CoH2. Will it ever happen?

I don't think CoH 2 would run along side CoH 1 - it would replace it.

Ideally it would be a new and improved game engine which could handle porting over content from CoH 1

indeed, honestly, outside of nostalgia, I tend to move forward in gaming myself, there are some great old games that just seem unplayable now due to advances in graphics, control and additional game mechanics. but i freely admit that is simply my perspective, i hear some people still bang away at daggerfall and alpha centauri. my point i was making was more about how games can get sequels. we wouldnt have gotten adventure of link if everyone was still playing zelda. we played we finished, we got all there was to get, and moved on. thats why mmos are harder to sequel, people still have stuff to do here.

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Originally Posted by VoodooGirl Maybe once that CoH movie happens... ...or we had some actual marketing and tv ads...

do you really think enough people care about coh to make a movie viable? is the lroe really that deep while at the same time accommodating to people who are not major fans? dunno, I really think that for an 8 year old game with a modest population, we are where we are, and heavy marketing of movies that would be unlikely to get the budget to do the property justice would be a waste of time. heck, game movies carry enough of a stigma that i'm not sure its worth pursuing any game movie for quite some time. and ther have been ad pushes, when architecht, cov and gr came out, i saw lots of ads in gamer targeted sites (kotaku, penny arcade, gu comics) maybe it wont be a super bowl commercial, but the cost to likely return on cost is what it is. coh is an old niche game with a small but rabid fan base, I just dont see it growing bigger than that.

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I think it is more about the changes/updates that are made to the game. You see some MMO's that just die because of some change that just makes the game worse..not better. I am more surprised that other companies haven't copied some of COH features that make it such an enjoyable MMO. I still haven't seen another MMO with a better character creator. Boggles my mind.

The only way that a sequel game makes any sense is if you can guarantee the investors that the game will open up a new market or that it has a guaranteed pre-existing market.

World of Warcraft is one such "guaranteed market" game. Everyone who ever bought a Warcraft game was ready and willing to try World of Warcraft, and most of them had never played a MMO before. WoW hit both of the selling points and it hit them hard.

Guild Wars 2 is another such game. Everyone who plays Guild Wars will buy Guild Wars 2, because it follows the same "pay once, play forever" model and it is a true persistent world MMO where Guild Wars is a series of matchmaking lobbies strung together to give the appearance of a MMO. It will make sense to continue to play both games depending upon mood, especially with the Hall of Monuments to connect the two games together. It will be sort of like if Freedom Force had been the original game and City of Heroes as we know it today had launched as Freedom Force 2. Playing one game would not remove the incentive to play the other, and in fact with judicious planning one game might CREATE incentive to play the other.

City of Heroes is currently NOT a game where you could guarantee either that every existing CoH player would invest in a sequel or that the proposed sequel would appeal to some segment of the market that previously had not invested into the MMO hobby. A sequel to City of Heroes would only achieve traction by cannibalizing and ultimately sinking City of Heroes.

On the plus side, our game engine is not a static thing. The phasing tech currently in place in Atlas Park is a great example of that. The game engine grows and changes just like the world. Our game is full of features now that six years ago were "impossible without an overhaul of the game engine" and therefore never going to happen. The cottage rule notwithstanding, the studio has more or less established that "never going to happen" means "it won't happen until we get a clever designer to figure out how to make it happen and we have buy-in from corporate to invest in the time and development requirements."

The upshot is that the upgrades get incorporated into CoH instead of being collected and inserted into a new game. From the standpoint of 2004, the current game is so far removed from what we played back then that it IS what people used to propose as their dream "CoH2" game.

CoH3 will be better than CoH2.

I think the game has some very cool stuff coming, and content.
We closing the Praetorian storyline, using an issue to "fix stuff" then opening a new chapter with I25 in 2013.
It would be awesome if they could port the game to a brand new engine with less restrictions and more easy for revamping old stuff.
Performance need to be improved, I think.
But I also think CoH still have some years kicking

Bases. Bases are the ur example of why they need a CoH2. Let me say this about bases. They're a nice place to store my stuff and they help me get from point a to point b faster but if they disappeared tomorrow I wouldn't really care. The point being they can not touch them. They have said point blank that any attempted change to base would crash the whole (bases) system.

How many other systems in the game are close to that? I mean bases shipped with CoV. It was actually part of the game and it's so arcane that they dare not touch it. I have to assume that there are similar systems that are severely limiting what they can do with the game.

I certainly doubt that there will ever be a CoH2. In fact, I am certain of it. To make a CoH2 work, they would have to have enough income to justify the expense. I suspect that some, like me, would not likely enjoy learning a new game just to look at different graphics.

Since I'm likely not the only one who would shy away from a second version of the same game, the player base would be split. A mistake even worse than the creation of the Exalted server (which arguably split a good number of folks from each server to play there)

The end result is fewer folks in the same place to team with. Except for a few servers - the average new player (not affiliated with global channels and such) has a tough time getting teams for things other than dfb. With a split player base, it would be worse. Both games would end up in a spiral down the drain.

If we're going to get a CoH2, why devote so much effort on making new zones, a new starting experience, revamping old zones, and having an issue that's jokingly titled "Fix Everything"? Seems like it'd all be wasted if a new game's on the horizon.

A superhero game that I would like to play is "Universe Of Heroes" consisting of a character creator like this one, an entire galaxy or universe to travel and explore in like Spore, and civilizations that you could destroy, become their god, protect, whatever. I am imagining more of a single player game than an MMO. Not really a COH2, but as mentioned, I would hate to leave what I have here unless I could take it with me and if I could take it with me it really wouldn't be much better than we currently have here since it would be cursed by all the baggage.

EA are bad, Activision are worse. Ncsoft ain't exactly angels either.