goals.

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He can heal people! Clearly he must be an Empath!


 

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Sure, his powers don't work the same as Empathy in City of Heroes, so perhaps Linderman is a better example.

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As far as I'm concerned this is pretty much a conceptual coffin nail in any argument that empaths aren't evil

Linderman is more or less a one man refutation of that whole position.

Sure call it something else... change absorb pain for another power, but basically... same set, just used for different goals.

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He can heal people! Clearly he must be an Empath!



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He doesn't set them on fire when he heals them, does he?

Does he shoot wind at them to heal them? Or call upon the darkness to heal?

Does he spew radiation in all directions when healing?

I CALL SHENANIGANS.


 

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Rolling a Sonic/Psi and saying lol to PvE the second I12 hits.

And people didnt think Psi would be overpowered in PvE...

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Yeah, I checked but Drain Bamage was already taken.

I figured it would be, but still...

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I've locked down Non Compus Mentis on my regular server......

This'll be my first Blaster, for sure.

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Err, it should Compos


 

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Drain psyche, psi shockwave, toggle confuse, all with the better hero epics.

hahahh oh yeah, the devs really play their own game.


 

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Wow.. I am so glad I left World of Warcraft to come back to this game just in time to see it ruined completely. After three years of nerfs, ED, and just plain lack of content, this is the proverbial straw for me.
Why don't you just remove CoV completely from the game devs and use what little effort you put into it to make Heroes even more stupidly over powered? Thumbs up. Good job.


 

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Frankly I'm disgusted by how Mental Manipulation looks.
And I'm sick of the bull that Stalkers have been dealing with.


 

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Sure, his powers don't work the same as Empathy in City of Heroes, so perhaps Linderman is a better example.

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As far as I'm concerned this is pretty much a conceptual coffin nail in any argument that empaths aren't evil

Linderman is more or less a one man refutation of that whole position.

Sure call it something else... change absorb pain for another power, but basically... same set, just used for different goals.

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He can heal people! Clearly he must be an Empath!



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He doesn't set them on fire when he heals them, does he?

Does he shoot wind at them to heal them? Or call upon the darkness to heal?

Does he spew radiation in all directions when healing?

I CALL SHENANIGANS.

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Or perhaps he's just using a powerset that doesn't even exist yet in CoX (or turned his particle effects way down)


 

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I'm guessing the numbers behind the Psi/Mind powers will be tweaked downward to balance this set.

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Fixed that for you.


 

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Wow.. I am so glad I left World of Warcraft to come back to this game just in time to see it ruined completely. After three years of nerfs, ED, and just plain lack of content, this is the proverbial straw for me.
Why don't you just remove CoV completely from the game devs and use what little effort you put into it to make Heroes even more stupidly over powered? Thumbs up. Good job.

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Can I have your stuff?


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Castle, you do realize that even with those powers nerfed into oblivion (i'm talking Psi Shockwave dealing 10 base damage even) /psi will be horribly overpowered, right?


 

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I'm guessing the numbers behind the Psi/Mind powers will be tweaked downward to balance this set.

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Fixed that for you.

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Well, that is good to hear I guess. But wow, that set looks sick. I'm going to have to give it a try.


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What...The...[censored] Where you guys thinking?!!!

Seriously!! This set is just WAY too good for Blasters. Drain Psyche, Build up, AND PSW?!!

Jeez...this is just crazy.

Still, I'm going to roll an AR/Men in the beta. It might be kind of fun. (It'll suck though! Lethal and Psi damage? My favorite farming group, Carnies, won't be as easy to farm anymore.)


 

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Rolling a Sonic/Psi and saying lol to PvE the second I12 hits.

And people didnt think Psi would be overpowered in PvE...

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Yeah, I checked but Drain Bamage was already taken.

I figured it would be, but still...

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I've locked down Non Compus Mentis on my regular server......

This'll be my first Blaster, for sure.

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Err, it should Compos

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To think I took 6 Years of Latin between 7th - 12th Grade.......

Oh Well.....


 

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I'm guessing the numbers behind the Psi/Mind powers will be tweaked downward to balance this set.

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Fixed that for you.

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So unless you are talking like less than defender level damage I just dont see how. Damage will suck so bad no one will want to play it anyways?


Bump and Grind Bane/SoA
Kenja No Ishi Earth/Empathy Controller
Legendary Sannin Ninja/Pain Mastermind
Entoxicated Ninja/PSN Mastermind
Ninja Ryukenden Kat/WP Scrapper
Hellish Thoughts Fire/PSI Dominator

Thank You Devs for Merits!!!!

 

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things like Kinetics for Masterminds would be extremely dangerous to port directly; many changes would need to be done to make that one work

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I still wants it though for a bots mm...


 

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Oops, I may have misread a quote:

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At the time, he wanted each AT to keep certain sets so they were only found on that AT-- Ninjitsu for Stalkers, Elec/Elec for Brutes, Ice/Ice for Tankers, etc. Ultimately, that concept was set aside later in the process, but some aspects of it remained in the initial pass of Proliferation.

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I thought it said it was set aside for later. If you've already set it aside completely, I apologize for my assumption that it was still under consideration.


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