Few other QoL things...
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8_Ball,
Posted on: 2006-01-11 18:07 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
I'd guess pets would be unaffected as well. It just brings up a slew of questions about certain power combos though. Will Aim boost Thorntrops? Will Powerboost affect Ice Slick? The possibilities are endless...
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We just received tech that will allow players to pass buffs onto certain powers (such as Blizzard).
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Blizzard apparently doesn't benefit from +dmg buffs applied to the user - so, Build Up, Aim, Fortitude, Fulcrum Shift, etc, don't do anything for it.
I could be mistaken, though.
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Thats exactly what it means. All "Summon" type skills that require a reticle can not be buffed from Self Buffs. Blizzard, Ice Storm, Trip Mine (I believe), Burn, etc. If it shows up in your Status Bar, then it wouldn't be affected by Build Up, I believe.
Fiery Embrace buffing Burn? Now you're talking.
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This is what I thought, but it's been many moons since I read about such things.
My Fire/Dark Corruptors will exclaim happily and set things on fire.
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We're tweaking with toggle dropping...mostly decreasing its overall effect.
We just received tech that will allow players to pass buffs onto certain powers (such as Blizzard).
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We're tweaking with toggle dropping...mostly decreasing its overall effect.
We just received tech that will allow players to pass buffs onto certain powers (such as Blizzard).
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Thats great news for my toggle-heavy DA scrapper. I spend more time reactivating toggles than attacking some blastrs/Tanks. And mezzing someone thru a toogle while its in the process of being dropped was bad game design.
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Two things I want to know:
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First they hacked the servers, now they have hacked States' forum account! We'll all be gone to the Americans before too long!
Still can't shake the feeling I'm being set up though. Been a Regen scrapper for too long. 
Both are pretty good changes. I don't normally champion for nerfs, but toggle dropping was getting pretty silly, especially after all the defense toggle based sets took really hard nerfs on their. A few character classes (ie blasters, defenders, dominators) should still have a couple powers that are good at "purging" as an AT strength, but it should not but totally taken out.
The blizzard (and maybe arrow rain too? 
) fix is very welcome, and this fix has been something anyone who uses a DoT non buffable power has been waiting on for a while.
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and please buff electrics end drain and their primaries damage. And replace Voltiac Sentinal with something good!
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Yes, what that guy said !!!
Jack your vacation must have been good, you should take them more often
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After all these months, I'll be able to buff blizzard with buildup and aim????
*cries*
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'bout time.
Absolutely retarded that all this time a blaster using melee 1st in fight has about a 80% increase in his chance to defeat a melee AT - who he should be doing everything in his power to remain at range from and only melee as a last resort.
I guess we'll see a mysterious decrease in the self subscribed and often broadcasted "skill" level of all you /nrg blasters out there who have been riding the out of control toggle dropping cheese and just shrug at all the complaining like its tough to be so good.
Congratulations, you've been balanced.
Id enjoy laughing at you but you'll mysteriously stop pvping after this change I guarentee it, you know who you are.
Cuah..
CuahaAHaha!
Hey, its been a while since states actually posted something that made me smile.
Thanks buddy.
The defense changes are nice too btw.
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Ok..who are you?
What did you do with Statesman?
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Attacks that are actually pets will now be affected by buildup type powers? HOLY COW!
Can that pretty-please be added to Dark Servant?
Still here, even after all this time!
Oh my... now Rain of Arrows will be worth taking... and aim+buildup+ Blizzard will be insane if you have aoe immobs on your team.
And the stuff you could pull with aim+buildup+Rain of Arrows every time ROA is up will make Archery much more popular, I'm guessing.
It'll be able to out-do even Full Auto one on one for instance, which'll be nice for the people who took ROA before and wept when they discovered it was unbuffable aside from enhancements.
I'm -very- happy at this fact.
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I can Build-up/Aim Blizzard now? Seriously?? This is going to be the Best. Nuke. Ever, now.
AVs are soloable now, defense is getting equalized, rain powers are getting buffed. I7 is really shaping up to be the "fix everything that's still broken" issue. Throw in some fixes to Fire Manipulation and Devices, and I may never have anything to complain about ever again.
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"Decreasing its overall effect" does not sound to me like "will happen much less often." It sounds like toggle dropping might get mechanically changed somewhat, perhaps to adding a way to debuff the strength of toggles or temporarily suppressing them, instead of dropping them altogether, which would probably be a lot more fair and fun in PvP overall.
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We're tweaking with toggle dropping...mostly decreasing its overall effect.
We just received tech that will allow players to pass buffs onto certain powers (such as Blizzard).
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My Ice/Dark corruptor just got even better! By buffs, I assume you mean things like Build Up and Aim? Or will external buffs like Fortitude and Forge now affect dropped summons like Blizzard, Lighting Storm, Freezing Rain, etc?
And thumbs up to decreasing toggle dropping. I think its a decent mechanic that is too prevalent right now.
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We just received tech that will allow players to pass buffs onto certain powers (such as Blizzard).
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Attacks that are actually pets will now be affected by buildup type powers? HOLY COW!
Can that pretty-please be added to Dark Servant?
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I dont think this will affect pets. Dropping inspirations on Henchman seems like an MM only thing. However, I think DS should be slottable for damage with the beating he got in I5 and ED.
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We just received tech that will allow players to pass buffs onto certain powers (such as Blizzard).
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Attacks that are actually pets will now be affected by buildup type powers? HOLY COW!
Can that pretty-please be added to Dark Servant?
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I dont think this will affect pets. Dropping inspirations on Henchman seems like an MM only thing. However, I think DS should be slottable for damage with the beating he got in I5 and ED.
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I believe he meant attacks that are really summoned, like rains and burn patches. They're technically pet-like.
I don't think he meant actual pets.
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Place effects such as Blizzard, Rain of Fire, Burn, and Ice Storm (and, a few others you might not expect, like Twilight Grasp) are currently not able to be buffed by buffs to their owner/caster.
For example, Build Up will not improve Rain of Fire, and Power Build Up will not improve Twilight Grasp.
What he is describing allows that to be fixed.
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So burn won't suck as much as it does now?
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yep burn would be in this category of powers. yay burn buff!
also, Who are this Statesman and what did he do with Jack?
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To me that means once something like Blizzard is cast and exists in the game world, then something like Fortitude or Fulcrum Shift may be cast onto it. Basically, they will now be AI-less, immobile pets. That means self-buffing powers such as Aim or Build-up still would not affect them.
And my money is on Burn NOT being one of the powers that gets this feature.
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Try to make toggle-dropping more power-based and less random.
I'd like to see Tanks get one high magnitude attack that can stun the other melee-ers through status protection. Sort of an Assassin Strike, but high magnitude instead of high damage. It would really bump up their threat level in PvP, without much effect on PvE.
But I could be bias towards Tanks...
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Best Idea Evar!!!!!!
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So burn won't suck as much as it does now?
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And Firey Embrace will have a purpose for non-/Fire Tanks?!
Toning down toggle dropping....
HURRAY!!!
...and with the moving melee bug fix it might actually be possible to bring a tank to the PvP zones!
It's never to late to make wrong things right States!
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To me that means once something like Blizzard is cast and exists in the game world, then something like Fortitude or Fulcrum Shift may be cast onto it. Basically, they will now be AI-less, immobile pets. That means self-buffing powers such as Aim or Build-up still would not affect them.
And my money is on Burn NOT being one of the powers that gets this feature.
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I think you're missing the context of previous discussions on the powers we're talking about.
I guarantee you it means buffs that affect the caster now will be inherited by place powers they "cast".
You use Build Up and then Rain of Fire, the RoF gets a +100% damage buff and a 62.5% toHit buff (or whatever the real value is), just like Fireball would.
That's what it means. Today, you can't do that, and it's been wished for by the players for a very, very long time.
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I'd take a wild guess and say that Pets will not be a part of those 'certain powers'...
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