Discussion: Introducing Tweet Code Thursdays!

Just a little.

In-game events are one of the alternatives listed as an example. Let's keep that in mind.

(Bolding added by me)

The only method...being...the Internet? How are you posting to an Internet forum then, messenger pigeons?

...I realize my points are a little weird, now I'm just having fun.

Originally Posted by EarthWyrm But I do understand that there is an internet rule that any bad idea must be presented by someone at least twice a year to remind everyone who hasn't already read every previous thread on the topic precisely why the idea is bad.

Interesting in how you know my company's internet policies.

Once again, I DON'T have access to twitter during the time that is mentioned...no matter how many people in this forum tell me I do.

And the pizza is unique and can't be purchased anywhere.

You are aware twitter access and cox forum access are not the same thing, correct?

This was in the OP by Hit Streak. You don't need Twitter except if you want to get it using the Twitter method. There will be alternatives. If you're upset that there isn't an alternative right now, I'm sorry. But I hope that knowing that they've listed possible alternatives for the future is a help.

It could be I simply misinterpreted the follow-on comments. The phrasing of "we have many items to give away" (and other numerous red name quotes) had me under the possibly erroneous interpretation that this particular handout will be for a limited time, and then they will move on to the other items. As they stated twitter is the focus right now ("although we might be on servers giving things away"), I am under the impression that those of us without access to twitter or the game during the day will be left out.

I could be wrong. (shrug)

Yeah, seen those in the past:

ADMIN: <insert item here> XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX. First person enters it gets it.

Those tend to go within a second of being announced.

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Not necessarily. Access to the forums does not equal access to the PlayNC site. It also doesn't equal access to Twitter.

Various companies internet usage policies prohibit certain types of access.

Some have hardware in place to handle blocking sites that violate those policies.

For example, the school district I work in blocks Twitter and Facebook. If my phone or iPad are connecting to the internet through the school network, those sites are blocked.

They also block most discussion forums although I was able to get them to put in an exception for these boards since you must have an account to post there.

The main CoH site is still blocked even though the forums are accessible.

The PlayNC site is also blocked by policy.

That being said, due to being in the Technology Department I have an override I can use to access blocked sites if needed to get to things I need for Technical Support issues. We are asked not to use that for Facebook, Twitter or any other sites unless we are at our desk with no one around. Since I'm rarely at my desk except for lunch and the end of the day, that's not a problem.

But, if I were using my override in the classrooms, computer labs, library or offices to access things that have nothing to do with my job, other staff members that don't have that access could, and would, complain and could cause problems for the Technology Department so that we would lose those privileges. I won't do that to myself or to the other members of the Technology Department and I expect the same from them.

Students would likely complain as well, but they have the most restricted access as it is and they complain about everything that's blocked, so we don't pay much attention to their complaints. But when their parents start to complain, that causes the same problems as when other staff members complain if not more.

So yes, it's entirely possible that people can have access to one site but not another. It's also possible that the access is only available to them in specific locations or at specific times.

My work phone is a smart phone. It has Twitter and Facebook built in. Due to the construction of the building there are very few places inside the buildings where I have a cell signal. We are still discouraged from using Twitter and Facebook on our phones while at work, even if we aren't using the wifi network.

I can see how interpretation is really key here, and it's certainly not absolute that they will give things away outside of Twitter; I could be wrong in my defense of the new Thursday freebies, as he didn't say that they will for sure make it available through other means. But in the past when they were giving away Facebook related costume codes they would give them away during scheduled events, as well as player events that asked the development team for special prizes.

It's that sort of interaction that have made me a CoHDev fan; they've earned the benefit of the doubt from me as my default reaction.

Yup, I'm still in this boat. Remember Me, for me, DOES NOT WORK. Just, y'know, as a heads up. In the EU and using Chrome, if that helps?

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

That needs to be changed then

Uh....your reading skills are apparently not as good as you think they are.

People do NOT have the same odds of getting something;
-Slower internet
-Slower reflexes
-Slower typing

Oh look, you just missed the codes because someone was a faster typer. Or you lagged. Or...something.

So...why not offer this promotion in other ways so that EVERYONE has a FAIR shot at it?

Or does that clash with your little bubble-world where you get to high-horse at everyone who dares have their own opinion?

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Absolutely agreed. My point is that by making an item such as this hyper-exclusive, they've sapped some or all of its appeal as a really freaking cool piece and replaced it with competitive, chase-instinct, elitist appeal, which IMO is a terrible appeal to cater towards. (You can see the ugliness of it in this very thread.)

We've been seeing this unfortunate kind of thing creep into the game little by little over the last year, mostly via the Incarnate system (edit: and Super Packs, another source of costume parts that I simply cannot bring myself to care about because of their exclusiveness). It greatly worries me that by all appearances Paragon either lacks the foresight or simple foreknowledge that this kind of thing is mostly loathed, or they largely disregard our oft-given feedback on the forums, instead being guided by raw numbers or just plain stubbornness.

The /em Facepalm promotion wasn't nearly as impactful because it was a cute little bonus. This is an aura with wide, wide appeal and wide, wide potential for use. This is the exact same situation as with many of the Incarnate-locked parts, it's spawning the exact same arguments, and I'm forced to wonder why we're going down this exact same road, a road utterly contradictory to the game's main enduring strength, time and time again.

I also strongly agree that we need to move on from the incredibly weak-sauce promises that limited-time promos will be available "at some other time, in some other place". Outside of a few holiday market items showing up again during sales (Think Tank pack), we haven't seen any exclusives re-appear with wider availability yet, to my knowledge. There needs to be a better system or schedule in place for exclusives, and we need firmer assurances than "eventually later ".

Why? I hate Firefox's layout and memory leaks...and Internet Explorer. I really shouldn't have to expand on that. Even to you.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.

Originally Posted by Captain_Photon NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.

Yeah, those are a drag for sure. The way I've seen the Dev run events go is to have them run trivia contests or guessing games, then they PMed the code to the person that won. It was a lot of fun.

I think we're using "fixed" in a different way. The "remember me" function/feature/red herring stopped working for me several months ago... basically any time I close/re-open a browser (or just sometimes when I've let it sit for a long time) I have to relog.

So....yeah .

Adding to that point: as outputting as it was to have to deal with Game Stop for the Going Rogue pre-order items, it was a pretty sure deal for anyone willing to cough up the cash. At the time I was disappointed because I'd already bought Going Rogue through the Paragon/NCSoft market and this did not count as a pre-order, but I figured in the end it was worth buying the game twice.

My only regret was that GameStop got a big chunk of my money instead of the developers or NCSoft.

I'm still glad that those GR pre-order items eventually wound up in the VIP reward system (though their usefulness was reduced by the introduction of the Death From Below/Drowning in Blood rapid-leveling trials at the same time).

It's not the costume piece that is the issue... it's the method to get it. Really, is it that hard to understand?