Discussion: Captain Mako Week Events!
Reading through the posts here, and checking the schedule, I have the following to say:
- It seems the Villain side of things isn't getting anywhere near the amount of fun as the Hero side. C'mon Mako, you are a Villain Patron! At least make sure the red side gets an organized, fun event?
- My characters are on North American servers. I am in Europe. Why do I have characters on NA servers? Because that is where my friends play! As a result, the planned whole 3 hours on a strict schedule (if they don't quit early) is in the dead of night for me.
Since most of my characters are Villains and there doesn't seem to be an reasonable time for me to say Hi to the fluffy shark bunny Mako, it looks like this event will completely pass me by. It's been said before, but it would have been better if there were more attack events throughout the day - Mako was mighty pissed at the newscast, you don't think he'd send riled up minions to the shores even when he's not around in person?...
I found the event very disappointing - there wasn't anything different except to bring down Lusca which I've done a few times in the earlier days - didn't even get a badge, stood around in pocket D for a while and that was it. The event was built up to be something special, it wasn't.
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Frankly I think it's fine the Devs threw something together for this while still concentrating on producing "real" content in the upcoming Issue 24 release. *shrugs*
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So let me get this straight - a player suggests that the developers do an event for Shark Week, and then they actually PUT AN EVENT TOGETHER on the heels of not one - but THREE OTHER SUMMER EVENTS and people are actually carping that it wasn't GOOD ENOUGH?!
And did I actually read that someone PREFERRED the Nemesis invasion - where Nemesis troops - apparently using Rikti technology - just pop out of thin air to gank anyone loading out of missions ad nauseum for weeks on end? Seriously. After the badge was awarded on the first day to nearly everyone in the server no one actually showed up to fight them anyway. It became an annoyance. I'll take this event ANY DAY.
Bah! You people just want to complain.
And for my part, the event on Liberty Blueside was EPIC.
It started out with very little fanfare. A league had formed at the ferry, and everyone was waiting for.... something?
Then over broadcast: When did Lusca start spawning in PI?
The response: What? Where?
It was on. Lusca and a whole herd of Coralax were sitting right off shore. A few adventurous heroes swam out to meet them, but were quickly driven back ashore. At last the leagues got gathered (there was more than one) and we all went in.
In broadcast: A giant monster? That's it? This event is a phail!
We killed Lusca and the Coralax and gathered on the beach. Some started looking around the island.
Two or four Arachnos Fliers dropped a herd of Coralax on top of us on the beach. All incarnate level. Halfway through the battle two Luscas come up from the depths.
Then over broadcast: Coralax now? ROFL PHAIL!
Two Luscas were followed by five. Things start to get sketchy here because I was in the thick of it. I have no idea where the third wave of Coralax came from, but I do know they came.
And the same guy over broadcast: LAME. It's shark week, not squid week. Where are the sharks? This event is stupid.
We were still swatting Lusca heads when the next wave of Lusca/Coralax hit us. More tentacles than you could wave a sucker at. People were going down, and just as quicklly rezzed by league members. Broadcast was filled with people shouting for Mako and generally getting into the spirit.
Then over broadcast: red type. It's Mako.
NO ONE EXPECTS A SHARK ATTACK!
There was much rejoicing. And then the mass-o-tentacles spawned. No Lusca head, just tentacles. And tentacles. And tentacles. Holy carp the tentacles! Coralax swam among them - I know, a large member of the Coral species pwned me rather harshly.
More taunting between the players and Mako over broadcast (I never saw Mako), and the announcement that we should go to Pocket D after the event.
Then more tentacles and Coralax. By this time it was 10 pm.
And the same guy over broadcast: A shark week event with no sharks? This event was epic PHAIL.
Dark matter auras were given away in Pocket D (and 100 sided dice were rolled) and one Retro Scifi code.
So shove your complaints. This event rocked.
EDIT - and my level 48 blaster came out of it with two additional bars of XP and around 20 extra reward merits. Not too shabby for two hours' work.
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There were no badges associated with the event correct?
I missed last night on Liberty so....my OCD badge completionist has kicked in and wanted to verify if I have to swap to another server or not
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Oh man, didn't realize the Liberty event was the same night as the Exalted one! Should have read the schedule...but my little shark will have to live without the awesome title even if she's likely one of the VERY few who has school of sharks (and uses it) in her build. That's an embarrassing oversight on my part. *blushes*
Anyways, I'd like to thank the devs for the event. In spite of Lusca's head not taking damage, then oh my word, 8 more spawning in a stack briefly redside I personally enjoyed all the Coral enemies. My poor daughter gets stuck listening to me excitedly telling her "Oh my gosh Coral there's a whole enemy group named after you!!!" the duration of the battle while she's trying to ignore me playing Minecraft and hoping her friends can't hear her lame mom on her headset. I'd love to see the screenshot if it can get posted that one of the other villians took of the stacked Lusca by the way, too.
Also, a very big thank you to the devs for the water blast code!!!! Completely unexpected and cannot wait to come up with a theme now to put it to use. Usually do not win anything so talk about having my cake and eating it too! I look forward to playing the event more this week, it's a nice change of pace and (for me personally) blows the Nemesis stuff out the window. Love, love, love the theme of it all!
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Fom what I'm reading I'm sad I won't be able to attend any of these. It's too bad people are grouchy about it, but I'd rather have a limited event that has the Devs actually RPing than a code scripted random re-touched rikti invasion. So, glad it was done this way, hope the kinks get worked out, hope everyone who can make the listed times enjoys it, and thanks for giving this a shot devs.
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Got the dark matter aura tonight! It's fantastic! It managed breathe new life into a few of my characters that had grown a little stale and its something I was hoping they would create for the game. It looks like one of those Jack Kirby auras with all the different sizes spheres generating from the character and even looks okay dark and bright.
So let me get this straight - a player suggests that the developers do an event for Shark Week, and then they actually PUT AN EVENT TOGETHER on the heels of not one - but THREE OTHER SUMMER EVENTS and people are actually carping that it wasn't GOOD ENOUGH?!
And did I actually read that someone PREFERRED the Nemesis invasion - where Nemesis troops - apparently using Rikti technology - just pop out of thin air to gank anyone loading out of missions ad nauseum for weeks on end? Seriously. After the badge was awarded on the first day to nearly everyone in the server no one actually showed up to fight them anyway. It became an annoyance. I'll take this event ANY DAY. Bah! You people just want to complain. And for my part, the event on Liberty Blueside was EPIC. It started out with very little fanfare. A league had formed at the ferry, and everyone was waiting for.... something? Then over broadcast: When did Lusca start spawning in PI? The response: What? Where? It was on. Lusca and a whole herd of Coralax were sitting right off shore. A few adventurous heroes swam out to meet them, but were quickly driven back ashore. At last the leagues got gathered (there was more than one) and we all went in. In broadcast: A giant monster? That's it? This event is a phail! We killed Lusca and the Coralax and gathered on the beach. Some started looking around the island. Two or four Arachnos Fliers dropped a herd of Coralax on top of us on the beach. All incarnate level. Halfway through the battle two Luscas come up from the depths. Then over broadcast: Coralax now? ROFL PHAIL! Two Luscas were followed by five. Things start to get sketchy here because I was in the thick of it. I have no idea where the third wave of Coralax came from, but I do know they came. And the same guy over broadcast: LAME. It's shark week, not squid week. Where are the sharks? This event is stupid. We were still swatting Lusca heads when the next wave of Lusca/Coralax hit us. More tentacles than you could wave a sucker at. People were going down, and just as quicklly rezzed by league members. Broadcast was filled with people shouting for Mako and generally getting into the spirit. Then over broadcast: red type. It's Mako. NO ONE EXPECTS A SHARK ATTACK! There was much rejoicing. And then the mass-o-tentacles spawned. No Lusca head, just tentacles. And tentacles. And tentacles. Holy carp the tentacles! Coralax swam among them - I know, a large member of the Coral species pwned me rather harshly. More taunting between the players and Mako over broadcast (I never saw Mako), and the announcement that we should go to Pocket D after the event. Then more tentacles and Coralax. By this time it was 10 pm. And the same guy over broadcast: A shark week event with no sharks? This event was epic PHAIL. Dark matter auras were given away in Pocket D (and 100 sided dice were rolled) and one Retro Scifi code. So shove your complaints. This event rocked. EDIT - and my level 48 blaster came out of it with two additional bars of XP and around 20 extra reward merits. Not too shabby for two hours' work. |
As far as my comments, and the amount of 'fail' I do have to take that back, but only to an extent. After looking back on this, I can honestly say a few things.
1. Yes we have never had a "Shark Week" event before in eight years, despite having a pretty interesting and very prominent shark as one of the (usually but not always) villians of the game. He's also, pardon the pun, got a lot of depth to him as well. I've always felt he could be extremely effective if used more often in the story - with SSA Arc 2, his appearance is both ominous and engaging. So for him to finally have an event centered around him was, for this life long shark lover, a real treat to look forward to...
But...
2. The execution was lackluster in comparison to the anticipation brought on when this was announced. Never have I experienced anything on a live server that felt so slapdash, so non-commital, so half-way done, or had as many visible cut corners as this appeared to have. I try to live my life by a few truths one of which is this - Either do something right, or don't do it at all, halfway done is no better than not started at all.
Now, I can easily see how, given i24 on the horizon, there is very little time to spare for an event such as this - also I have no idea when this was started. Does that mean this should be the first and the last of it's kind? No, mainly because (and I don't intend offense in saying this, but, honestly?) this event has no where to go, but better. I think with some effort it could be far more impressive.
This first outing, however, was very dissapointing, and my comments in bc reflected that very deep dissapointment. As I said I do not wholely agree with them but I *do* agree in part. This event was spread simultansouly through 4 different zones, with at least one if not more of those having been multiplied by population overload. Previous events of this type that I experienced - the Praetorian Surge and the Praetorain Hamidon's so-called invasion as well - were both choreographed and fairly complex without requiring a great deal of guesswork.
Such was not the case here. We had, in effect, multiple luscas with air dropped level 54 corolax in support, all spawning in a single location only. No AVs. No real noticeable variety, and absolutely no choreography - we onyl had one beach to worry about when we were on an island that would be VERY difficult to defend if the enemy were to attack along multiple vectors. And there was no goal, either. No one was ever really in any danger on PI. In fact, Portal Corps might never have known, and Vanguard was aware only because the guards could see us. As for the lack of sharks on "shark week"? Honestly this was no surprise to me since shark week was only an implication - and while hoped for, there was only one shark that I wanted to see, and fight.
3. And despite being the title character of the event, Mako failed to attend his own... <ahem> "invasion". He said a few things, half of which was just geek-culture riff, and that was it. That was all. Three sentences - Darth Maul, anyone? And nothing even remotely resembling an in-character statement, except to hang out in Pocket D afterwards. People harmed in his murderous spree through Paragon - period, zip, zero, nada - no action to even remotely suggest he was anything to be taken seriously, and certainly NOT the way one goes about carving out a bloody rampage so as to silence any laughter.
4. Worse yet, I *specifically* prepared the character I would attend with, a spine dark scrap who's journey took him from Paragon to the Isles to fight alongside and learn from Mako, who followed a somewhat similar path himself. Unlike Mako my characters story includes his turning from that life and becoming some one who's central motivation is one of rivalry with Mako. This event would have been a perfect cap to his story...
...had Mako ever shown up. Sadly he did not, and that is the other half of my dissapointment.
Now, is all this personal, and not likely to be a common complaint? Well, yes, I can't truthfully admit otherwise.
So, things to look back on as positive? Sadly, that is a very, very, short list.
1. In the end, I have one or two good memories from this that I can look back on, but those had very little to do with this event. The main thing I take away from this is that i24 is getting a LOT of work put into it, as well as the first stages of i25 and i26.
2. I also take away from this a continued feeling that the Paragon Devs do love us as a community, and do want us to be happy and have fun. They are human and this means that some of what they do will not be up to their - also very human - customers expectations. Despite this they soldier on and continue to try, to improve what needs improving, and give us what they can give.
I have felt this way about them for almost 8 years and despite this event's lack of luster, that has not changed. If anything, it's been reinforced. I mean, hey, shark week event! Sure there weren't any sharks to fight against for us, but those of us on Liberty who did show up to fight sharks would have ended up at the end of the event with a shark in hand having used it to club his or her friends that evening, at the VERY least!
3. Lastly the community itself - Liberty is very much a tight knit and dysfunctional family of friendly, strong personalitied (raises hand), booty kickers and maybe-we'll-take-their-names-and-maybe-we-won't players, and this event was no exception. As I said above, the leagues in PI 1 were a force to be reckoned with, and in this regard were most of my memories spawned. Highest point of the entire event - one league mate gave me a Scrapper ATO global, completely out of the blue. I asked why, and her reply?
Even sharks need love.
And, let me tell you, even a hardened murderous shark's heart in a moment of high emotion CAN melt.
And on that thought, I shall bow out with what little grace I may have left. Here's hoping for a better tomorrow, and - work schedule permitting- a better shark week next year!
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They are human and this means that some of what they do will not be up to their - also very human - customers expectations.
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Shark Week was put together by the OCR team. They made it as good as they could using the resources and tools they have available -- they could give it a nifty lead in and story background, they could spawn mobs, and they could animate NPCs (which, of course, they can only do in one zone at a time).
We already know what to expect during these kinds of events. No new mechanics were tested on the beta server, so we could be pretty sure nothing fancy would happen. Expecting different is just setting yourself up for disappointment and dissatisfaction.
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Last night on Pinnacle, we wiped Zwil's (coughMakocough) invasion so hard it crashed his computer, so he had the gall to stand on top of the hill in Talos doing the MJ dance while he spawned like 100 level 54 Arachnos bosses.
Epic fun had by all!
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i would give this event a 1 out of 10. would have much preferred a retooling of any of the scripted events.
One thing that was funny, running into 2 dozen or so left over warders standing around in talos this morning with my low level stalker.
i would give this event a 1 out of 10. would have much preferred a retooling of any of the scripted events.
One thing that was funny, running into 2 dozen or so left over warders standing around in talos this morning with my low level stalker. |
Nemesis troops using rikti teleports doesn't break immersion for you?
A community that gets so bored with them after the first day that they don't even bother to gather and participate for the remaining month that the Nemesis invasions were live?
Yeah. That's waaaaaaay preferable to an event that the developers rolled up on a player's request and actually attended.
/sarcasm
NOTE - None of that sarcasm applies to Rikti invasions, which a) have a desirable reward, b) are actually in keeping with the theme of the enemy group, and c) have more to them than teleporting spawns.
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Just because you don't see the Stalker, doesn't mean he's not there.
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Stalker yet to attack = Stalker who has yet to kill.
In short, you're making up a really, really, pointless excuse. You really think Mako would be in a zone, in a murderous rage, wanting to leave a trail of corpses to show that sharks are not the smiling cousin to dolphins, and then instead of attacking and killing people, you *honestly* think he would just...
...troll us?
Not Sure If Serious...
You mean those scripted events where an enemy group appropriate to the theme just pops out of the air at random times to gank unwary mission loaders?
Nemesis troops using rikti teleports doesn't break immersion for you? A community that gets so bored with them after the first day that they don't even bother to gather and participate for the remaining month that the Nemesis invasions were live? Yeah. That's waaaaaaay preferable to an event that the developers rolled up on a player's request and actually attended. /sarcasm NOTE - None of that sarcasm applies to Rikti invasions, which a) have a desirable reward, b) are actually in keeping with the theme of the enemy group, and c) have more to them than teleporting spawns. |
...er... Heads. <innocent look>
So, to me? Nemesis with Rikti teleporter devices doesn't seem wholly far-fetched. That said, I think it would have been better had the Drills been used.
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You do realize Zwilinger was actually playing the PC Captain Mako, right? It wasn't an NPC, it was just him, spawning things, and taunting and trashtalking the players.
Carl and Sons @Aurora Girl (Pinnacle)
You do realize Zwilinger was actually playing the PC Captain Mako, right? It wasn't an NPC, it was just him, spawning things, and taunting and trashtalking the players.
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You know, lowest number wins? Well, zero is pretty low. Winner!
And no I'm not serious. At this point, I found the event amusing, fun, and while I think it can only be made better, I think this event was a decent enough starting point for next year.
"She gives my ex-wife a run for the money."
Yeah, 'cause trolling a server and not attacking even once sure will show TV that he's a cold blooded murderer! Biggest body count from an invasion EVER! Well, in golf terms anyways.
You know, lowest number wins? Well, zero is pretty low. Winner! And no I'm not serious. At this point, I found the event amusing, fun, and while I think it can only be made better, I think this event was a decent enough starting point for next year. |
You know what? I get it.
Like you, I leveled up my Water/MM blaster and went villainside to get Mako's pool so I would have sharks for the event. I also made a special shark costume for it.
I couldn't care less that there were no sharks in the event, and I didn't need to fight Mako himself, but it's Shark Week (which I honestly didn't know was such a holiday) and the head shark couldn't muster a single smiling dolphin.
Had they not marketed it as a "shark" event I'm willing to bet it would have had rave reviews.
I still think the event rocked. In fact, I'll be repeating the experience when it goes to Virtue (Where I have characters of appropriate level).
And I'll have a blast there, too.
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The main problem we had on Defiant was excess popularity. We were asked to split up with 40 and below in Talos, and the level 50s in PI, and then some zone on redside that I forget, sorry. We still ended up with two instances of both blueside zones, so the Community guys were run ragged trying to keep up with spawning mobs and making Mako apperances in the zones. Fun idea, though!
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