Meanwhile, in the Halls of Titan...
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Posted on: 2012-08-31 17:09 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
Titan Network being incorporated. Are you guys? This is important because you're going to need to own something and it can't belong to any individual member of TN. I'm srs. The other option is for another incorporated body to step in here and TN to take on an organizational role.
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But, beyond the fundraising, it won't really help, because for multiple reasons it would make more sense to incorporate CoH as its own entity. (not a lawyer btw, researched this stuff)Quote:
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Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
Starting another campaign to find a publisher willing to take on the project. This is the real money angle. We'd have to convince them that we can make this profitable over a year or so, but we'd need a lot of money upfront.
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Also, yes, I have a few resources I'm willing to contribute to this plan, if only TonyV would answer my PM. :P I'd rather work with him than alongside, because there's more negotiating power that way.
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Good luck folks, I know it was done with Horizons.
Perhaps CoX isn't done just quite yet. I'd chip in if you folks can work it out.
My fear is that NCSoft doesn't have any interest in selling the IP. They may prefer to shelf it in case they want to use it later. I doubt people would come, but they may not get that.
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That's entirely possible, especially if they planned to make a new game with the CoH property but don't currently have the money. The only way to find out is to ask.
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Originally Posted by Jetpack
My fear is that NCSoft doesn't have any interest in selling the IP. They may prefer to shelf it in case they want to use it later. I doubt people would come, but they may not get that.
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"Meanwhile In The Halls Of Titan"...Titan Network Working To Save City Of Heroes
Save Paragon City! Efforts Coordination
If anyone among the player base can save City, I believe it would be the Titan Network. Should you be able to get this off the ground, you'll have my support.
I'll keep my eye on the alternative projects as well. I do not want this game to die, especially not in such a horrible fashion.
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Very true. Thank you for doing what you can.
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Originally Posted by CuppaManga
That's entirely possible, especially if they planned to make a new game with the CoH property but don't currently have the money. The only way to find out is to ask.
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i will continue to support this
im tempted of donating to the titan network guys next week, giving them all the support i can possibly give to make this reality (saying next week as i need to wait for next payday)
i am willing to do whatever it takes to keep this game going
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Wow, that's really kind. I hate to say this because heaven knows I do love donations to help defray the cost of hosting the Titan Network server, but at this point, hold off. Anything you would have donated to us, hang on to until it comes time for a crowd funding effort. It's going to take a big number when we get to that point, and literally every dollar that shows up in the grand total will count tremendously.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
im tempted of donating to the titan network guys next week, giving them all the support i can possibly give to make this reality (saying next week as i need to wait for next payday)
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We've been saving Paragon City for eight and a half years. It's time to do it one more time.
(If you love this game as much as I do, please read that post.)
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in game i may have always loved playing villains, but if the world is destroyed theres nothing to rule anymore (if you catch my meaning)|
Originally Posted by TonyV
Wow, that's really kind. I hate to say this because heaven knows I do love donations to help defray the cost of hosting the Titan Network server, but at this point, hold off. Anything you would have donated to us, hang on to until it comes time for a crowd funding effort. It's going to take a big number when we get to that point, and literally every dollar that shows up in the grand total will count tremendously.
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this threat to the games existence requires drastic circumstances
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I will also throw every penny I can afford to give for this venture. I will do anything to keep our game up and running.
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Originally Posted by TonyV
Wow, that's really kind. I hate to say this because heaven knows I do love donations to help defray the cost of hosting the Titan Network server, but at this point, hold off. Anything you would have donated to us, hang on to until it comes time for a crowd funding effort. It's going to take a big number when we get to that point, and literally every dollar that shows up in the grand total will count tremendously.
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I'm in. I can't provide a grand like some people, but I'll do what I can.
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I don't want this game to ever die.
I'd be willing to donate as well. I mean, yeah it'd be a mere (probably something like) $40-50 every couple weeks when I can. But hey, it's an honest effort from my part.
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Originally Posted by Necrotech_Master
in game i may have always loved playing villains, but if the world is destroyed theres nothing to rule anymore (if you catch my meaning)
this threat to the games existence requires drastic circumstances |
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If enough of us can get organized, there's a chance that maybe it won't.
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Originally Posted by LadyAndreca
I don't want this game to ever die.
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Sure -- or Paragon Studios 2 (working name) anyway -- and to grant that entity ownership of the CoH IP. But that's not going to be an instantaneous process and I don't want to see this end in a huge legal tangle. (So if for instance your corporation took temporary ownership of the IP, I'd want to look over your charter before donating.)|
Originally Posted by CuppaManga
Yes, actually, I do have an incorporated entity.
But, beyond the fundraising, it won't really help, because for multiple reasons it would make more sense to incorporate CoH as its own entity. (not a lawyer btw, researched this stuff) |
We could also just flat up incorporate a new CoH entity now with the *goal* of acquiring the IP for it, but I don't have the legal backbone to do that either.
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I can't give much, there were a few times I had to wait to renew my sub, but I will give support in any way I can, thank you Tony for your efforts and know that whatever the result, we'll all know that you did your best. You're as much a hero in RL as you are in the game my friend.
Thanks to everyone that helped make me a welcomed part of the community, and for giving me over 3 years of some of the best gaming I've been able to take part in. May the next game bring many friendships and maybe reconnect to some old CoH friends.
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Titan Studios
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Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
or Paragon Studios 2 (working name)
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If we have to take the extreme route, then the 3D modeling will be just as important as the coding.
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Originally Posted by Johnstone
I'm mostly focused in 3d Modeling, but have some experience with code
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@Golden Girl
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I much prefer the idea of generating a new game engine vs trying to license the old one
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Oddly enough I've done that before, and it's basically just filling out a form and paying a fee. Voila, in a few days you get your articles of incorporation in the mail. At least that's how it works in Florida.|
Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
We could also just flat up incorporate a new CoH entity now with the *goal* of acquiring the IP for it, but I don't have the legal backbone to do that either.
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The tricky part is creating one company to license the IP, and then another to operate it - because you can't call a company City of Heroes LLC (for example) before you own the name.
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Originally Posted by Jack_NoMind
It's not just the box'n'ship angle we have to work with here; publishers are the 'banks' of the gaming industry. They provide capital, stability, and usually other resources (technical, community management, etc) to the development studio. I mean, sure, it's kind of a protection racket, but... there's an awful lot of thugs out there.
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Tony,
Count me in when/if the time comes to donate. I can't say it will be much, but what I can is yours if it keeps this game alive.
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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl
I much prefer the idea of generating a new game engine vs trying to license the old one
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"Meanwhile In The Halls Of Titan"...Titan Network Working To Save City Of Heroes
Save Paragon City! Efforts Coordination
...If this kickstarter goes up, count me in with whatever I can afford.
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