For those who say fighting for something is wrong

Master_Aeo · 11-23-2004 01:23 PM

Totally off-topic, and maybe I just say this in a PM but Intel_Inside, your new Avatar ROCKS!!! Not just that but also judging off of the mods you created (oops.....can't talk about that er.......ixnay on the modsnay) I must say you have quite a natural affinity and eye for design. You should seriously consider getting into game design........States? You guys hiring?

Pinnacle-
Hell-Sent - 42 Fire/Axe (returned from the Ashes!! Thanks Statesman)
Dockta Shock- 31 Elec/Dev Blaster

ProfessorEntropy · 11-23-2004 03:55 PM

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There is no need to nerf scrapper damg resist. We only get the same damg resist as tankers if we SLOT THE HELL out of the powers like RPD/TI/Tough so that we do get it. Which means we have to neglect other stuff for it. It's a give and take. We sacrifice needed slots for more damg resist. Theres no need to nerf Scrappers.

Besides. Scrappers really don't start to get UBER until the veryyy late game. I'd say about 41+ is when there uberness really becomes apparant. By that time you're so close to end game it really doesn't matter.

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Quoted for emphasis!!!!!!!! No Nerfing please!!!!

McFist · 11-23-2004 04:51 PM

I appreciate the sentiments, Hell-Sent, but I'm just a hack who loves MMP's.

Cuppa_Lux · 11-24-2004 10:37 AM

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Dang straight. Post your ideas/thought/opinions. I read 'em - and so does the design team. And I'm not such a prima donna that I can't go back on a past decision and eat some crow.

The most important thing is the quality of the game. That's it. Everything else is secondary (including ego's).

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Good, now how about putting the 5th Column back?

Infernus_Hades · 11-24-2004 10:40 AM

He replied on that - it was not political correctness it was normal story progression for Paragon. So they need to move the game along and some groups will get changed or phased out.

tontonUB · 11-24-2004 11:25 AM

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Dang straight. Post your ideas/thought/opinions. I read 'em - and so does the design team. And I'm not such a prima donna that I can't go back on a past decision and eat some crow.

The most important thing is the quality of the game. That's it. Everything else is secondary (including ego's).

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blah
punched all of us in face
so damn true

explain why COH is COH
why i left stupidly a few days, wrongly believing COH was as bad and dumb_patched every 3 week as [censored]* (*put the name of a lot of MMO )

just hope we wont have to wait too long now
still p...ed by dummy damage, excessive endurance drain and lack of status protection with no drawback ( integration like power..)

/applaude (no irony here....saying this on a public forum require more courage , abnegation and modesty than most of peoples have)

nugget69 · 11-24-2004 04:46 PM

will be changing burn to its former version?? what does that mean?? I think its perfect the way it is. I have a lvl 28 fire/ss tanker. I also have a lvl 34 blaster. I absolutly love my tanker. personally i dont understand why you would want to change anything.

McFist · 11-24-2004 04:55 PM

Actually, the former, former burn was uber and overpowered. Former burn is not current burn only it becomes former burn after the new current burn replaces it in Issue 3, but since the current burn is being shown the door, the former burn is remaining the current burn.

So no worries.

_Ilr_ · 11-24-2004 09:05 PM

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I am going to quote you, a lot.

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Yeah! ...not about Egos??
I'm still not even convinced that our Jack Emmert is actually a Game Designer, or even human. ...But more like a Forest Gump type real-life human-cartoon character but with a much more cynical/antogonistic agenda and just lives to prove people wrong and this whole game is just a continuing scheme to revel in that vice. If a Doctor told him he's going to die in 4 months, Jack would be there at the Doctor's funeral 40 years later just to say "In your Face!".

Protonic_Flux · 11-24-2004 10:05 PM

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alright - now that was cool States. Now please someone acknowledge that Unstopp to blasters has the ability to alter the balance of the future of this game.

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Umm, blasters cant get unstoppable till lvl 47. So your worried that the game mechanics from 47 to 50 will be ruined?

'If Champions Online is what "CoH was supposed to be", I'm glad that I have what I have rather than "what it was supposed to be".' - The Alt oholic
"I solo'd Hamidon...but I also totally cheated." - Back Alley Brawler
"It is still early. Someone is going to get stabbed tonight I can feel it." - Ishmael (said in Jello Shooters chat)

DMarkell · 11-24-2004 10:08 PM

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alright - now that was cool States. Now please someone acknowledge that Unstopp to blasters has the ability to alter the balance of the future of this game.

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Umm, blasters cant get unstoppable till lvl 47. So your worried that the game mechanics from 47 to 50 will be ruined?

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Yes, that's right. PvP is coming. The level cap will eventually be raised beyond 50. Etc. Saying "it's only from 47-50" is very short-sighted. This has the potential to massively affect the future of the game.

mackdaddie · 11-26-2004 09:51 PM

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Dang straight. Post your ideas/thought/opinions. I read 'em - and so does the design team. And I'm not such a prima donna that I can't go back on a past decision and eat some crow.

The most important thing is the quality of the game. That's it. Everything else is secondary (including ego's).

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Thanks for the fine post. And Michael, thanks for the excellent, positive post. Be happy that this dev team is as pro-active as they are, because it's a rarity in MMO's.

TANKS RULE!!!!

Capt. Impervious

TargetLad · 11-28-2004 09:10 AM

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alright - now that was cool States. Now please someone acknowledge that Unstopp to blasters has the ability to alter the balance of the future of this game.

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Umm, blasters cant get unstoppable till lvl 47. So your worried that the game mechanics from 47 to 50 will be ruined?

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Yes, that's right. PvP is coming. The level cap will eventually be raised beyond 50. Etc. Saying "it's only from 47-50" is very short-sighted. This has the potential to massively affect the future of the game.

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Regarding the line I've bolded: Source, please.

TargetLad!

DMarkell · 11-28-2004 09:50 AM

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alright - now that was cool States. Now please someone acknowledge that Unstopp to blasters has the ability to alter the balance of the future of this game.

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Umm, blasters cant get unstoppable till lvl 47. So your worried that the game mechanics from 47 to 50 will be ruined?

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Yes, that's right. PvP is coming. The level cap will eventually be raised beyond 50. Etc. Saying "it's only from 47-50" is very short-sighted. This has the potential to massively affect the future of the game.

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Regarding the line I've bolded: Source, please.

TargetLad!

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Source: Statesman himself. He said it's not a priority, that it's not going to happen for awhile (probably not until after CoV), but that it will eventually be raised. This was quite a while back; I can't find the quote anymore. It's probably been purged from the forums.

protector_knight · 06-23-2008 03:33 PM

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Dang straight. Post your ideas/thought/opinions. I read 'em - and so does the design team. And I'm not such a prima donna that I can't go back on a past decision and eat some crow.

The most important thing is the quality of the game. That's it. Everything else is secondary (including ego's).

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So some of these idea's on giving invun's slight buffs to the passives, like modest endurance drain resistance.

Modest slow resistance. Also that 5% debuff to Unyielding?

No one wants anything big, just modest alterations.

Any word on that happening?

protector-knight: lvl 50 invun/axe tank
Lillian Brick: lvl 50 stone/stone/pyre tank
Hybrid-knight: lvl 50 db/regen scrap
Vengful-Nature: lvl 50 spines/sr/bod scrap
Element-Wizard: lvl 50 fire/storm/stone troll

Electronite · 06-23-2008 03:38 PM

11/28/04 to 6/23/08

Now that's some major thread necromancy there...

protector_knight · 06-23-2008 03:40 PM

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11/28/04 to 6/23/08

Now that's some major thread necromancy there...

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Hehe gawsh I am being dumb today. I think I am going to log off.

protector-knight: lvl 50 invun/axe tank
Lillian Brick: lvl 50 stone/stone/pyre tank
Hybrid-knight: lvl 50 db/regen scrap
Vengful-Nature: lvl 50 spines/sr/bod scrap
Element-Wizard: lvl 50 fire/storm/stone troll

Freight_Train · 06-23-2008 04:15 PM

I think this thread is hungry for brains Major Necro lol!

50 Invuln/SS Tank/EM

The Martyrs of Paragon/Fallen Martyrs

protector_knight · 06-23-2008 05:18 PM

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I think this thread is hungry for brains Major Necro lol!

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Was Statemen on the cryptic side or NCsoft? Or did he transfer over?

Is he even a dev for this game anymore?

protector-knight: lvl 50 invun/axe tank
Lillian Brick: lvl 50 stone/stone/pyre tank
Hybrid-knight: lvl 50 db/regen scrap
Vengful-Nature: lvl 50 spines/sr/bod scrap
Element-Wizard: lvl 50 fire/storm/stone troll

Hesh · 06-23-2008 05:24 PM

ARISE!

-Hesh

38 FF/Sonic Def
35 Ill/Storm
35 DM/Regen
1 pan of fresh brownies/gallon of milk

Cycloid · 06-23-2008 08:18 PM

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I think this thread is hungry for brains Major Necro lol!

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Was Statemen on the cryptic side or NCsoft? Or did he transfer over?

Is he even a dev for this game anymore?

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Statesman is one of the five founders of Cryptic Studios and is still there. He may not have gone to NC NorCal, but his memory lives on...in this positively antediluvian thread.

For what it's worth, his statement that ideas will reach the team through the forums is still true, so post away! Just do it in a newer thread, maybe.

General_Axis · 06-23-2008 08:29 PM

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BRAAAAAAAAAAAAINS

How did this thread avoid FOUR YEARS of purging?

Also...how the hell did it end up on the first page to get posted on? This should be hundreds of pages back.

BRAAAAAAAAAAINS

Heulengeist · 06-23-2008 11:38 PM

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How did this thread avoid FOUR YEARS of purging?

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Same way they all do. Red Name post means purging ist verboten!!

Johnny_Butane · 06-24-2008 03:26 AM

For all his enthusiasm and talk of them being the heart and soul of the game, Jack's concept of Tankers didn't jive with a lot of people.

He seemed to want them to be even more meatshieldy than they are currently, while at the same time having less damage AND lower over all survivability.

I know. That makes no sense, but that's the concept that was being pushed for the longest time.

The Stamina concerns were never fully taken care of. Most non-WP Tankers are STILL forced into Fitness, even with IO sets that grant +recovery.

His posts make it sound like he was pulling for Tankers, at least in his own mind. It would be nice now to have a dev in our corner. BaB claims to be a Tanker, but he exerts ZERO creative control beyond trying to convince his friend of something. The rest of the current devs seem to range from simply ignoring them to being outright anti-Tankers.

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Electronite · 06-24-2008 03:30 AM

THat's just your tinfoil hat talking again.