"The Surviving Eight"
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13th_Stranger,
Posted on: 2005-04-24 18:42 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Wow, I forgot there was a novel in the works. Sweet.
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P.S. For the poster who stated there was only red K, well, you are partly correct: there is still kryptonite, all colors and sorts, and over 100 pounds of the stuff is missing, presumably in the hands of a secret society of villians. Go read Countdown to Infinite Crisis (RIP Ted Kord).
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No, I said that it was just Red K that takes his powers. The 100 pounds of Kryptonite is in the hands of The new Red Hood, who is supposedly Jason Todd.
Go read a small fraction of the comics I do. 
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Citadel = Luminary - just seemed appropriate the 2 androids were a team since they are the only 2 who probably can have a conversation on the same lvl
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Consisting entirely of 0's and 1's?
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There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
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There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
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Ha, ha, ha. Oh, man that was great, truly a signature-worthy comment there. (It has the ring of a cliche about it, but it's new to me.)
Still, this is the first I've heard of the novel. With Top Cow taking over the comic and a novel, it seems that City of Heroes is here to stay for a long while. That almost makes me nostalgic for all the DOOOOOOOOOOM! threads that used to profilerate these boards.
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P.S. For the poster who stated there was only red K, well, you are partly correct: there is still kryptonite, all colors and sorts, and over 100 pounds of the stuff is missing, presumably in the hands of a secret society of villians. Go read Countdown to Infinite Crisis (RIP Ted Kord).
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No, I said that it was just Red K that takes his powers. The 100 pounds of Kryptonite is in the hands of The new Red Hood, who is supposedly Jason Todd.
Go read a small fraction of the comics I do.
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Red kryptonite doesn't take his powers. Gold kryptonite did.
Comprehend and reserve a modicum of the comic book knowledge I have. 
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so, what's the story with raven out in striga isle? Anyone know?
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He's an Angst/Dark Poetry post grad, a new epic archetype coming up in Issue Eight.
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(Asked a stupid question).
CoH Codex : Demo Models/FX/MOVs : Demo Info
Arc 111022: "Doctor Geist and the Scientific Method"
Chimera. His minions are Basilisks, lieutenants are Cockatrice(s), and bosses are Gorgons. All petrifying Greek mythological monsters. Great scheme. Best of all the Praetorians.
Plus, ninjas fuggin' rock.
(Post edited. Wasn't a stupid question, man. "Does Manticore have a Praetorian counterpart?" Yes.)
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Statesman's really old. Marcus Cole found his inner strength in the "far east" after WWI, and became the Statesman. He's not quite kung-fu, so I don't know what's up with the far east bit. Also, he's natural. No magic, no mutation, no etc...
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WHo says he's natural? Marcus simply said that he'd unlocked his inner will, abut it was clear that he was pretty vague about the whole thing, so who know what exactly that entangles.
He COULD be a mutant. Maybe his inner will is his born gift. It could be that he tasted eastern mysticism. We don't know.
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Jack Emmer did.
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Hasn't Statesman confirmed that he's an 'Incarnate' or something like that? States did a thread post about future Epic ATs and threw out a few names for Epic ATs they have planned internally. 'Incarnate' or something like that was mentioned, and somebody else (non-red name) followed up and said that they heard that that's what Statesman was.
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Statesman is an Incarnate, just like Lord Recluse. Statesman himself has said this. What an "Incarnate" is, is up to anyones guess.
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It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
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And now we know Statesman is immortal 
Dorian Grey anyone?!
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Statesman's really old. Marcus Cole found his inner strength in the "far east" after WWI, and became the Statesman. He's not quite kung-fu, so I don't know what's up with the far east bit. Also, he's natural. No magic, no mutation, no etc...
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WHo says he's natural? Marcus simply said that he'd unlocked his inner will, abut it was clear that he was pretty vague about the whole thing, so who know what exactly that entangles.
He COULD be a mutant. Maybe his inner will is his born gift. It could be that he tasted eastern mysticism. We don't know.
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Jack Emmer did.
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Hasn't Statesman confirmed that he's an 'Incarnate' or something like that? States did a thread post about future Epic ATs and threw out a few names for Epic ATs they have planned internally. 'Incarnate' or something like that was mentioned, and somebody else (non-red name) followed up and said that they heard that that's what Statesman was.
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Statesman is an Incarnate, just like Lord Recluse. Statesman himself has said this. What an "Incarnate" is, is up to anyones guess.
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It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
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And now we know Statesman is immortal Dorian Grey anyone?!
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The Picture of Marcus Cole! How unspeakably hideous is it after his life of horrid deeds. Oh wait, he's a good guy, hows that work out?
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The Picture of Marcus Cole! How unspeakably hideous is it after his life of horrid deeds. Oh wait, he's a good guy, hows that work out?
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My point.
Who is Statesman really?
Why does he have to be Dorian Grey? Why can't we compare him to cooler literary figures with apparent immortality? Like Jesus.
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Red kryptonite doesn't take his powers. Gold kryptonite did.
Comprehend and reserve a modicum of the comic book knowledge I have.
[/ QUOTE ]Actually, there have been two post-Crisis versions of red kryptonite. The first, created by Mxyzptlk, did remove Superman's powers. The second, developed by Batman and used by Ras al Gul, turned Superman's skin transparent, amping his powers beyond control.
Since the 100 pounds of kryptonite currently in the posession of the Red Hood came from the newest Supergirl's arrival, and that was multi-colored, we really don't know what it could do. Superman was quarantined at the Watchtower while JSA and the rest of the JLA collected it.
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(Post edited. Wasn't a stupid question, man. "Does Manticore have a Praetorian counterpart?" Yes.)
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Yeah, but 5 seconds after I posted it, I remembered Chimera. 
CoH Codex : Demo Models/FX/MOVs : Demo Info
Arc 111022: "Doctor Geist and the Scientific Method"
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Statesman is an Incarnate, just like Lord Recluse. Statesman himself has said this. What an "Incarnate" is, is up to anyones guess.
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yeah, but that's a new AT, isn't it? if Statesman had said there would be a new origin coming out, and it would be Incarnate, it would mean that.
but i think with magic, natural, technology, science, and mutation, they pretty much have their bases covered, origin-wise, unless you're speaking of dual-origin heroes
i.e. someone could say the bulk of Wolverine (C) is dual, since he has good healing, but his bones are nearly unbreakable now, due to the adamantium, making him mutant/technology
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I have a question though. I was watching the DVD content with the movie ad for CoH. It shows Statesman over the course of several generations. Is it the same statesman and he's Immortal? or is it a title thats passed on under certain circomstances?
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It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
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I have a question though. I was watching the DVD content with the movie ad for CoH. It shows Statesman over the course of several generations. Is it the same statesman and he's Immortal? or is it a title thats passed on under certain circomstances?
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It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
~M
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Hopefully this is the fabled novel by keyboard god Robert Weinberg.
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P.S. For the poster who stated there was only red K, well, you are partly correct: there is still kryptonite, all colors and sorts, and over 100 pounds of the stuff is missing, presumably in the hands of a secret society of villians. Go read Countdown to Infinite Crisis (RIP Ted Kord).
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No, I said that it was just Red K that takes his powers. The 100 pounds of Kryptonite is in the hands of The new Red Hood, who is supposedly Jason Todd.
Go read a small fraction of the comics I do.
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Hey guys do you think you can stop with the spoilers. some people let their comics stack up for a couple of months before picking them up and reading them...
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I have a question though. I was watching the DVD content with the movie ad for CoH. It shows Statesman over the course of several generations. Is it the same statesman and he's Immortal? or is it a title thats passed on under certain circomstances?
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It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
~M
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There goes Stateslad's dreams of replacing him...
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er, on topic, I too would like to see "about this contact" or something on the trainer/TF npcs
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There is that option for the TF npcs, just not the trainers.
Yeah, I'd kinda like to be able to read about them too. Also... I wanna see Statesman in-game! You go to all that work saving him from Tyrant (who I agree is a wuss... although I did ding 50 for the first time dropping him, which was really cool), and all you get is a crappy little text-box saying he was free?
Oh, and just as a minor off-topic thing, the pink-haired guy who turns into a chibi in that Numa-Numa thing looks suspiciously like Sha Goyjo, from the Saiyuki mange/anime.
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I have a question though. I was watching the DVD content with the movie ad for CoH. It shows Statesman over the course of several generations. Is it the same statesman and he's Immortal? or is it a title thats passed on under certain circomstances?
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It is the same man, Statesman is immortal. Look for more details about his origin, his powers and how he is tied to Lord Recluse this fall in the upcoming novel: The Web of Arachnos.
~M
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There goes Stateslad's dreams of replacing him...
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He can always get killed...
Tygara - 50 Claws/Regen/Power Scrapper, Virtue- Member of Kitties on the Prowl.
Shadeburn - Dark/Rad Defender, Virtue- Member of Catch 'Em Crew
Nature Boy' - Elec/Ice Blaster, Virtue - Member of Young Phalanx
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Hey that's good comics, when they were fun, you know when heroes were heroes.
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Fun? You want fun? Dude, pickup some of the Early post-crisis Jstice League America/Justice League Europe.
BEFORE THEY KILLED TED! WHY TED?! WHYYYYYY?!
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Hmm, those look like the Charlton Comics Blue Beetle Issues in that pic. Kudos & cookies for anyone who can tell me how many Blue Beetles there were & who originally created the Scarab.
Double bonus: name a few of the most popular other Charlton Heroes, the shortest-lived one by the most famous artist AND the most obscure one.
I've been reading comics probably longer than most of you have been alive...
CoH Lore... Before the game was release it was my favourite subject, I collected anything that was blurbed out.
Surviving Eight... Eight of the Worlds greatest heroes, that survived the Rikti Invasion, who vowed on the honor of the fallen to continue to protect and rebuild Paragon City.
The following was released on Gamespy about a month and a half before game release on 1 April 2004...
Suriving Eight
The Statesman
A helmeted patriotic figure who's been around for many years. The Statesman remains an enigma, his origins unknown. We'll have to discover more about him from within the game itself.
Back Alley Brawler
Zone: King's Row
Secret Identity: Michael White
Origin: Natural
Archetype: Tanker
Primary Powers: Invulnerability, Super Strength
Background: Michael was the son of a gang enforcer. He joined the Paragon City police force to try and make a difference. When he realized that was not getting the job done he adopted the name and costume of a hero, the Back Alley Brawler. Michael used training techniques from all over the world to toughen his resistance and increase his strength. All through the late 70's and the 80's, he fought in the streets and alleys, of the city. The Brawler briefly went into retirement after that, but came back out to help with the Rikti war. Now he coordinates the efforts of heroes in King's Row.
Positron
Zone: Steel Canyon
Secret Identity: Dr. Raymond Keyes
Origin: Science
Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers: Energy Blast, Energy Manipulation
Background: Dr. Raymond Keyes developed a high-tech battle suit that allowed him to channel bolts of anti-matter into fierce attacks. He used his powers to help defeat the Rikti, but at a terrible cost-due to injuries he sustained at that time, he lost full control of his powers. Now, to protect others from himself, he remains imprisoned within his battle suit.
He is constantly searching for a cure for his condition, but that does not stop him from contributing to the defense of Paragon City and contributing many other technological breakthroughs for the good of all.
Synapse
Zone: Skyway City
Secret Identity: Steven Berry
Origin: Science
Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers: Electrical Blast, Electricity Manipulation, Superspeed
Background: Steven Berry was just an average man, until Crey Industries got hold of him. The Crey scientists were testing a number of radical procedures for inducing super powers. Steven was blasted with high doses of electricity for days. It amplified the electrical energy in his body, giving him the ability to harness it into super speed and electrical blasts. Synapse escaped Crey's clutches by shorting out the lab where he was kept prisoner. To this day, Crey executives deny any knowledge of the project in which Synapse was an unwilling participant.
Bastion
Zone: Talos Island
Secret Identity: None
Origin: Technological
Archetype: Tanker
Primary Powers: Invulnerability, Energy Melee
Background: Bastion was the very first android hero. In the initial Rikti onslaught, he took heavy damage, and was almost completely destroyed. With Positron's help, scientists at DATA created a second version of Bastion using the old model's original memory core and the remnants of a power suit, once worn by the hero Horatio. Bastion does not fully understand human ways, but he is a valiant defender of Paragon City.
Manticore
Zone: Brickstown
Secret Identity: Justin Sinclair
Origin: Natural
Archetype: Blaster
Primary Powers: Bow, Gadgets
Background: Justin Sinclair was raised in a huge mansion in the outskirts of Paragon City by his English nanny, Virginia Bowman. The sole beneficiary of a huge trust fund, Manticore received training in all manner of mental and physical pursuits, but excelled in archery. When he turned 18, Miss Bowman revealed to him his true heritage. Manticore's father had once been a costumed vigilante in England, until he and his wife died at the hands of a German villain called Doppelganger. Deeply affected by the story, Manticore took up his father's mantle and vowed to bring the 5th Column down.
Numina
Zone: Founder's Falls
Secret Identity: Tammy Arcanus
Origin: Magic
Archetype: Controller
Primary Powers: Mental Control, Empathy
Background: Numina was born Tammy Arcanus, daughter of Tommy Arcanus of the Midnight Squad. Tommy delved so deeply into the metaphysical that his very being was affected, and Tammy was born with magical powers. Early in her super-powered career, Tammy joined the Midnight Squad. In the 1960s, she and her team were sent into a series of caverns surrounding the Earth's molten core. It was there that the Red Threat, a Soviet villain, intended to destroy the world.
To save the Earth, Tammy possessed the body of the Red Threat. She minimized the damage, but her body was destroyed. Her consciousness survived, trapped within the Red Threat until he was killed in prison during the Rikti Invasion. Tammy's astral form was at last free. She renamed herself Numina and threw herself into the war against the Rikti. In the war's aftermath, Numina uses her abilities to nurture the next generation of heroes.
Sister Psyche
Zone: Independence Port
Secret Identity: Shalice Tilman
Origin: Mutant
Archetype: Controller
Primary Powers: Mind Control, Empathy
Background: Shalice Tilman was born with powerful mental powers. She used her psychic abilities to help defeat the Rikti. Her efforts during the Rikti War temporarily burned out her powers, and she fell into a coma. Since then she has shared the form of a young heroine, who is the current Sister Psyche. Only time will tell if Shalice will be able to return to her body.
Thier Sidekicks
Ms. Liberty
Zone: Atlas Park
Secret Identity: Jessica Duncan
Origin: Natural
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers: Martial Arts, Invulnerability
Background: Jessica is the granddaughter of Miss Liberty from the Golden Age. She has taken up the mantle to fight for freedom, in this specific case to free Paragon City from its infestation of villains. She has heightened strength and endurance as well as the power of the Liberty Belt, which was passed on to her by her grandmother.
Early in her career Ms. Liberty worked extensively with Statesman, but recently seems to be spending more time working on making certain that new heroes in Paragon City have the information they need, as well as working on the Freedom Corps. It is clear that she is determined to do her energetic best to make the Freedom Corps the premiere hero assistance group in Paragon City someday.
Valkyrie
Zone: Steel Canyon
Secret Identity: Valerie Kellum
Origin: Technology
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers: Spear, Regeneration
Background: Valerie Kellum was an up and coming Archeologist exploring Scandinavia when she discovered what she first took for an ancient spear. A more careful examination led to the realization that the spear had a technological component. She traveled around Europe looking for ideas about its origin and ended up in a local Crey facility. When a Crey security team tried to take the weapon from her it activated and injected Valerie with advanced nanites that transformed her into Valkyrie, an extraordinary warrior with a completely different personality. She broke free and traveled to Paragon City where Positron is helping her come to terms with her new identity.
Minx
Zone: Skyway City
Secret Identity: Katherine Steffan
Origin: Science
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers: Claws, Super Reflexes
Background: Katherine Stevens was a young girl in the wrong place at the wrong time. While attending Paragon City University, she volunteered for a Crey research project. When the Crey research scientists realized that she had no family and few friends, they decided to try some of their more dangerous procedures on her. A volatile serum transformed Katherine and gave her some feline features and characteristics. Crey considered the result a failure because Katherine could not be controlled. She managed to break free of her captors, scarring the face of one of Crey's top Scientists horribly with her claws.
Adopting the identity Minx, Katherine lived on the streets or Paragon City for a time. She got involved in petty crimes to keep herself alive. Synapse discovered her there and helped her develop control of her heightened reflexes and her animalistic nature. She is still undisciplined and prone to overconfidence but is fiercely loyal to Synapse and grateful for the second chance he has given her.
Malaise
Zone: Independence Port
Secret Identity: Jean-Pierre Lourdin
Origin: Mutant
Archetype: Controller
Primary Powers: Illusion Control, Kinetics
Background: Jean-Pierre Lourdin was not always a hero. He began his career as a villain in Europe, using the twisted images in his mind to commit robberies. With INTERPOL hot on his trail he landed in Paragon City, where his broken thoughts were detected by Sister Psyche. She confronted him and after an intense battle was able to subdue him.
She spent months healing the damage to his mind and has taught him more productive uses of his abilities. Sister Psyche vouched for him with the authorities and he has been allowed to help with the current crisis in Paragon City. Many are keeping a watchful eye on Malaise, however, for signs of his madness returning.
Luminary
Zone: Talos Island
Secret Identity: None
Origin: Technology
Archetype: Defender
Primary Powers: Radiation Emission, Radiation Blast
Background: The original Luminary is Kit Rafter. He retired from the Freedom Phalanx in 1995 to become the spokesperson for Hero Corps. At his wedding, Positron presented Kit and his new wife Jeanette with the ultimate wedding present: a new android modeled after Jeanette with powers similar to Kit's. This next generation heroine was the new Luminary, carrying on Kit's fine tradition under the watchful eye of Bastion. Her systems were all more advanced than Bastion's, making her the state of the art in android technology.
The new Luminary has recently shown signs of developing a strong personality. It has caused Positron some concern that it seems similar to Jeanette's. He has performed many tests on her but has not determined the cause.
Swan
Zone: Brickstown
Secret Identity: Lena Elliot
Origin: Magic
Archetype: Defender
Primary Powers: Force Field, Psychic Blast
Background: Lena Elliot was touched by magic from the moment she was born on the Vernal Equinox. Her life seemed almost charmed; she grew up happy, did well in school and loved her parents very much. Everything she tried she seemed to succeed at. There was a reason for her good fortune. Both her parents were powerful mystics, and performed a ceremony to bless Lena's birth.
Shortly after her 21st birthday the Elliot's luck ran out. They got caught in the middle of a battle between the Circle of Thorns and the 5th Column. The groups were seeking a pair of rings that had been in the Elliot family for generations. Lena's powers manifested and she instinctively threw a protective shield up around herself and her parents. Manticore had been following the 5th Column group and came to the Elliot's aid. The battle was going poorly when Lena lashed out with her psychic abilities, stunning many of the villains. Manticore mopped up the rest, but not before the 5th Column managed to escape with Lena's parents.
Manticore offered Lena the chance to fight at his side and she jumped at the opportunity. As Swan, she aids him in his relentless war against the 5th Column, in the hopes that one day she will find her parents alive.
Infernal
Zone: Founder's Falls
Secret Identity: K'Varr D'Shall
Origin: Magic
Archetype: Tanker
Primary Powers: Fiery Aura, Battle Axe
Background: K'Varr D'Shall was the most skilled demon binder in the Order of the Crimson Lotus, on an alternate Earth. His order bound demons into their weapons and armor, in order to keep Infernal Earth from being overrun by them. They were maintaining and uneasy peace until K'Varr's best friend T'Keron grew jealous of his comrade's power and skill. T'Keron attempted to bind Valmaz, Lord of Demons but lost control of the ceremony. K'Varr arrived to help his friend, but it was too late. K'Varr, T'Keron and Valmaz were all drawn through a dimensional rip caused by the binding ceremony onto Primal Earth, our Earth. T'Keron and the Demon Lord were bound together by the potent mystic forces.
The ways of our world are strange to K'Varr but Numina is assisting him in becoming acclimated and beginning his search for the unholy fusion of T'Keron and Valmaz.
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Valkyrie
Zone: Steel Canyon
Secret Identity: Valerie Kellum
Origin: Technology
Archetype: Scrapper
Primary Powers: Spear, Regeneration
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What are the chances that the novel and CoV will come out around the same time? Do I smell tie in? or just dirty laundry :-\