Lore AMA... coming soon...ish
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Ace_of_Hearts,
Posted on: 2012-09-05 05:42 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
So it's the 12th. Any word on this happening still?
when its done, would be my guess. there is a LOT of info thats been requested. Takes time, even if Posi can mostly cut paste to keep from having his fingers ground down to nubbinz
Yeah, not demanding "WHERE IS IT? WHY IS IT NOT DONE?" But the 12th was announced as a date so, a lil heads up, even just a 'getting delayed' would probably be warranted.
my hope is that one of the things they're waiting for is a final "definitive" answer on whether there's ANY hope that the game may continue in some form. After all, answering all of this now cramps any future story plans they had in the works, so they wouldn't want to do that if there's even the possibility that the game will be bought out or continued in some form.
So the fact that they haven't answered means there are workings behind the scene to keep the game alive and they're looking like they're succeeding!!!!
At least, thinking that way makes me feel better, so that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
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Funny, that's how the story goes in my head too! I was just coming here to write something very similar.
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Originally Posted by opprime28
my hope is that one of the things they're waiting for is a final "definitive" answer on whether there's ANY hope that the game may continue in some form. After all, answering all of this now cramps any future story plans they had in the works, so they wouldn't want to do that if there's even the possibility that the game will be bought out or continued in some form.
So the fact that they haven't answered means there are workings behind the scene to keep the game alive and they're looking like they're succeeding!!!! At least, thinking that way makes me feel better, so that's my story and I'm stickin' to it! :-D |
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Even if they don't get a definitive answer on that, I think there are some answers that are less spoilerish than others.
Like, let's assume, for a moment, that the identity of The Letter Writer still hadn't been revealed (SPOILER: we know who it is now!) I wouldn't expect them to answer that if there was still much chance. However, if someone was to ask something smaller about a connection between different gangs (Sky Raiders and Family, for instance), then I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
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While that would be insanely efficient at eliminating at least one major threat, the potential destruction were either successful at claiming the other's power would be catastrophic. I don't see Dream Doctor, who in all our encounters with him comes across as a careful, methodical planner who doesn't like to move until he has covered all the possibilities, taking so huge a risk as to put PraeHami inside a temporal nexus with some incarnation of Nemesis.|
Originally Posted by Zombieluvr
Would be kind of a trip if Dream Doctor's method for removing Hamidon from Praetoria and bringing down Ouroboros was to trap the one in the other.
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That IS a spectacular thought, though.
... Dream Doc. Who's lines include "You do have feet, dont you?" and that whole Tekklu incident in the middle of his arc in DA?
Not exactly what I'd call examples of careful methodious planning. Okay mostly he'd been planning in relation to The Comming storm and Mot caught him off guard, but STILL. He flat out says "I'm improvising here" several times during the times you work with him directly.
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Not to mention, wasn't trapping Rularuu in the shard sort of a misstep on his part too, causing far more destruction of that dimension than he expected? For some reason I thought his creation of the shadow shard ended up killing tons of people trapped there.
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Originally Posted by Star Ranger 4
... Dream Doc. Who's lines include "You do have feet, dont you?" and that whole Tekklu incident in the middle of his arc in DA?
Not exactly what I'd call examples of careful methodious planning. Okay mostly he'd been planning in relation to The Comming storm and Mot caught him off guard, but STILL. He flat out says "I'm improvising here" several times during the times you work with him directly. |
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Originally Posted by opprime28
Not to mention, wasn't trapping Rularuu in the shard sort of a misstep on his part too, causing far more destruction of that dimension than he expected? For some reason I thought his creation of the shadow shard ended up killing tons of people trapped there.
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He intended to kill Rularuu, and was just about to do it, too. But Mender Silos intervened in the background, depowering the Dagger of Jocas so that it would simply seal Rularuu instead of outright kill him. So blame that one on Silos.
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which proves just how much of it was ALL A NEMISIS PLOT!!!
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Originally Posted by Xzero45
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He intended to kill Rularuu, and was just about to do it, too. But Mender Silos intervened in the background, depowering the Dagger of Jocas so that it would simply seal Rularuu instead of outright kill him. So blame that one on Silos. |
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Originally Posted by Star Ranger 4
which proves just how much of it was ALL A NEMISIS PLOT!!!
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A lot of recent lore's been pretty lazy or hamfisted like that.
Were there ever any plans for a Freakshow centcar or sportaur?
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Is Mortimer Kal a Shadow of Oberon?
(If others don't get the reference, my apologies, but I am certain that Posi will.)
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Originally Posted by Kurrent
I don't see Dream Doctor, who in all our encounters with him comes across as a careful, methodical planner who doesn't like to move until he has covered all the possibilities, taking so huge a risk as to put PraeHami inside a temporal nexus with some incarnation of Nemesis.
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It does remind me of something- Nemesis' final thoughts about feeling bad about something happening to Dream Doctor in the future during DD's personal story in DA.
So maybe it was a plan that doesn't turn out quite the way it was supposed to...
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bumping. Any update on the progress of this?
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Originally Posted by Agent White
Yeah, not demanding "WHERE IS IT? WHY IS IT NOT DONE?" But the 12th was announced as a date so, a lil heads up, even just a 'getting delayed' would probably be warranted.
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Not sure if this thing is still open for questions or not, but a question that's always bugged me:
Early in the development of CoV, we were told villains could join one of two villain factions, one existing faction and one new one. We got the new faction (Arachnos which was at one point SPIDER or SPYDER or something) but no existing villain faction was made joinable. I've always assumed the other playable faction was the 5th Column, and that the faction's impending playability was part of the reason its thematics were tuned away from WWII mass murdering racial supremacists, replaced by the Council. Was I correct on either point?
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Kind of. The former dev Manticore went into this topic in detail a long while back. Originally, while it was still in the planning stages, CoV was supposed to have you create a member of the various villainous factions found throughout the game; Arachnos, Freakshow, Carnival, etc. Because the devs didn't want players being Nazis, they decided to sunset the 5th Column and have the Council, a more vaguely fascist organization, take their place.|
Originally Posted by Dementor_NA
Not sure if this thing is still open for questions or not, but a question that's always bugged me:
Early in the development of CoV, we were told villains could join one of two villain factions, one existing faction and one new one. We got the new faction (Arachnos which was at one point SPIDER or SPYDER or something) but no existing villain faction was made joinable. I've always assumed the other playable faction was the 5th Column, and that the faction's impending playability was part of the reason its thematics were tuned away from WWII mass murdering racial supremacists, replaced by the Council. Was I correct on either point? |
But then those plans were tossed and the devs decided to let us make our own villains the way we want to. By then, though, resources were already spent on introducing the Council and their takeover, so they just continued to roll with that. The only reason they were brought back is because the group was still popular with the players, despite being gone for years.
Why does the sunrise/sunset go E/W, but moonrise/moonset is off by 90 degrees (N/S)?
How does the earth's rotation work with this configuration?
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Moonbase Alpha's records were destroyed in the explosion so we're not sure how it started, but Paragon's heroes were able to keep the moon from escaping entirely.|
Originally Posted by Domin8
Why does the sunrise/sunset go E/W, but moonrise/moonset is off by 90 degrees (N/S)?
How does the earth's rotation work with this configuration? |
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Could we get an explanation for why the Moon rises in the South and sets in the North, at an almost 90° angle to its proper orbit? And how it was done without causing massive tidal effects that would have devastated coastlines all over the world?
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someone just asked this >:|
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Originally Posted by srmalloy
Could we get an explanation for why the Moon rises in the South and sets in the North, at an almost 90° angle to its proper orbit? And how it was done without causing massive tidal effects that would have devastated coastlines all over the world?
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I'm not sure that granting Praetorian Hamidon access to time travel would be a good thing, but it WOULD be an amazing in-story way to justify wiping out all of creation on November 30th.
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Originally Posted by Kurrent
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That IS a spectacular thought, though. |
Personal theories of mine:
1) Is DJ Zero in reality, Lord Nemesis?
2) Is Mender Lazarus in reality Doctor Aeon?
3) Are Shadow Cyst Crystals corrupted versions of Pillars of Ice and Flame?
More to come as I think of it.
1) Was there a real story behind AE? My theory was always that it was a joint effort between Crey and Aeon to gain statistics on the combat abilities of heroes, but... I always sort of felt like there was more going on there than that.
2) Was there ever much thought put into the natures of Television and Radio? Or are they entities who just...are?
3) Would you say that a Well of Furies is the only way for people to attain a level of power similar to that which the Incarnates have? Entities like The Clockwork King (city-wide control over an army of tiny automatons), and Hamidon (being, well, Hamidon) seem to have powers that, on the surface of it, both far outstrip the abilities of Incarnate people while also being very different from them. One could argue that all they really have are incredibly advanced Lore slots (for custom-designing minions to their purposes), but that seems to be selling the question short a bit.
4) Did the Unseelie Court have any particular reason for showing up when and where they did? Or are they just generally fans of terror and chaos, taking Halloween as an appropriate period of time to work their business?
5) Were there plans for any further time travel zones like Ceimerora? I've always kind of wanted a Wild West zone or Ancient Egypt zone.