Discussion: Issue 12: Midnight Hour Announced!
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AaronH,
Posted on: 2008-03-12 09:13 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Stupid newbie questions:
- Pre- existing lvl 50 villains are valid to unlock the new epic archetypes?
- Once unlocked, are they valid to all servers?
- If you delete your only lvl 50 villain (after unlocking it, that is), can you continue to play your newly created Blood Widow, and can you still create characters with the new archetypes?
- And what if you delete the old ones and the only lvl 50 left is one of the new archetypes? Is it valid?
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Educated guesses, based on the Hero Epic Archetypes:
Yes, existing lvl 50 villains are valid to unlock the new epic archetypes.
Yes, once unlocked, they are valid to all servers.
Yes, if you delete your only level 50 villain, you can continue to play your newly created Blood Widow, but you will not be able to make another until you get another level 50 villain.
Yes, if you delete the old ones and the only level 50 is one of the new Archetypes, it still allows you to create a new Epic Villain AT.
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As far as I know (I'm not about to delete my only 50 as he's still my main hero) but the account unlock of the EAT doesn't require you to keep at least one level 50 character. All getting to 50 does is unlock the AT in the character creation screens and is not required to be around to keep the new ATs unlocked. Think of it like making a recipe for a costume piece, you don't need to keep the recipe to have access ot the costume piece, it just sets a hidden flag on your char (or account in the case of the EATs) that says you can access the content. Keeping the item (the level 50 in the case of EATs) is not required to keep that flag.
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Stupid newbie questions:
- Pre- existing lvl 50 villains are valid to unlock the new epic archetypes?
- Once unlocked, are they valid to all servers?
- If you delete your only lvl 50 villain (after unlocking it, that is), can you continue to play your newly created Blood Widow, and can you still create characters with the new archetypes?
- And what if you delete the old ones and the only lvl 50 left is one of the new archetypes? Is it valid?
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Educated guesses, based on the Hero Epic Archetypes:
Yes, existing lvl 50 villains are valid to unlock the new epic archetypes.
Yes, once unlocked, they are valid to all servers.
Yes, if you delete your only level 50 villain, you can continue to play your newly created Blood Widow, but you will not be able to make another until you get another level 50 villain.
Yes, if you delete the old ones and the only level 50 is one of the new Archetypes, it still allows you to create a new Epic Villain AT.
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As far as I know (I'm not about to delete my only 50 as he's still my main hero) but the account unlock of the EAT doesn't require you to keep at least one level 50 character. All getting to 50 does is unlock the AT in the character creation screens and is not required to be around to keep the new ATs unlocked. Think of it like making a recipe for a costume piece, you don't need to keep the recipe to have access ot the costume piece, it just sets a hidden flag on your char (or account in the case of the EATs) that says you can access the content. Keeping the item (the level 50 in the case of EATs) is not required to keep that flag.
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This is incorrect. It has been tested and shown that deleting your only level 50 will RElock the epic ATs.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
BS Scrappers get the Gladius as a custom weapon at char creation. Maybe a Claws Scrapper can get a Cestus? That would be an interesting option.
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Stupid newbie questions:
- Pre- existing lvl 50 villains are valid to unlock the new epic archetypes?
- Once unlocked, are they valid to all servers?
- If you delete your only lvl 50 villain (after unlocking it, that is), can you continue to play your newly created Blood Widow, and can you still create characters with the new archetypes?
- And what if you delete the old ones and the only lvl 50 left is one of the new archetypes? Is it valid?
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Educated guesses, based on the Hero Epic Archetypes:
Yes, existing lvl 50 villains are valid to unlock the new epic archetypes.
Yes, once unlocked, they are valid to all servers.
Yes, if you delete your only level 50 villain, you can continue to play your newly created Blood Widow, but you will not be able to make another until you get another level 50 villain.
Yes, if you delete the old ones and the only level 50 is one of the new Archetypes, it still allows you to create a new Epic Villain AT.
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As far as I know (I'm not about to delete my only 50 as he's still my main hero) but the account unlock of the EAT doesn't require you to keep at least one level 50 character. All getting to 50 does is unlock the AT in the character creation screens and is not required to be around to keep the new ATs unlocked. Think of it like making a recipe for a costume piece, you don't need to keep the recipe to have access ot the costume piece, it just sets a hidden flag on your char (or account in the case of the EATs) that says you can access the content. Keeping the item (the level 50 in the case of EATs) is not required to keep that flag.
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This is incorrect. It has been tested and shown that deleting your only level 50 will RElock the epic ATs.
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hmm well that sucks and I suspect is a bug. Nowhere in the knowledge base or info about the EATs does it say that that is behavior. I could see many an upset player unlocking their EAT and deciding to reroll the same character as one of the EATs so deleting their 50 to start his 'new career' just to find out they can't get the EAT anymore and now no longer have the level 50.
I would like to see an update to the game engine myself. Even most of the oldest MMO's upgrade their engines, and are still around today.
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As far as I know (I'm not about to delete my only 50 as he's still my main hero) but the account unlock of the EAT doesn't require you to keep at least one level 50 character. All getting to 50 does is unlock the AT in the character creation screens and is not required to be around to keep the new ATs unlocked. Think of it like making a recipe for a costume piece, you don't need to keep the recipe to have access ot the costume piece, it just sets a hidden flag on your char (or account in the case of the EATs) that says you can access the content. Keeping the item (the level 50 in the case of EATs) is not required to keep that flag.
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This is incorrect. It has been tested and shown that deleting your only level 50 will RElock the epic ATs.
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hmm well that sucks and I suspect is a bug. Nowhere in the knowledge base or info about the EATs does it say that that is behavior. I could see many an upset player unlocking their EAT and deciding to reroll the same character as one of the EATs so deleting their 50 to start his 'new career' just to find out they can't get the EAT anymore and now no longer have the level 50.
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While it does suck, it is working as intended. This has been asked of the red names. Repeated player tests were done on the Test server.
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I would like to see an update to the game engine myself. Even most of the oldest MMO's upgrade their engines, and are still around today.
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Happy birthday.
An upgrade to the engine would be a major undertaking, and compared with the announced plans, far more than what we should expect with this issue (which does fall in line with the "minor upgrade" that was promised). The fact that they managed to get as much as they did with the people they had is pretty amazing. Now that they are getting into where they have more resources thanks to the NCsoft buyout, we should see some great things for Issues 13-14+.
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I was just thinking this myself.
well hell since I can't quote atm (not sure why). I will say that I was thinking of MM's getting 2 secondaries to make up for the no new primary.
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Name 1 comic book hero that operates with flunkies... Henchmen ...Goons ...Slaves ... or whatever you want to call them. Not other members of an elite force that he/she is leading through example. Those who obey out of fear, or because they are being paid, or they are being physically forced. Those whose lives exist only to serve a single mind... a MasterMind. Name me that hero, and ask your question again.
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Batman and whoever is doing his bidding this week.
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Or the former Batgirl, Barbara Gordon, every month in Birds of Prey.
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If only deleting the character showed them dying painfully, I'd delete characters all day! lol
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I just had to lol at that! haha 
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Woot! Score one for me.
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Wait. How exactly do we still have our powers in Ancient Rome? I thought that was way past our "tether" or something?
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The Carbon Teather is over 5700 years long. Roman was about 2000 years ago.
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Yes, but...I thought we couldn't go past Breakout (or Outbreak) because our powers were only level 1?
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What... you want continuity consistancy in a COMIC BOOK GAME??
...gotta stay true to the genre, bro!
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Yeah, I forgot about Mender Tesserect. I remembered that we exemplared when going into the alleged future, but I rationalized that as traveling through time itself causes the exemplaring, not the direction. Now I'm thoroughly confused. :P
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As far as I know (I'm not about to delete my only 50 as he's still my main hero) but the account unlock of the EAT doesn't require you to keep at least one level 50 character. All getting to 50 does is unlock the AT in the character creation screens and is not required to be around to keep the new ATs unlocked. Think of it like making a recipe for a costume piece, you don't need to keep the recipe to have access ot the costume piece, it just sets a hidden flag on your char (or account in the case of the EATs) that says you can access the content. Keeping the item (the level 50 in the case of EATs) is not required to keep that flag.
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This is incorrect. It has been tested and shown that deleting your only level 50 will RElock the epic ATs.
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hmm well that sucks and I suspect is a bug. Nowhere in the knowledge base or info about the EATs does it say that that is behavior. I could see many an upset player unlocking their EAT and deciding to reroll the same character as one of the EATs so deleting their 50 to start his 'new career' just to find out they can't get the EAT anymore and now no longer have the level 50.
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While it does suck, it is working as intended. This has been asked of the red names. Repeated player tests were done on the Test server.
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Just transfer the 50 to a server you don't use. ...right?
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Wait. How exactly do we still have our powers in Ancient Rome? I thought that was way past our "tether" or something?
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The Carbon Teather is over 5700 years long. Roman was about 2000 years ago.
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Yes, but...I thought we couldn't go past Breakout (or Outbreak) because our powers were only level 1?
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What... you want continuity consistancy in a COMIC BOOK GAME??
...gotta stay true to the genre, bro!
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Yeah, I forgot about Mender Tesserect. I remembered that we exemplared when going into the alleged future, but I rationalized that as traveling through time itself causes the exemplaring, not the direction. Now I'm thoroughly confused. :P
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You get exemplared by Flashback when the mobs in the mission are lower level than you.
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There's no RP explanation.
Mobs aren't higher level in the future or the past. Mobs are just sometimes lower level and sometimes higher level, depending on the mission. You get exemplared to match them. That's all.
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
Do we have any estimated ETA on I12 release yet??? I'd just like to know a date I need to have my villain to 50 by so I can start playing my VEAT hot off the press 
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Wait. How exactly do we still have our powers in Ancient Rome? I thought that was way past our "tether" or something?
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The Carbon Teather is over 5700 years long. Roman was about 2000 years ago.
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Yes, but...I thought we couldn't go past Breakout (or Outbreak) because our powers were only level 1?
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What... you want continuity consistancy in a COMIC BOOK GAME??
...gotta stay true to the genre, bro!
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Yeah, I forgot about Mender Tesserect. I remembered that we exemplared when going into the alleged future, but I rationalized that as traveling through time itself causes the exemplaring, not the direction. Now I'm thoroughly confused. :P
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You get exemplared by Flashback when the mobs in the mission are lower level than you.
That's it.
There's no RP explanation.
Mobs aren't higher level in the future or the past. Mobs are just sometimes lower level and sometimes higher level, depending on the mission. You get exemplared to match them. That's all.
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Ok, Captain Buzzkill.
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Do we have any estimated ETA on I12 release yet??? I'd just like to know a date I need to have my villain to 50 by so I can start playing my VEAT hot off the press
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nope. It has to go into closed testing first. You have at least a month or 2.
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I was just thinking this myself.
well hell since I can't quote atm (not sure why). I will say that I was thinking of MM's getting 2 secondaries to make up for the no new primary.
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Brutes got 2 primaries to make up for MMs not getting one. :P
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.
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a few questions here,
Purple IO sets, and IO's in general,
any chance of seeing more of these in issue 12?
Controller and Defender new Debuff/buff/ heal sets
is it safe to assume they will get different sets? one of the long standing issues between the two AT's is the large overlap in sets, controllers having a unique set( at least heroside), and defenders getting a 2nd one could help differentuate the two AT's
Any new trials, tfs, or sfs with the new zones?
Since the VEATs will be getting some unique costume pieces, will Kelds be getting that Sash NPC kelds all seem to have
Based on what little has been said, it sounds like the new content will be in shared pve zones, with seperate arcs for both sides and not co-op, which i am fine with
content wise the 35-50 new zone, when combined with the RWZ, would it be possible for redsiders to avoid Grandville for the most part, while focusing on contact missions
Will the midnight squad give out goodies in some form or fashion just like Vanguard?
Will their be any content or activities geared towards 50's?
Do I spy Statesman's mask and mantle in those Roman outfits? Or do my eyes deceive me?
You're right, Darth. That silver/grey looking mask does indeed look like States' signature mask!
Finally, a Plant Controller. I hope they give the Thorns Secondary, also.
For now, I only have 2 questions:
Can we have more post-50 slots?
What's in I13?
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I must say this issue looks quite impressive. It shall propably by my favorite since I-9 and the introduction of IO's and WW.
Only thing i don't like is the Psi blasters. I have always hated that idea (personal taste). I would love to see a Dark/ blaster though. And I could care less about the VEAT's. I can't get a villian past lvl 10 and feel that my sanity is still intact. I hate playing villian-side.
But over all it sounds very promising.
the New co-op zone sounds fantastic and the introduction of the midnight group sounds cool. The hollows make-over is definitly welcome, I've been looking forward to that for a long time. And the Power proliferation sounds DOWNRIGHT AWSOME! I am totally looking forward to this.
Masterminds I feel are Unique to Villains, period.
You want to play one, Go Red. You dont want to go Red? Then [censored]. Sorry, jus tired of folks whining for them to be Hero side, I dont play Red, cuz Its dirty or I like Heroes or whatever insert whine here comment.
Like to have some unique between the two sides. So either DEAL or stop running around crying like you got sand in your V....you know the rest.
As for giving Thorns as a secondary to a controller, wont happen, Why? Its a Assault Power, & Controllers secondaries are Buff/Debuff/Assist.
Silly People, new power fandangling starts happing, everyone like, OMG I WISH MY BLAH BLAH BLAH Had Every Power out there to pick from, WEEEEE.
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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!! I wanna be a Roman soldier! No, I wanna be a Night Widow! No wait... I wanna be a Fortunata!!! OMG!! I'm OVERWHELMED!
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A Roman Night Widow!!
Wavicle, Energy/Energy Blaster, dinged 50 in Issue 4, summer of 2005.
@Wavicle, mostly on the Justice server.