Was The Idea Dropped?


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Edit: Tyed minimum when I meant Maximum. One day, I'll learn to proofread.

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Just not today, it seems.


 

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In an upcoming patch, here are a few things you'll see:
Increased EDIT:Maximum ranges for attacks like Blaze.
Some improvements for */Fire (No, no powers were switched out. No Fiery Embrace, I'm afraid. )
Some improvements for Fire/*
A very minor improvement for Gadgets...I mean, Devices! (Yeah, it was a dumb mistake -- typing in haste and all of that.)

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Let Bitter Ice Blast be your guide in adjusting the high-damage attacks. Never made sense to me why BIB was so much longer than the other attacks in the first place.

I certainly will not complain about /Fire getting some love, although I'm honestly not sure what you could be doing for it if you're not swapping out any powers. Half the set is imported from Fiery Aura, so unless that set is also getting improvements (which would not be a bad thing) you'll have to make separate versions of all the powers for the blasters anyway.

A point of curiosity, Castle: how many blasters do take Blazing Aura, anyway? Would that many people be inconvenienced if it were gone?

Well, I guess we'll see. I'm keeping in mind that Cryptic's new policy is start small and increment, given the examples of Archery, Trick Arrows, and dominators. Hopefully they keep following these "small tweaks" with several more small tweaks as necessary, since I'm still of the mind that certain sets need some rather large tweaks.


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Lighthouse dosen't even know...

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Hell, he apparently didn't get the memo that Nov 11th stopped being about the end of WWI in, oh, 1954.

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It's still Armistice Day in many countries across Europe, it ceased being Armistice Day in The United States. That was his point, it means many, many different things to different people.


 

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5. Tweaking Autoturret in some way to make it useful or at least worth the time and endo it takes to set up


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Yeah, I agree. At least, make the duration long enough to make it worth using it.


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In an upcoming patch, here are a few things you'll see:
Increased EDIT:Maximum ranges for attacks like Blaze.
Some improvements for */Fire (No, no powers were switched out. No Fiery Embrace, I'm afraid. )
Some improvements for Fire/*
A very minor improvement for Gadgets...I mean, Devices! (Yeah, it was a dumb mistake -- typing in haste and all of that.)

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Let Bitter Ice Blast be your guide in adjusting the high-damage attacks. Never made sense to me why BIB was so much longer than the other attacks in the first place.

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What is Ice's exchange for not having a snipe then?

Disclaimer (since everything is apparently taken hostile in here): This is simply a question it is not given in anger or a "thats stupid and you suck!" tone.

And I still have no faith that anything will happen within the next 2 issues.


 

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Lighthouse dosen't even know...

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Hell, he apparently didn't get the memo that Nov 11th stopped being about the end of WWI in, oh, 1954.

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It's still Armistice Day in many countries across Europe...

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And seeing as these are not the European forums (and yes, I checked and did not find a similar warning on the Euro-boards) your point would be?


 

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Snipe's are highly overrated. On every Blaster of mine, I would trade a snipe for a BIB-like power. Every single time. Used to, Snipes were something. This was when they could take a minion out of a fight without wasting 6 seconds of Aim/BU time. Now, they're situational at best.


 

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Tons of people still play on the U.S. servers and haven't switched over when they became able to because of the friends they made.

Back on topic, I'm really glad to see you posted here _Castle_, and it's nice to get a response from a Dev. After several un-replied to PMs I was starting to wonder if anything was even planned on.

I'll remain optimistic til I see what the changes are, and we are at least getting something. Really curious what the change to the Fire sets will be.


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OK for those of you who dont know me ill drop a quick rundown of the creds.

1. Beta COH
2. Beta COV
3. EVERY month payed since beta.
4. Every month played since beta.
5. First Fire/Fire Blaster to hit the 40 cap (guardian)
6. Closing in to 4000 hours on my lvl 50 Blaster /\
7. Almost all the badges baby.

OK now that the gloating is out of the way. Id like to first start by saying im in no way am going to say "YAY DEVS!" yet. They have not yet given me any reason to have faith in reguards to anything blaster related. Ive trying to cattle prod changes in our secondaries since issue 2.

I will however give a big THANK YOU to Castle, and would like to also agree with the comment that its about time we have a redname. I am over joyed with his statements about the changes.

I am glad they took our advice about increasing the range of some attacks, we badly needed it.

/Fire ABSOLUTLY needs an overhaul, from lvls 1 to 50 the only secondaries I had were ring of fire ( required), Build Up, and Hot Feet, (cause I ran out of things to take before the ancils came out).

While I welcome any positive changes to my favorite powerset, I like many others am confused as to what you could possibly need to change in the Fire/ set. I love it to death, the only thing in my opinion would make it better is if you ether added a small chance for fear (if i was on fire id be scared) or made Inferno a ranged move lol. The set is darn near perfect.

Also yeah Device needs a little of there power back cause they got molested last nerf.

Anywho..........

Castle I cant thank you enough for rallying to our cause.

*whispers*

Now see what you can do about Defiance lol.


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Tons of people still play on the U.S. servers and haven't switched over when they became able to because of the friends they made.

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So?


 

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Tons of people still play on the U.S. servers and haven't switched over when they became able to because of the friends they made.

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So?

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Well, what I meant by that was, in the post by Lighthouse that was mentioned earlier, he was speaking to the entire forum, correct? Would that not include those people?

Or did I miss read something.... again... >.>


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A while back, the Devs were discussing examining the Blaster Secondaries to try to make them more effective. I know that Electric, Energy, and Devices get a lot of use from Blappers or mine + TP-foe'rs, but you don't see that many /Ice or /Fire. I believe that was mainly why they were checking out the Secondaries.

Just curious, but was this dropped, put further back on the schedule, still working on it, but not mentioned much?

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they lied to shut us up. worked too.

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Heh, that it did seem to.


Give the Ice Secondary a real 9th tier power!


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/Fire ABSOLUTLY needs an overhaul, from lvls 1 to 50 the only secondaries I had were ring of fire ( required), Build Up, and Hot Feet, (cause I ran out of things to take before the ancils came out).

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While I'm sorry to hear that you get little use out of your secondary, ironically Fire/ is probably the power set that least needs that /Fire brings to the table. My Ice/Fire blaster, on the other hand, so far has and uses a number of /Fire powers (including the much-maligned Combustion) to good effect. Just because you don't like the powers doesn't make them bad or totally useless powers.

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Well, what about Blazing Aura? I don't think I've even seen a Blapper with that power, but I could be wrong. The only possible use it could have would be to keep enemies away, but since it doesn't have a fear effect, all you accomplish is getting them to attack you at melee if you get close enough to hit them with it.


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Tons of people still play on the U.S. servers and haven't switched over when they became able to because of the friends they made.

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So?

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Ohms, when this game came out, it came out in Europe too. At the same time. There WAS no US version, there was only CoH, one game, published worldwide (or almost). They THEN, a year later, created the Euro version which many of us had no intention on moving to, for several reasons. My own were the friends I'd made ingame, and my altoholism. The Euro version gets 5 servers, and only three of those are in English, the others are in German and French. Given that everyone in Europe has English in school, and few outside France speaks French, and German being a horrid language overall (yes, I do speak it, still horrid), this game still hosts an international community.
For many, the only reason to move would be the maintenance times which usually hit school/work hours anyway.

Also, most of us have absolutely no idea what armistice day is anyway, making it a moot point.


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Well, what about Blazing Aura? I don't think I've even seen a Blapper with that power, but I could be wrong. The only possible use it could have would be to keep enemies away, but since it doesn't have a fear effect, all you accomplish is getting them to attack you at melee if you get close enough to hit them with it.

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I took Blazing Aura on my L42 Fire/Fire/Fire. I wanted an extra aura. It's not even good at that.

But in response to _Castle_'s words, I have to say, again as a Fire/Fire Blaster, WOO-Hoo! MORE POWER!


 

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I really don't know why they think they need to call a power set by one name internally and another name externally.

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Happens ALL the time with legacy code. It's usually a total nightmare to rename labels in a large and complex in-use program, for very little gain apart from the very occasional point of confusion with external users.

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To expand on this in another way, it is also a matter of getting used to refering to certain code by one name and a decision being made later to change the name. IIRC, the set was originally named Gadgets, but changed to Devices either before closed Beta or during early closed Beta. When you use that name when talking to others on the same project for a while, it's a habit to continue to use that name when discussing it, even though the name has been changed. Since Castle routinely talks to the programmers, it would be natural for him to refer to it by the same name they use, or anyone else that discusses these matters in-house at Cryptic.

All of that is just to point out how amazed I am that after all of the public discussions of various powers and powersets that the Cryptic team members have taken part in, this is one of the first times I can recall such a slip being made by one of them. There may have been others, but I really can't recall what they may have been or if they indeed happened. That's a pretty good track record. The other thing that amazes me is how big of a fuss is still being made over such a simple slip.

Oh, and for those wondering about the Dev Haste set, it is still Perma-able, and I believe it also still contains a Defense buff. They may need to increase that defense buff on the Dev Haste power or give it a Tough Hide component.


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I know that this puppy launched without Euro-servers (or Korean). Used to run with about a half-dozen Brits for a while ages ago. Not to mention a couple times with (ironically enough) OHMS. Not really my point though. First off, the folks in Europe now have their servers and forums and such. Secondly, and more to the point, the "warning" about mentioning Nov 11th and the holidays that fall thereon had little to do with European posters. If it did, it would've been on the Euro servers too. It wasn't. And my response wasn't meant to stick a thumb in the eye of Europeans or anyone else for that matter. Not sure if I found the political correctness or the self-loathing or the "don't you go exercising the freedom so many men and women (from all over the world) have put it all on the line (all over the world) to guarantee you" the most offensive about it all. [/threadjack]


 

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In an upcoming patch, here are a few things you'll see:
Increased EDIT:Maximum ranges for attacks like Blaze.
Some improvements for */Fire (No, no powers were switched out. No Fiery Embrace, I'm afraid. )
Some improvements for Fire/*
A very minor improvement for Gadgets...I mean, Devices! (Yeah, it was a dumb mistake -- typing in haste and all of that.)


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I look forward to the day that the patch appears on Test... and the inevitable, "That's not what Blasters wanted! Why didn't you fix this other thing instead!" responses, regardless of what changes were actually made.

And all the comments about the Gadgets / Devices mix-up are just getting old. It's really time to let that one die.


 

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_Castle_

I've played numerous blasters, even a Fire/Fire to 50. I find it hilarious to read all the "yay!" and "WooT!, some blaster love" that was inspired by your post.

If you havent figured it out yet, there are quite a few of us who are tired of the same old song and dance with nothing ever produced.

Do I expect you to tell us exactly what you are planning? Not really, we know that things change and all that. But on the flip side, the ever popular trade marked "soon" has worn pretty darn thin by now.

At some point, you guys are actually going to have to put blasters at the top of the priority list.

I would suggest, "soon".


 

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/Dev
make cloaking device work like Improved Invis


 

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All of these, very much including the name slip, invariably leads one to conclude that there's a certain level, "Meh, [censored] 'em." attitude going on. [/rant]

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Thanks for the response man.... but after damn near 18 months you'll understand my stance of (i'll believe when I see it) And honestly dude... I do appreciate the contact A LOT. I'd just as soon as not even be told about any proposed improvements untill.... they happen. And yes dammit lable me a moron but I like E.T.A's funny me. But you can understand... I've been waiting since I-4.... and what we got was defiance and a health boost to make us dumb enough to think about trying it.... but not a big enough one to make it effective. Not that I want a health boost. It was un-needed man. You could give us tanker hit points... and we'd still need dull-pain to make defiance worth the risk.

But I gotta admit making blaze a part of a ranged attack chain would make me forget just how much defiance sucks....

For a couple months anyways.


 

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They really need to re-examine whether the game needs an all-offense, no-defense archetype. On paper, it's a nice baseline balance, but in practice there's too damn many mezzes and stuns and other effects to make Blasters any more than a theoretical exercise.

What we'll get instead is a secondary effect for Fire/* and */Fire that helps mitigate Fire's massive aggro. What we won't get is a legitimate 3rd attack for Electric/*, a decent set of utilitarian Blaster secondaries, or anything to differentiate us from a naked Scrapper.


 

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In an upcoming patch, here are a few things you'll see:
Increased EDIT:Maximum ranges for attacks like Blaze.
Some improvements for */Fire (No, no powers were switched out. No Fiery Embrace, I'm afraid. )
Some improvements for Fire/*
A very minor improvement for Gadgets...I mean, Devices! (Yeah, it was a dumb mistake -- typing in haste and all of that.)

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Let Bitter Ice Blast be your guide in adjusting the high-damage attacks. Never made sense to me why BIB was so much longer than the other attacks in the first place.

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What is Ice's exchange for not having a snipe then?

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Two single target holds probably. Also, the best animation times of any set and one of the best secondary effects on its blasts.

Snipes aren't that hot anyways, haven't been since ED. Anyhow, Archery's Blazing Arrow (the archery 3rd single target blast) already outranges BiB, and Archery has a Snipe too. I don't know that theres a spreadsheet where having a snipe is equated to other powers in some sort of numerical fashion. I suspect that there isn't.


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In an upcoming patch, here are a few things you'll see:
Increased EDIT:Maximum ranges for attacks like Blaze.
Some improvements for */Fire (No, no powers were switched out. No Fiery Embrace, I'm afraid. )
Some improvements for Fire/*
A very minor improvement for Gadgets...I mean, Devices! (Yeah, it was a dumb mistake -- typing in haste and all of that.)

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Let Bitter Ice Blast be your guide in adjusting the high-damage attacks. Never made sense to me why BIB was so much longer than the other attacks in the first place.

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What is Ice's exchange for not having a snipe then?

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Two single target holds probably. Also, the best animation times of any set and one of the best secondary effects on its blasts.

Snipes aren't that hot anyways, haven't been since ED. Anyhow, Archery's Blazing Arrow (the archery 3rd single target blast) already outranges BiB, and Archery has a Snipe too. I don't know that theres a spreadsheet where having a snipe is equated to other powers in some sort of numerical fashion. I suspect that there isn't.

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Have you ever used the Archery snipe? Not quite worth the interruptability.


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