NCsoft is NOT our enemy

TonyV, I have to agree with the majority: don't try and make a corporation look like the good guys here. They're not.

But then I'm probably on the other side of the fence here too. Why boycott NCsoft? Because they made a business decision that directly affected you? Meh. Happens every day. Happens every second. A corporate decision will affect someone somewhere in a negative way...Let's boycott Cryptic because they were in direct competition with CoH...or Activision because WoW sucks up all the market for MMOs.

Corporations are collectively cut-throat, at least the largely successful ones. That's just the nature of business. You can go through the history of pretty much any big business and there's going to be a dark side. Business is corporations is money is greed. It's inescapable.

The way I see it, if you yourself don't think of your money as an investment in a product, you're shortselling yourself. Support the product that you think deserves money rather than believing you're lining the pockets of some evil CEO. Because if you don't, you'll never get the product you deserve for the price you're willing to pay.

Dunno about you, but I'm buying what games I find fun and innovative because I'm supporting the artists, writers, designers, programmers, animators, musicians, etc who make the game in hopes the future will be just as fun and innovative. Boycotts only stifle advancement and blinds oneself with their own emotions. Similarly, if Sony supported the continuation of CoH, those boycotting Sony simply expresses the sentiment that 'CoH is still not worth my soul'.

Well dignity and money are two seperate things in this world. Either you want the product that you want or you should be dumping it all into charities for people that don't have it.

/cue hyperbole of NCsoft killing 50 puppies per min to run Aion or something.

Yeah, well I'm sure Walmart also runs on the eternal souls of dead orphans...I doubt those orphans need their souls anyway now that they're dead...

I only gave NCSoft and Paragon Studios somewhere around $50 since this time last year. There were reasons for that decision that I won't go into now but the point I'm left pondering is did I, and other players that quit paying for reasons of their own, help cause this?

The sad truth is: yes. So who is at fault for the downfall of this game now?

NCSoft for pulling the trigger?
The devs for making decisions that caused players to quit?
The players for quitting?

I don't eat Chick-Fil-A because I've always hated the politics of the company and their food sucks.
I don't give money to antivirus software providers because there are free products on the market that work just as well.

Is NCSoft the villain in this story? Sure. But as others have stated there are a lot of villainous companies out there.

There's a bunch of people now worried about where their next paycheck is coming from and THAT sucks. THEY are the ones I hold real concern for. But NCSoft is not the only cause of this game's downfall.

I don't like NcSoft and never will, however I no how to be formal and respect those up in the chain of command.

However if all our hard work does not pay off and we don't get coh back, they will be my Enemy.

Don't forget thing changes and people do as well, Companies can be saint and then change into the devil. Seem like how NcSoft is right now to me, I will try to be respectful and be formal.

Right now, I believe the best thing I can do for CoH is to support the Titan initiative. The only means I have to do so is lobbing some meager cash at it.

My unfocused rage would only hurt their efforts and thus my interests. Until I know who is to blame I'll merely boycott NCSoft, like many other companies that have no idea I'm doing so (for example, Steam screwed me over on one game back in 2004 and I haven't dealt with them since, though if they pick up CoH, I'd consider that enough atonement).

So, people at NCSoft can make a ruthless decision based on cold facts, but when it's the other way around, suddenly people in this community can't make any ruthless decision based on cold facts? Suddenly they're cruel and insensitive? Bien sûr, that makes sense... Wait, no it doesn't, because that's exactly what being an aware consumer is.

OP needs a nap, I guess? 'cause I don't see this thread being very helpful overall. If people want to vent, more power to them (it's been civil, as far as I know). Anybody on this boards only speaks for himself, and is wise enough to make their own decisions.

And to answer the question above, if CoH lives but without the former devs to take care of it, I'm done with the game anyway, because it will be an empty shell of its former self to me (emphasis). And I'd still dont give a dingleberry about NCSoft.

NCSoft can kiss my ***.

Just a coincidence that they announce this just after releasing GW2? No way.

Then they have the nerve to milk customers with a new powerset just a week or so before killing off the game. I wonder how long they've been milking this game knowing they were going to kill it.

Then on top of it all, they're going to sit on the game despite the fact it's profitable (made over 2 million last quarter - if you can't run this game on 2 million a quarter, it's not the game that sucks, it's you, which is probably why ncsoft is falling into the red). Of course other companies are going to make offers on a game that is clearly profitable, and has such a solid fan base, and that can be kept going relatively cheaply - it's a hell of a lot cheaper to maintain a game than create one, and this game is more profitable/active than some games that have come out in the past few years.

But like the rest of the games they kill, they'll bury this one to drive customers to their other craptastic games, you know, the ones that put them in the red in the first place.

Of course, the biggest reason they're killing coh is because the game is only useful in the US, and most of this companies business is in asia. Just another lesson on why it's bad to invest in foreign companies, because when the crap hits the fan, the foreign customers get the shaft.

Bottom line is, ncsoft is leaving a ton of loyal customers out in the cold on this one, and it absolutely does not have to. If this game is so trivial to them that it's not worth continuing, then selling it for a profit to another company shouldn't effect their bottom line the other way if it isn't helping them enough to continue supporting it. Then again, perhaps they realize what a lousy company they are, and that if coh was put in the right hands, it might actually grow.