Confessions
I successfully trolled GG and had a post made in my honor.
....to this day, I regret I fell for the bait. Being an anti-troll troll still makes you a troll.
Oh, also: back in olden Hami Raid times, I would totally AFK for the free Hami-O. I sorry.
If you saw the builds for any of my characters, you would have to assume that I don't know what the hell I'm doing. (And you're probably not far off.)
I usually skip Taunt/Confront...and even if I have the powers, I rarely use them. (This might be a side effect of being a predominantly solo player.) None of my characters have Tough or Weave. I leave Brawl and Sprint in the bottom row of my power tray, because that's what I'm used to. I take the direct attack powers with Masterminds. I prefer using full IO sets to frankenslotting, because I just can't be bothered. I've made all of three macros ever, only one of which was actually useful (that being the "target nearest Lifegiving Essence" in the DD iTrial.)
And yet, to the best of my knowledge, I have never been kicked off a team for searing incompetence. (Being a jerk, yes. That's happened a couple of times. But they had it coming.)
Total Characters: 120
Lowest Level: 1, Luke Johnson (Staff/WP Brute, Virtue)
If you saw the builds for any of my characters, you would have to assume that I don't know what the hell I'm doing. (And you're probably not far off.)
I usually skip Taunt/Confront...and even if I have the powers, I rarely use them. (This might be a side effect of being a predominantly solo player.) None of my characters have Tough or Weave. I leave Brawl and Sprint in the bottom row of my power tray, because that's what I'm used to. I take the direct attack powers with Masterminds. I prefer using full IO sets to frankenslotting, because I just can't be bothered. I've made all of three macros ever, only one of which was actually useful (that being the "target nearest Lifegiving Essence" in the DD iTrial.) And yet, to the best of my knowledge, I have never been kicked off a team for searing incompetence. (Being a jerk, yes. That's happened a couple of times. But they had it coming.) |
Tough is good if you have the slots and endurance. Weave is skippable unless you have a LOT of powers and slots free. :0
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"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
Hat trick!
"You don't lose levels. You don't have equipment to wear out, repair, or lose, or that anyone can steal from you. About the only thing lighter than debt they could do is have an NPC walk by, point and laugh before you can go to the hospital or base." -Memphis_Bill
We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
I usually skip Taunt/Confront...and even if I have the powers, I rarely use them. (This might be a side effect of being a predominantly solo player.)
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IMO, with the advent of the Gauntlet mechanic, an attentive Tanker could be a pretty good meat shield even without it in standard content. You could certainly be a better meatshield with it, but this game is easy enough for the most part that "better" really doesn't mean that much.
So I would forgive you this confession.
If you wanted to be able to manage aggro in some of the game's more challenging content, such as Hamidon raids or iTrials, then yes, you probably needed a decently slotted Taunt.
Other than one particular crusader who claimed otherwise here on the forums, I never met anyone who thought Confront was important. Most people I talked to or read opinions of on it considered it a wasted power pick at worst and a set bonus mule at best. Most of those I met who had Confront took it for concept reasons. I'm being completely literal when I say I believe I saw a Scrapper with Taunt less than 10 times in my 8+ years here. It might have even been less than 5 times, but I am less confident that's true.
So for this confession I grin and tell you no one cared.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
You've clearly never had to put up with Shamster, regardless of AT. He plays them all the same way. He can get aggro with mindless button smashing after he's run off to large groups away from the team; if he isn't insta-gibbed (which he generally is), he'll limply bring them back to the group and either die anyway or suck down all inspirs he has to repeat the same mindlessness. But retaining aggro / taking aggro is not his forte (4Chan linking takes that spot). And he primarily teams.
I've already forgotten about most of you
Eh. My tanker didn't take taunt until level 49 and the STF came out; if it wasn't for that TF he wouldn't even have it.
Tough is good if you have the slots and endurance. Weave is skippable unless you have a LOT of powers and slots free. :0 |
On the tankers with taunt, I might have used it twice for one tank? And four times for another even though after a respec I never even put the taunt back into the tray then respec again and got rid of it and did the same for the other tank. Although I mostly soloed. Even on teams, the game wasnt that hard nor complicated and there were very few times that I needed to use it and teams for the most part didnt even realize when I had taunt or the difference after I got rid of taunt. It was a wasted power slot for what I was doing and playstyle for me.
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We will honor the past, and fight to the last, it will be a good way to die...
My level 50 energy blaster once used Energy Thrust on a level 1 Hellion in Atlas Park just to watch him fly.
I find your lack of signature disturbing.
You know, next to herding and blasting every foe on the map, what I miss second to that is herding every foe on the map and then confusing all of them.
You've clearly never had to put up with Shamster, regardless of AT. He plays them all the same way. He can get aggro with mindless button smashing after he's run off to large groups away from the team; if he isn't insta-gibbed (which he generally is), he'll limply bring them back to the group and either die anyway or suck down all inspirs he has to repeat the same mindlessness. But retaining aggro / taking aggro is not his forte (4Chan linking takes that spot). And he primarily teams.
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I only have one Tanker. He's been stuck at 43 for years now because I got into other characters more, but back when I still actively played him, I saw a team that was running the original Maria Jenkins arc advertising one open spot. I wanted to join them for the AV progress so that I could unlock Portal Jockey on my Tanker.
However, the team was advertising specifically for a Tanker. (This was long before Going Rogue, so a Brute wasn't an option.) I didn't want to sign up for that knowing I lacked Taunt, so I didn't reply. However, they kept advertising, apparently not getting any hits, so I finally responded to the person saying I was on a Tanker and would like to join, but I also warned him I had no Taunt, and would not be offended if he'd rather find someone who had it. The leader said he didn't mind and invited me.
Knowing they were hoping for a meatshield, I made a point of being as "tanky" as I could, running around and smacking stuff in an effort to keep them PO'd thanks to Gauntlet. That seemed to go well in terms of my soaking aggro, though I sometimes missed being able to actually Taunt when we were fighting fliers or really anything I couldn't readily reach in melee.
When the team finally disbanded after completing the arc, several players on the team made a point of complimenting my tanking given my communicated lack of Taunt.
Like I said up-thread, I have no illusions about whether a Tanker with Taunt paying at least as much attention to aggro control as I was doing would have done a better job. And, trust me, I almost never play the tank - I am sure others can do it better than I did, even without Taunt. With Taunt, they probably could have done at least as good as I did with less manic play needed to hold aggro. But based on that experience, which involved what used to be fairly top-end content outside of raids (and later, trials), I think it shows that Taunt is very nice to have, but not necessary. (Again, outside of Hamidon raids and maybe iTrials.)
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
My level 50 energy blaster once used Energy Thrust on a level 1 Hellion in Atlas Park just to watch him fly.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Total Characters: 120
Lowest Level: 1, Luke Johnson (Staff/WP Brute, Virtue)
I've heard this referred to as "Hellion golf" (FORE!) and can confirm that it is excellent for (as one forum poster once put it) industrial-level stress relief.
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Some of it has to do with a particular catgirl who has been in one of the global channels I've lived in for ages now, but I always read the Incarnate Salvage "Arcane Cantrip" as "Arcane Catnip".
Not that I actually misread it. That's how I say it out loud on Skype, etc., when saying it to other people. I think the best part is that everyone has always known what I meant.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA