Sentinel+ character extractor: Here it is!


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*cries a little*

Thank you, Titan Network, for this and for all your efforts.

And thank you to EVERYONE, in game and out, for all the love and efforts to save this community of ours.

Here's hoping. *crosses fingers*


 

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Originally Posted by Fennec View Post
Try right-click on the Sentinel program and run as admin.
That did it, although I'm not sure why, as the account I use is an administrator. Set the 'run as administrator' flag in properties, and aside from the stupid UAC prompt, it seems to be working correctly now.


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Originally Posted by srmalloy View Post
That did it, although I'm not sure why, as the account I use is an administrator. Set the 'run as administrator' flag in properties, and aside from the stupid UAC prompt, it seems to be working correctly now.
If you accepted the UAC prompt when NC Launcher starts (or any other it might have brought up), then City of Heroes got started as an elevated process. An unelevated process can't poke and prod an elevated process, so you would have to run Sentinel Plus as an elevated process as well for it to gather the data.


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That did it, although I'm not sure why, as the account I use is an administrator. Set the 'run as administrator' flag in properties, and aside from the stupid UAC prompt, it seems to be working correctly now.
Just to amplify, running under an administrator is not the same thing as running as an administrative elevated role. Even accounts with administrative rights can run processes with and without elevated permissions.


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That did it, although I'm not sure why, as the account I use is an administrator. Set the 'run as administrator' flag in properties, and aside from the stupid UAC prompt, it seems to be working correctly now.
As Arcana stated, stupid UAC is the root of the problem. Microsoft knows best(TM).


 

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As Arcana stated, stupid UAC is the root of the problem. Microsoft knows best(TM).
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As Arcana stated, stupid UAC is the root of the problem. Microsoft knows best(TM).
It's funny, I have never had a problem with UAC. I actually like that they added it. At risk of uttering blasphemy, it reminds me of the "switch to root to do this?" prompts you get in many modern Linux distro UIs. (Edit: to be clear, I know it's not as good in many ways.)

But then, I am very proficient with multiple OSes, so maybe the idea is just natural enough to me, and I know enough about where to find all the knobs and switches, that it was easy for me to adapt to and use. I would never claim it's easy for a non-expert user to know how to make UAC happy for programs that it doesn't play well with.


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Thanks so much for making a tool like this available. I haven't had a chance to use it yet as I'm on a mac and need to get on my PC, but it's great to know that I'll be able to save details of all my characters even if the game turns off completely on November 30th.


 

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yeah not going VIP again just to use this

Deleted the game anyway


 

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I have not done all my toons yet but I did about 30you of my main ones. This program works really well and saves all info on a character in like 2 seconds. Thank You for this awesome program.


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yeah not going VIP again just to use this

Deleted the game anyway
Well, it's not like you can go VIP now, not when they shut down the Paragon Market and billing system ...

You might not need to worry about paying to go VIP though; some of Paragon Studios' employees have said they're negotiating possibly making everyone a VIP for the duration, free of charge. All you'd need to do then is just reinstall the game.


 

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Program worked fine for me all except 2 characters there 50 and i dont want to lose them.

I tried logging them into different zones and i get this ERROR Could not open file for output:name of toon

Strange it only happened with 2 toons
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The question mark is a reserved character in the Windows file system; I wasn't aware that it could be used in character names. The same would hold true for colons, slashes and asterisks, if those are allowed as well.

If anyone else has troubles with special characters in character names, let me know.
I'll get to work on an update to the utility.
It also applies to apostrophes. My global has an apostrophe, as do a few of my characters. But since I have an apostrophe in my global, I cannot save any of my toons.

I'll keep my eyes peeled for the update.

Thanks for putting this together.


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Er, how does Paragon Studios feel about this program?

And if another pro publisher bought out the IP and PS, I would think they would not allow character imports due to both the potential for hacking and the fact that those who didn't use it would be starting from scratch, which would make for extremely imbalanced new servers both team-wise and economy-wise. Newbies wouldn't stand a chance in the market.

I'd like Zwill's and Positron's/War Witch's/other PS's take on this.


 

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Er, how does Paragon Studios feel about this program?

And if another pro publisher bought out the IP and PS, I would think they would not allow character imports due to both the potential for hacking and the fact that those who didn't use it would be starting from scratch, which would make for extremely imbalanced new servers both team-wise and economy-wise. Newbies wouldn't stand a chance in the market.

I'd like Zwill's and Positron's/War Witch's/other PS's take on this.
Don't expect to be able to simply import characters into new servers (if private servers ever come about, some might allow imports). This is more so an archival copy, so you'll have all the info about your characters (build, badges, profile, costume, etc) in one place. It's so you'll have the info for when later tools are developed. Even if all you'll be able to do in the future is just look over your characters again.

Considering that it never seemed like Paragon had any problem with the prior incarnations of Titan Sentinel (which would already extract your badges and builds), I doubt they'll have even a slight problem with this utility.


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And if another pro publisher bought out the IP and PS, I would think they would not allow character imports due to both the potential for hacking and the fact that those who didn't use it would be starting from scratch, which would make for extremely imbalanced new servers both team-wise and economy-wise. Newbies wouldn't stand a chance in the market.
If another publisher picks up the IP, I doubt these exports will have relevance. Either that publisher would let us have some form of consistency with existing characters (extremely desirable, IMO, or they'd probably lose a lot of players off the bat), or they would start from scratch.

That's not what this is for. This is for the possibility that the IP is stuffed in a vault at NCSoft somewhere, and we have to resort to community tools to experience CoH in some possibly limited degree from then on. Depending on the community's level of success, this could range from programs that let us view saved characters off-line to full, community-driven servers. The higher we set our sights there, the longer and harder it's going to be to pull it off, but at this point, everything is at least theoretically on the table.


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Want.

For.

Mac.



Kudos guys for making this (and everything else you've been doing for the game) but oh my gawd, I want this app badly... I hate the idea of my characters fading into the ether...


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Hey all, just bumping this post to announce the release of Sentinel+ Extractor, now with Guy Perfect Tested and Approved Bug Fixes and Feature Updates™! This addresses a few issues we've seen reported. See the top link (OP) or the change log at the download page for changes and updates.


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Hey all, just bumping this post to announce the release of Sentinel+ Extractor, now with Guy Perfect Tested and Approved Bug Fixes and Feature Updates™! This addresses a few issues we've seen reported. See the top link (OP) or the change log at the download page for changes and updates.
Do I need to delete and replace, or will it overwrite?

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Delete the old EXE and download the new one.


 

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Do I need to delete and replace, or will it overwrite?
If you mean the XML files, it will overwrite.


 

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It also applies to apostrophes. My global has an apostrophe, as do a few of my characters. But since I have an apostrophe in my global, I cannot save any of my toons.
Odd. The apostrophe is allowed in filenames on every filesystem that Windows supports, and I didn't have any trouble exporting characters with apostrophes in their names.


 

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Tony & Guy -

I am still having the problem where it doesn't think the game/character is online when trying a character with an apostrophe in her name. Have updated to newest version, and had no problem with characters without special characters.


 

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Originally Posted by shadow35 View Post
Er, how does Paragon Studios feel about this program?

And if another pro publisher bought out the IP and PS, I would think they would not allow character imports due to both the potential for hacking and the fact that those who didn't use it would be starting from scratch, which would make for extremely imbalanced new servers both team-wise and economy-wise. Newbies wouldn't stand a chance in the market.

I'd like Zwill's and Positron's/War Witch's/other PS's take on this.
No real potential for hacking. The file is checksummed, so if there's even one bit modified it'll fail the checksum.


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