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Originally Posted by Ogi
I'd rather have corporations that actually look beyond next quarter's profits but oh shiny must have!
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Some people won't invest in companies that produce guns, liquor, gambling, etc. I have no problem making money off such businesses. We all have free will. And, hopefully, we all have the strength of character to not give a damn what random strangers think about our choices.
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But will people remember when it does come out?
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Yes and yes and yes! Because it will be all over the press. It won't be just "NCSoft launch Wildstar" it will be "Remember NCSoft, that cancelled City of Heroes? They just launched a new game."
Positron said it best. The CoH community changed the way games are sunset.
Wildstar could be great, but it'll tank in the west because whatever $$$ they throw at marketing the twitter and facebook feed will be "@NCSoft lolwildstar"
nobody who researches MMOs is going to touch it with yours because of NCStink
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Originally Posted by JKedan
And will anyone not in the SaveCoX movement care?
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See above
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And by press you mean the occasional blog.
If you honestly think Massively or Joystiq are going to state such things in an article you are severely misinformed. None of the mainstream gaming media outlets are going to say such things...sorry to burst your bubble but they aren't into promoting/publishing hate...they are into promoting games. If you think a few hundred people on twitter yelling @NCSoft lolwildstar is going to be an effective smear campaign...I point you to the success of a lil hashtag known as: #savecoh and remind you November 30, 2012 is getting closer every day.
Reality check.
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Yes
Yes and yes and yes! Because it will be all over the press. It won't be just "NCSoft launch Wildstar" it will be "Remember NCSoft, that cancelled City of Heroes? They just launched a new game." Positron said it best. The CoH community changed the way games are sunset. Wildstar could be great, but it'll tank in the west because whatever $$$ they throw at marketing the twitter and facebook feed will be "@NCSoft lolwildstar" nobody who researches MMOs is going to touch it with yours because of NCStink |
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Originally Posted by Paladiamors
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Honestly, I find this exceedingly unlikely. Potential new players will look at the developer, and if NCSoft even enters the review equation, it'll be "Yeah, they closed an 8 year old game that was in decline, and that had some of the most hardcore of its small player base upset, but they are clearly committed to GW2 and look how well it is doing." |
Originally Posted by Scarlet Shocker
Yes
Yes and yes and yes! Because it will be all over the press. It won't be just "NCSoft launch Wildstar" it will be "Remember NCSoft, that cancelled City of Heroes? They just launched a new game." Positron said it best. The CoH community changed the way games are sunset. Wildstar could be great, but it'll tank in the west because whatever $$$ they throw at marketing the twitter and facebook feed will be "@NCSoft lolwildstar" nobody who researches MMOs is going to touch it with yours because of NCStink |
Passion aside, SaveCoH has neither the numbers nor the popular support to make a difference in future NCSoft releases. You don't even have the full support of the current CoH player base. Those products will succeed or fail on their own merits and the state of the market, not because of anything former CoX players say.
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I meant that coh pvp was the only thing as engaging as gw2, coh pve is pretty much baby food because they intended for the game to make you feel like a super hero being able to kill tons of enemies without a scratch. gw2 has that feeling but only after you the player become skilled, this is very similar to how coh pvp was pre-i13.
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Originally Posted by Feycat
Uh, GW2 PvE is reminiscent of COH PvP... what are you smoking?
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I disagree. I would imagine Massively will mention it, just don't expect it to be the lead. They may work it in while discussing features and compare them to the "now closed City of Heroes".
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
And by press you mean the occasional blog.
If you honestly think Massively or Joystiq are going to state such things in an article you are severely misinformed. None of the mainstream gaming media outlets are going to say such things...sorry to burst your bubble but they aren't into promoting/publishing hate...they are into promoting games. If you think a few hundred people on twitter yelling @NCSoft lolwildstar is going to be an effective smear campaign...I point you to the success of a lil hashtag known as: #savecoh and remind you November 30, 2012 is getting closer every day. Reality check. |
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
And by press you mean the occasional blog.
If you honestly think Massively or Joystiq are going to state such things in an article you are severely misinformed. None of the mainstream gaming media outlets are going to say such things...sorry to burst your bubble but they aren't into promoting/publishing hate...they are into promoting games. If you think a few hundred people on twitter yelling @NCSoft lolwildstar is going to be an effective smear campaign...I point you to the success of a lil hashtag known as: #savecoh and remind you November 30, 2012 is getting closer every day. |
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LOL if you say so. Don't be surprised when your bombs end up duds.
Sometimes I do read the comments on CNN articles - it amazes me how stupid, bigoted, and uneducated some people are there...seriously check them out. Very rarely do you see an actual sane comment there; usually they are just homophobic insults, racial slurs, or just plain idiocy.
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And this differs from comments on every other internet sight ever in what way...?
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
Very rarely do you see an actual sane comment there; usually they are just homophobic insults, racial slurs, or just plain idiocy.
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it's NEVER too late to pad your /ignore list!
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I worked customer service for many years and now I simply assume everyone is like that. It's less frustrating, and it's a treat to encounter the rare individual that isn't.
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Originally Posted by I Burnt The Toast
it amazes me how stupid, bigoted, and uneducated some people are there.
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Originally Posted by Solo_One
I hope you guys check this game out, it really is genuinely a great game(although much harder than CoX). If you do my global handle is Solo.9027 and I'm on Blackgate, but right now server transfers are free so it doesnt matter where you go. I understand the anti-NCsoft sentiment around here but I felt like I had to relate how much fun this game is. I try to look at it as an Arenanet game more than an NCsoft game. If you buy it once there is no further money you'd need to give them to enjoy everything in the game so you can minimize any sort of guilt you might feel betraying paragon studios or whatever. |
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Slighty OT, I discovered Otherland over the weekend and after looking at some of the game play videos and other info I really like the look of where RealU are going with it.
It's based on a series of Sci Fi novels by author Tad Williams where the internet is vast network of virtual worlds. The devs are promising the most comprehensive character creator ever and the ability to change your look on the fly.
I love the look and feel, love that it's not yet another cookie cutter fantasy clone, and some of the ideas they're toying with sound fantastic.
www.otherland-game.com if you're interested.
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costumes which unlock pvp in non-pvp zones
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Originally Posted by Ironik
AKA, d*****bags everywhere! Yay!
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Read further.
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**** NCSoft.
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Ah, so you'd rather be ignorant than educated about the actual facts. Fair enough, that's your choice and I respect it.
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Yes I forgot this but emu project actually has some IP so Sony sold them or rented them something I don't know how much but i think as long as it is not engine related they can use it which makes this case even more a bad example since NCSoft is not even intend to sell IP so giving it as an example of why people are not boycotting Sony but Ncsoft fails on so many front.|
Originally Posted by Gangrel_EU
Actually in the case of Star Wars, a case could be made for the NGE release of it, considering that they did effectively gut out the *original* release, to make it something totally different (more WoW like), which wasn't the game that they had originally paid for and played.
Did people quit the game over that? Hell yes. That is why there is the Star Wars Galaxies Emu project up and running, to bring back the *original* experience of the game, and not the more "up to date" version. |
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GW2 is as much a successor to COH as SWTOR was to SWG - which is to say, not at all. SWTOR had little to nothing in common with SWG, except for the basics of the IP. GW2 has some good mechanics lifted and tweaked from COH, but other than that, is not a successor.
So? If you felt that LucasArts screwed you over, with the NGE, with shutting down SWG, or even with those awful freaking prequel movies (that's where *I* stopped spending any money at all on anything Star Wars - a friend had to buy SWTOR for me to get me to try it because I refuse to give Lucas one more thin dime for taking such a giant, hairy dump on my childhood) then it would be reasonable to NOT buy SWTOR because you don't trust/like LucasArts anymore. |
Third approach by companies makes the difference both Lucas and Sony kept game over 8 years despite having a big failure like NGE didn't closed it on a whim and they let emu project to have some sort of IP to prduce old game on their own. NCSfot cut the game like a hot knife on butter and don't inted to give IP in any form away. You may have agrudge against Lucas or Sony just like we are having a gainst NCSoft but calling them same is outragous.
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Originally Posted by Ironik
AKA, d*****bags everywhere! Yay!
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It unlocks shapeshifts that allow you to "attack" other people who are also shapeshifted, in a way that does no damage, only big "POW!" and "BAM!" visual/sound effects and sometimes does knockback.
But y'know. D'bags everywhere. 'specially here, these days.
Tbh GW2 isn't really that bad. Its a game that I really enjoyed playing solo or with my friends. The holiday events are frankly quite amazing even though I haven't done the costume brawl.
This does not mean that I condone what NCSOFT did to COH. I bought the game before they announced the closure of COH. Right now, I'm tempted to put in some money to buy extra inventory slots and char slots but the only reason I'm not doing so is the way NCSOFT handled closing of COH.
Anyway I have to give credit where it is due. Anet did an amazing job with GW2 and I really hope NCSOFT wouldn't shut them down in the someday in the future.
I will miss you City of Heroes..
Well the realist in me has to point out: Guild Wars 2 will end... maybe not in 2014 or even 2017...but eventually it will. It could end because of Guild Wars 3 or for a plethora of other reasons. It is a beautiful game; just not my type of game (Like I have always said... I am not an MMOer..I was a CoHer).
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Tbh GW2 isn't really that bad. Its a game that I really enjoyed playing solo or with my friends. The holiday events are frankly quite amazing even though I haven't done the costume brawl.
This does not mean that I condone what NCSOFT did to COH. I bought the game before they announced the closure of COH. Right now, I'm tempted to put in some money to buy extra inventory slots and char slots but the only reason I'm not doing so is the way NCSOFT handled closing of COH. Anyway I have to give credit where it is due. Anet did an amazing job with GW2 and I really hope NCSOFT wouldn't shut them down in the someday in the future. |
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no matter how many emoticons are used
...but yeah, the 'savecoh' and 'plan z' efforts will bleed people steadily. I'm sure it's over.
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