There will allways be cries of nerfs as long as this game is PvP and PvE, these posts are just the beginning!
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Oh you are very right, let me get a break free after i get ASd.
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You have one... It's green and comes in three strengths... And with the new change to eliminate one-shotting, you'll have a chance to use it.
reeeealy? Do they come in flavors too?
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Pheonixxic was trying to tell us that being wooped by a blaster is the same as being ASd. he said if he had a break free he could have escaped, u cant use a break free with a stalker. You guys are missing the point why AS should be nerfed, nothing should be that powerful of an attack should have been created at such a low level and so frequantly used as well. It should have been your last primary power, and used every 10 minutes or more.
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I'll agree to this when:
1. We get Blaster hp.
2. We get Blaster damage in all attacks.
3. We get AoE in all sets.
4. We get range.
I think YOU'RE missing the point where we may have ONE powerful attack, but the rest are pretty mediocre on the damage scale. And I don't mean that all our attacks say "Moderate" or "Low." I mean that our damage is really low for a melee class. That's right. We're M-E-L-E-E; meaning: we can't go around sniping from safe spots with stealth, like a Blaster can. You don't see a mass uprising of the playerbase crying for Blaster nerfs, though. I'm actually quite confused as to WHY. If you get ASed by a Stalker, you sure as hell know where it came from. If you get sniped by a stealthed Blaster who knows how to use their Defiance, how're you going to retaliate? If you let a Stalker get close enough to AS, then that's your fault
As for giving people a chance to fight back? I do it ALL THE TIME And SOLO, too. If I were teamed with someone, I could understand it, but I do make my intentions and the situation quite clear. I've done it since I first stepped into PVP. You know what happens? They: a) call for backup and I get ganged up on, b) run, or c) actually fight back. I listed those in order of rarity, from most common to rare. That's right. Seeing them fight back is EXTREMELY rare. I can only summarize this by saying "the heroes are far more cowardly than I've EVER been."
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Also, name another AT that villians have that can even stand up to the Heroes.
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Brutes, at lvl 40, a dark/dark brute allmost killed my lvl 50 invun/stone tank in the arena, add 10 lvls and the brute will be uber compared to a tank.
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Thats because invuln is a joke against non-S/L damage.
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[quoteThat's right. We're M-E-L-E-E; meaning: we can't go around sniping from safe spots with stealth, like a Blaster can.
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Wow, really? your melee? Show me another AT that has a power you get before lvl 10 with a dmg off 100% HP.
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..how does anything you just said change the fact that we're melee? "Melee" means "NOT Ranged" you know. AS isn't ranged and less than half the Stalker sets have ranged attacks. The two that DO only have one attack, each.
The point i was making, was that my lvl 50 Tank, which is very eager for i7 so he can squish you, is that when he was lvl 10, he couldnt 1 shot you, nor a scrapper, hell not even a brute, all M-E-L-E-E's. that is my point.
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You guys are missing the point why AS should be nerfed, nothing should be that powerful of an attack
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I think YOU'RE missing the point where we may have ONE powerful attack, but the rest are pretty mediocre on the damage scale. And I don't mean that all our attacks say "Moderate" or "Low." I mean that our damage is really low for a melee class.
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The whose missing the point game - yeah!
I think YOU'RE missing the point in that assasin strike is so powerful your other attacks are moot for the poor schmoe licking asphalt.
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If you get ASed by a Stalker, you sure as hell know where it came from.
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Knowing you've been AS'd and knowing where it came from are not exactly the same thing and again unimportant when you're deciding to go to your SG base or to the hospital for recovery. I've spun the camera around on many occasion trying to spot my assailant and seen nothing or maybe a wisp of an invisible nothing (of course, I suck, but that's another post entirely... ha!). I will agree though that a defianced up, hopped up on build up and red pills, blaster who's sniping you while stealthed that fades into the shadows while your still trying to get the license plate of the... well, that stinks too - and stinks equally for the victim - but hey, no danger no excitement right?
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Cmon vort, say something smart [censored] like and make me, the one who will sit back at your soon to be nerfed [censored], right about stalkers. All you guys do is cry and strike back at a constructive suggestion. C'mon vort. lol
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Since when cage monkeys in the zoo have access to computers?!?!? 
Actually, you know what? the hami cant even 1 hit me, it shows that the highest dmg output( and i am projecting this if a stalker is lvl 50 with out the soon to be nerf) Here are the 3 highest dmg outputs in a single attack:
1.-When a building explodes, for the volunteer fireman badge, i was 1 hitted with unstop on from 15000HP
2.-a Stalker that takes 100% HP
3.-the Hamidon- taking 85% of my HP
How much HP do I have at lvl 50 with dull pain and accaolade powers? 3200HP
Still think that AS shouldnt be nerfed? To have a single power stronger then the Hamidon.
Since they gave monkey doo like yourself access.
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Since they gave monkey doo like yourself access.
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Hey, the main link to cro-magnon's trying to say something!!! 
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Actually, you know what? the hami cant even 1 hit me, it shows that the highest dmg output( and i am projecting this if a stalker is lvl 50 with out the soon to be nerf) Here are the 3 highest dmg outputs in a single attack:
1.-When a building explodes, for the volunteer fireman badge, i was 1 hitted with unstop on from 15000HP
2.-a Stalker that takes 100% HP
3.-the Hamidon- taking 85% of my HP
How much HP do I have at lvl 50 with dull pain and accaolade powers? 3200HP
Still think that AS shouldnt be nerfed? To have a single power stronger then the Hamidon.
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The Hamidon nucleus does about 935 points of damage, yellow mitochrondia do 782.4 points of damage, plus 5 ticks of 47.7, for a total of 1020.9 points of damage (to a level 50). Yellow mitos hit a bit harder than the nucleus, and shoot faster (just enough so that while I4 regens could tank the nucleus unassisted, they couldn't quite keep up with a yellow mito).
The stalker damage scale is 0.9 of blasters, so at level 50 their brawl damage should be about 18. AS does 19.4446 BI. Stalkers have a 400% damage cap. Maximum AS damage at level 50 should be about 1400 at the damage cap. Without stacking insps, a stalker might do closer to 980 with build up. Neither level of damage is capable of one-shotting a tank at level 50. Neither level of damage is capable of one-shotting a scrapper that has any of the health accolades.
And Hamidon is not the highest single-attack hitter in the game. Many things outstrike it in a single attack: in particular many AVs. Hamidon and his mitos' main claim to fame is unresistable damage, very fast cycling damage, and mega accuracy (yellow mitos fire every 4 seconds: their damage output is a whopping 255dps - the nucleus is a comparatively weak 197dps - and they almost never miss).
Not that I think the facts mean much here.
By the way, energy punch at the damage cap does 5.4445 BI * 20 * 5.0 = 544.45 damage in 0.6 seconds: 907.4 dps during its activation. In four seconds, EP+BS does (5.4445+7.2223)*20*5.0=1266.68 damage: better than Hamidon or his yellow mitos.
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Sigh. He's just a moron. Ignore him.
At least the other anti-stalker foaming-at-the-mouth people are kinda entertaining.
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How much HP do I have at lvl 50 with dull pain and accaolade powers? 3200HP
Still think that AS shouldnt be nerfed? To have a single power stronger then the Hamidon.
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Ahem, are you trying to say that a Buildup + AS from a stalker can one shot your tanker? I know you mustn't because that is simply false. I have beat the few stalkers that have engaged my invul/ss tank. You hit DP->RAGE->KB->Haymaker->Punch and maybe a break-free in there if they are EM and they stun you after the toggle drop from AS. The ToHit bonus from Rage 1-3 slotted helps cutting through their defense and the damage bonus is nice as well. I'm no PvP ninja either I just try to do what I think make sense versus my opponent and sometimes it works.
A tank is really a poor choice for creating a compelling argument for the nerf of stalkers. If you have ever seen the Freaks on Liberty bust on stalkers it's pretty sick. Most of the stalkers really don't like it. I think that learning strategies for PvP are essential for success. Anyone that does not learn these strategies will fail.
Most stalkers (in my experience) aren't much after the AS and if you have seen the Elernet video you can watch him beat people without the use of hide. His main tools are placate and TP foe. I don't like his tactics much, but he has been successful with them. I liked Slyfe's tactics much more. He even talks to his enemy before he engages them .
Assassin strike at level 50 vs a target with no resists at all, at the damage cap:
Base: 250.24
Critical: 1501.47
Total: 1751.71 hp in one hit.
Level 50 Stalker has 1017.1 hp.
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Assassin strike at level 50 vs a target with no resists at all, at the damage cap:
Base: 250.24
Critical: 1501.47
Total: 1751.71 hp in one hit.
Level 50 Stalker has 1017.1 hp.
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thanks for the news, wow were gonna be one shotted by scrappers then, seems all these nerfs and no love in the health department. guess we'll all have to go kamikaze after level 50 cause those hp's are gonna make us dead real quick.
Thanks Castle!
Appreciate your hard workand taking the time to er, um, 'placate' all of the irate posters in the stalker forums.
Pahdbacca a.k.a. Zhoie the 31st TL magic ninja/regen stalker on Triumph
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Assassin strike at level 50 vs a target with no resists at all, at the damage cap:
Base: 250.24
Critical: 1501.47
Total: 1751.71 hp in one hit.
Level 50 Stalker has 1017.1 hp.
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thanks for the news, wow were gonna be one shotted by scrappers then, seems all these nerfs and no love in the health department. guess we'll all have to go kamikaze after level 50 cause those hp's are gonna make us dead real quick.
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Actually, this is good news to stalkers - he's saying that a Stalker can still do more damage in one hit than a Stalker has HP. Of course that's assuming zero resists. Scrappers can't do that kind of damage in one hit... normally. Not sure about BU+Headsplitter or something.
no, you can't be one-shot by a scrapper (which I think caps 1339 health at 50)
the 1751 is enough to really hurt a tank without his resists on (1874 at 50 or something)
of course... with the nerfs to resists, 3 stalkers with damage cap could still drop a tank with 3 AS very easily (2 if they use that tanks weak element)
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Assassin strike at level 50 vs a target with no resists at all, at the damage cap :
Base: 250.24
Critical: 1501.47
Total: 1751.71 hp in one hit.
Level 50 Stalker has 1017.1 hp.
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note hes not refering to an ordinary AS here
He posted a Stalkers HP, other ATs will have significantly more HP.
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Also, name another AT that villians have that can even stand up to the Heroes.
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Brutes, at lvl 40, a dark/dark brute allmost killed my lvl 50 invun/stone tank in the arena, add 10 lvls and the brute will be uber compared to a tank.
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actually I cant wait to see what ten more lvls/patron powers is gonna do for villains, hopefully it will even things out (PvPwise) or create another monster for heroes to cry nerf over.