Dark Knight Rises *there be spoilers here, seriously don't click if you don't want spoilers*

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People are entitled to their opinions of TDKR, however this is not a direct sequel to TDK....as it was stated from the get go, 8 years had passed... Should Nolan have made a passing reference to the Joker? Perhaps, then again I read a bit that said Nolan did not do it out of respect for Ledger... So take that as you will.

I think folks need to realize that TDK and TDKR are 2 seperate films. People are stating that the first part of the movie had nothing going on??? I do not know which version they were watching, however I saw the version where a larger airplane latches onto a smaller airplane. Not every movie needs to be action, action, action.... This movie was geat and a fitting end to the Christopher Nolan Batman Trilogy. Now DC can go screw it up again by doing versions similar to Batman Forever and Batman & Robin....

Wow. Just figured out which movie TDKR reminds me of.

The World is Not Enough.

Not a 100% match of course. But the parallels are fairly obvious.

Bane: Reynard
Talia: Elektra King
Batman: Bond
Catwoman: Christmas Jones

Basic Plot: Weaponizing a Nuclear Reactor
The Dragon's Demise: Getting his chest blown out/through.

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Nit pick - Bruce moved to Italy, not Paris.

Personally I thought this was the best of the series. Bane was weak but looping back to R'as and Talia made up for it. A second theater viewing is inevitable.

I watched the first two films before seeing TDKR last night.

I'll agree, the first is the origin, Wayne becoming the symbol that would strike fear into the corrupt and give hope to the hopeless. That's the story arc for the Batman character. But that's not all that happens here. There is a thread that starts in Begins for Bruce's story arc as well. I'll get to it in a bit.

But in the second, he is looking for a way to stop being Batman. Bruce wants that happy life with Raechel and in the end, believed that she wanted that with him too. He's even willing to come out and publicly admit to being Batman until Dent take does. Dent convinces him before "outting himself" that Gotham still needs Batman. In the end, Batman takes the blame for Harvey's crimes because the city still believed in Harvey Dent.

If Joker's plan to have the city lose it's champion in Harvey come to light, the city would plunge back to darkness.
By Batman taking the blame, Harvey stays clean.

8 years later in TDKR we are shown the results of that action. The Dent Act putting away all those criminals into prison with no parole. While Batman was able to take the blame, Bruce couldn't come to terms with the loss of Raechel's life - the loss of his dream to live a life with love.

Alfred makes it quite clear to the audience, Bruce may have stopped being Batman, but he never moved on. Which is why we get the ending we do. It isn't slapped on, its the completion of the character arc started from TDR. If he stayed Batman, or died as Batman, then he still never moved on as Bruce.

Which is is alluded to all the way back in Begins, where Raechel tells him that Bruce is the mask and until he's willing to stop being Batman and become Bruce again, they can't be together. So forward to the end of TDKR, while Bruce doesn't end up with Raechel, he does learn to let Batman go (for himself) and once again become Bruce Wayne, only with Selina Kyle.

With regards to those who allude Selina Kyle as "99% woman" as I've seen here and also mentioned in some critic reviews, I don't by it. Unless the 99% are suppossed to be represented by thieves who are willing to steal from the rich to fulfill mostly selfish ambitions. Well, I guess some people might view that as appropriate, but in watching the film, I didn't see that as her representation.

In fact the allusions of the 99% thing I think are mostly misplaced. After all, the people that end up taking over Gotham are the criminals, being led by Bane. The new "justice system" by Crane who is also a criminal. Besides those haning out at the court, I get the impression that most people have taken to hiding in their homes.

Personally, I think that TDKR is in a sense, the perfect bookend of this trilogy. It ties off the arcs begun in BB. The ride took off with BB, that crested with TDK, and comes to rest with TDKR. I found it fun over all with some excellent movie moments provided in all three films.

I don't think this was as good as Avengers, which I contend has been the best super hero movie to date. I do place it well above the average though. I'd give it an 8 out of 10.

There were just certain aspects missing to it. The romance between Bruce and Selina just didn't seem to work for me. I could see why Selina ended up taking to Bruce once she discovered what he was really about. I didn't see it from his end. I didn't get Bruce and Talia at all, as it made zero sense besides "im getting some" which is kind of out of character for Bruce.

And finally, Talia's character seemed somewhat under developed, such as her willingness to be blown up by her own bomb to achieve her father's goal of destroying Gotham. Why stay around to die there, sacrifcing not only yourself, but your entire organization effectively ending the LoS which had existed for centuries? None of that made any sense to me outside of total fanaticism. Very seldomly do leaders of fanatical organizations seek to achieve their goal while simultaneously destroying both themselves and their organization.

I thought it was ... ok. Maybe quite good.

I think I liked it better than Batman Begins but not as much as The Dark Knight. Its better paced than The Dark Knight, though. It doesn't have the three acts + an extra one problem that that film did.

Its perfectly fine, the 'twists' are pretty obvious, there is some nice action. I would rate it about the same as The Amazing Spiderman, but definately below Avengers. Worth seeing, but... something lacking.

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The reason he shelved the reactor, seems... kinda dumb. Something that contains nuclear material could potentially be turned into a fairly standard nuclear bomb. Shock horror! Thats a good reason to deny the world clean, renewable power!

I've been critical of the series to this point for many reasons I've argued here on the boards and I won't dredge up a lot of old stuff.

Short reaction. I really liked it, maybe as an entire movie, better than the other two with the exception of the twenty or so minutes Ledger was in TDK. It was a good action movie, but like Nolans vision I wouldn't classify it as a good "superhero" movie.

I think Michael Caine did Oscar nomination worthy work and thought the Alfred stuff really worked. I also really liked Anne Hathaway's take on Catwoman. Very CoH rogue. It was nice seeing a character that actually seemed to enjoy who they were and not get too grounded in the emo reality that I think hurts some of the franchise.

There were plot holes, inconsistencies and some odd character motivations I will admit, but no more than already existed in the Nolanverse. It seemed par for the course, but it was still an enjoyable big budget movie that I think did a good job of closing a chapter in a franchise. (Come on, you know Joseph Gordon Levitt will have a trilogy in the future) Personally I'd love to see a Catwoman movie with Hathaways take on the character.

I loved the ending as a close to Nolans vision of this Batman and that it left the story open ended that even though it may be the last of Bruce Wayne, the ideal of Batman will continue. That has been a pretty consistent theme in this trilogy and I think it worked. And I haven't seen it said yes but when Alfred gave the speech earlier in the movie I couldn't help but think of Ben Affleck's speech to Matt Damon in Good Will Hunting (one of my all-time favorite films) and I loved that it ended in a similar fashion.

I think the series as a whole has problems and suffered from some serious bloat, but find they did a good job drawing it to an ending. Was it better than the Avengers? Uh, no.

B/B+

It was a much better film than The Avengers. The popcorn crowd will probably find The Avengers to be a better movie. But de gustibus non whatever etc.

Turgid comes to mind. Slow. Over thought. Perfunctory. Uninspired. Pretentious. Bloated. I think we now have a new standard for phoning it in. (Chris Nolan I'm looking at you.)

Some one above mentioned plot holes. Plot holes don't necessarily kill a movie. However there are many and they are all the size of Wayne Manor.

Still I give it a "meh". I didn't walk out but I'll never watch it again.

If you want to talk plot holes:

When Bruce was bedding (fireplacing?) Talia, he felt the raised V-shaped scar... and the audience was shown it.

And nothing came of that. Nothing.

I thought, "Aha, Bruce now knows that she's of the League of Shadows!" But... nope.

Then when Bruce was in prison, I thought, "Aha, Bruce will learn here what that symbol meant!" But... nope.

Nothing came of it except to clue the audience in that she's not who she says she is. Which would have been fine if Bruce wasn't fondling it and discovering... nothing.

World's Greatest Detective! Ummmm... no.

It's entirely possible that his mind wasn't exactly on crimefighting at that particular moment.

Also, I don't remember anything about such scars being indicative of membership in the League. It's a bit of a leap to go from "has a scar" to "is lying about her identity" and even further to "is secretly the arch-villain responsible for ruining my life and plotting the destruction of the city".