Devs, PLEASE change the Born in Battle accolade
By
ARGHanomics,
Posted on: 2006-06-29 13:34 in Badges and Gladiators
Woohoo, thank you very much Posi!! Unbreakable is much more reasonable and puts it on par with the dificulty of getting Portal Jockey (imo of course 
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I've lowered the requirements for this from needing the "Nigh Indestructible" badge (100,000,000 damage taken) to "Unbreakable" (10,000,000 damage taken).
This is in a future patch (not on the Training Room yet). I don't know when it will be promoted to TR or to the live servers, but it is in the pipeline.
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Awesome.
See - whining pays off!
Thanks for eight fun years, Paragon.
Since I rarely say this....enjoy it Posi 
Thank you Positron/Matt...
Til our next battle...well played...
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I've lowered the requirements for this from needing the "Nigh Indestructible" badge (100,000,000 damage taken) to "Unbreakable" (10,000,000 damage taken).
This is in a future patch (not on the Training Room yet). I don't know when it will be promoted to TR or to the live servers, but it is in the pipeline.
[/ QUOTE ]Woot! This means, once this goes live, the accolade is mine! I already have unbreakable on my stalker and just needed Nigh for the accolade. 
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Guess I'll have to update the guide to afk damage badge farming I posted yesterday.
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Just make sure it stays up. My Mastermind is almost 46 and still haven't even taken 1 million damage. 100 million was going to drive me insane. 10 million will just make me a little crazy.
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Guess I'll have to update the guide to afk damage badge farming I posted yesterday.
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Just make sure it stays up. My Mastermind is almost 46 and still haven't even taken 1 million damage. 100 million was going to drive me insane. 10 million will just make me a little crazy.
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Really? My 42 Mastermind has the second badge and is well on her way to Unbreakable, and not because of getting killed a lot (although villain's night in RV certainly couldn't have hurt, curse you Manticore).
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Meh. My TANKER didn't get Unbreakable over the course of going from level 1-50, only after several more months of regular Hamidon raids and helping others level. This Accolade still won't be useable over the course of a normal toon's leveling, it'll likely be attained after 50.
It's nice that I can actually GET it now, but it's still too high.
Nonono . . . the change means DAYS of farming. Instead of WEEKS.
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I've lowered the requirements for this from needing the "Nigh Indestructible" badge (100,000,000 damage taken) to "Unbreakable" (10,000,000 damage taken).
This is in a future patch (not on the Training Room yet). I don't know when it will be promoted to TR or to the live servers, but it is in the pipeline.
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Since 6 months of solid gameplay - which included levelling to 40, months of badge hunting and helping SG, and then levelling to 50 - only got me to approx 1.1 million on my MM, I doubt I will play the game long enough to get this badge through normal gameplay. In other words, this just means shorter AFK damage farming. I still don't see the fun in it.
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Meh. My TANKER didn't get Unbreakable over the course of going from level 1-50, only after several more months of regular Hamidon raids and helping others level. This Accolade still won't be useable over the course of a normal toon's leveling, it'll likely be attained after 50.
It's nice that I can actually GET it now, but it's still too high.
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Agreed.
Tankers are getting this badge in CoH post-50. Including ones who took 1-2 hours of pounding from Hamidon every night for about four months.
It means that people will do unfun and boring things to get it. The kind of behavior they discourage.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Just leaving CoV running a few days in a row while you go to sleep, or go to work, resting on top of 2 level 53 malta turrets will get you there. 14 ticks of 50 a pop every 4 seconds...mmm, that's good damage soaking. I wish I could get a 3rd, but the engineers wouldn't cooperate...
That's what i'm doing right now while I afk for good chunks of an hour at a time and browse the boards.
Taking it down once is Progress. Maybe they'll even reconsider lowering it to Ironman, which is a badge everyone could've earned by 50.
Honestly I think they should rename every epic damage badge to "Bullet Sponge".
Oh, trust me, I'm not worried about being able to get it. My complaint is that I have to resort to meta-game boring mindless BS I can literally be AFK for.
There shouldn't be things like that which provide reward.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Meh. My TANKER didn't get Unbreakable over the course of going from level 1-50, only after several more months of regular Hamidon raids and helping others level. This Accolade still won't be useable over the course of a normal toon's leveling, it'll likely be attained after 50.
It's nice that I can actually GET it now, but it's still too high.
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Agreed.
Tankers are getting this badge in CoH post-50. Including ones who took 1-2 hours of pounding from Hamidon every night for about four months.
It means that people will do unfun and boring things to get it. The kind of behavior they discourage.
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Exactly. My Controller, my first 50 dinged the very day i3 hit test, in 970 hours of play is still only half way to the 10 million damage badge. I don't think that my 40 MM will be any different.
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Oh, trust me, I'm not worried about being able to get it. My complaint is that I have to resort to meta-game boring mindless BS I can literally be AFK for.
There shouldn't be things like that which provide reward.
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I have to say. I feel this is simply the wrong sort of badge to require for an accolade.
A badge you have to do a specific mission to get? Yes, yes, yes. First of all, any level 50 character ought to have done that mission anyway. If they failed it, then that's their penalty for failure (auto-fail bugs aside, don't bring bugs into game balance; it doesn't make sense.) If they didn't do it then they can find someone who has it. Most importantly, actually getting the badge will take a short time. And if you play the game thoroughly you probably already have it.
Exploration badges are fine too. History badges, sure. Even kill-100-of-this-enemy badges. I mean, some of those are a pain but it isn't so bad.
NOT take 100,000,000 damage badges. Or ANY boring and pointless badge like that. Make players experience MORE content to get accolades, not less. Such badges should certainly exist. They simply should NEVER be a requirement for ANYTHING else.
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Wow, the Devs actually come in here and lower a badge requirement but still only get [censored] from the community. And I thought I was Anti-Dev.
With zero power-leveling and lots of playing on big teams, my brute will get the 10 million damage taken badge during regular game play. I have 2 levels to go and just a hair til I get the badge. I guess the lower resists then a tank helps the brutes take more damage.
Awesomesauce. This badge is much more managable for non-Brutes to get. It may still be tricky, but not hard either.
great work y'all, and that goes to all of us. we talked about it from a lot of different angles and traded some good points. we saw a better way to go and now it's going to happen. us ftw. raise da roof.
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Really? My 42 Mastermind has the second badge and is well on her way to Unbreakable, and not because of getting killed a lot (although villain's night in RV certainly couldn't have hurt, curse you Manticore).
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Um, you may be confused. Unbreakable is the 4th damage badge. If you only have the second badge you still have a LONG way to go. The badge order is: Stoic (100,000), Hard Case (500,000), Ironman (1,000,000), Unbreakable (10,000,000)
And to Positron, I'm glad that I'll at least be able to get the accolade now. But it will still take a lot of afk damage farming to get it.
I still think it's a bit unfair though since the badge is obviously easier for Brutes to get. Whereas the Portal Jockey accolade can be easily obtained by ANYONE by simply completing the needed story arcs.
Anyway, I guess I'll start farming tonight so I can get the accolade when it goes live.
Interesting. Are people actually complaining about post-50 content?
Sure, you can get it pre-50 by farming for it. But if it's boring, Just Say No, right?
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Interesting. Are people actually complaining about post-50 content?
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That's my problem with it. It shouldn't be a post-50 thing.
Heroes can earn the Portal Jockey Accolade (the hero equivalent to Born in Battle) by 45 through regular playing by simply completing the needed story arcs. Why should the villains have a requirement that few, if any, will earn through normal playing. A badge that most will have to do lots of afk damage farming for, and a badge that is easier for some archetypes to get and hard for others?
I really like the suggestion of the requirement being the Usurper badge. I believe the Usurper badge is supposed to (bugged I guess?) be rewarded for defeating Lord Recluse in the last mission of the last Patron story arc.
This is a great idea. It requires you to do a stroy arc, and the story arc can only be done at 45 or later. It seems like a perfect match to me.
Is it supposed to be post-50 content? According to whom?
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Oh, trust me, I'm not worried about being able to get it. My complaint is that I have to resort to meta-game boring mindless BS I can literally be AFK for.
There shouldn't be things like that which provide reward.
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I'd like to see a dev address this. Getting ANY badge by being AFK is pretty silly. Damage badges should be achievable by any AT and unless they are tied to accolades specifically designed for post-50 play, you should have a reasonable shot at getting them before level 50 through regular play, not by setting up meta-game conditions to "game the game".
If all ATs can reasonably absorb 10 million points of damage during regular gameplay and well before hitting level 50, consider my comments withdrawn.
I earned unbreakable on my stalker through pvp'ing before issue7 went live. I'm 35% of the way to 100,000,000 even now at level 44.
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I just hope you guys don't start a new crusade of "Unbreakable is too hard to get on my ________! Lower it some more PLEASE!"
It'll be nice to see this debate finally put to bed.
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Well, you'll be happy to note that at least you won't hear any complaints from me, as I can at least see that I can get it through regular play (potentially). I would have prefered a more AT-neutral badge, but I can't have everything I want
Edit: It would have been better to have been a badge that could be reached equally, regardless of AT, it still isn't. This is still favoring melee types.
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