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Discussion: Introducing Tweet Code Thursdays!

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By Absolut_,
Posted on: 2012-07-11 13:32 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion

 

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Originally Posted by Texas Justice View Post
He already addressed this. It wasn't as simple as you make it seem. There was a third party that programmed a tab on the Facebook page that pulled from a database of codes. They don't have a way to add such a feature to Twitter.
they don't have a way to code something then have it link back from Twitter to their own servers? I coulda swore that they had some programmers working for them

 

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Why not merge all top social pages....

"MyTweetyFaceBookSpaceTube"
With a hint of tumblr and Flickr in it

And post one promo page


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OK -

I'm getting really sick of everyone wanting everything automatically granted to their account just for having an account in good standing.

These are FREE things people! FREE!

The people who wish to obtain them are pitching tents near twitter.
You have the ability to do so aswell.

People whined because procs were at too low of rates and weren't guarenteed -
soon enough, we'll have procs that will have virtually equivalent draw rates for all players.

People whined that purple recipes weren't easy enough to obtain. Now you can buy them!

I'm sorry, but I like a challenge here and there. If I have to pitch a tent to get a code I want, god dammit I will - and you can too! Stop complaining because the FREE stuff is in limited quantity. You have equal chances of everyone else of obtaining them.

Best of all! This is EVERY Thursday! Don't want to pitch a tent today? Pitch one next week!

I pray the community team takes absolutely none of your complaints into consideration and views this not as our "leaders" but as human beings. It's FREE stuff you wouldn't ever have a chance at obtaining otherwise for the time being - just because someone else beats you to the punch doesn't mean the punch bowl should be refilled immediately for 50,000 other people and yourself. You had the same opportunity to walk over and grab some.

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Originally Posted by Zenlon View Post
Personally, I love this.

What's to complain about FREE stuff that we all have an equal chance of obtaining?

If you don't care about Kirby Dots and never have before - then don't visit the twitter page. If it's something you desire, cast a tent and be ready.
KIRBY DOTS!?!?!?! And you had to put it in a way I will not ever be able to get. I was really looking forward to the possiblity of that getting made too...

I do not have an equal chance of obtaining it. I'm not on Facebook, I'm not on Twitter, nor do I have any desire to be. My cellphone is an older model, and used for making phone calls. It has no clue what an internets is. I'm old and have responsibilities, making my computer time limited. I don't have time to waste running twitter on a browser and checking it every few seconds while trying to get other things done (including what limited time I have to play the game) in the already limited time I have getting to sit in front of it.

With all the above factors in play, tell me how I have an equal chance of obtaining it compared to folks on summer break who are fully integrated (and inundated) in the 'social media' world, and who have phones that can play their favorite music for them while they browse the web, check youtube, and talk to their friends all at the same time?

I'd love the facepalm emote, and I'll be VERY disppointed if this is the only way to get the Kirby Dots. No pressure thus far has been able to sway me to use such services (friends and otherwise) and a few pixels won't either. However, it offends me to some regard that I can't bypass playing some twitter game to get it (or even just being lucky- I ain't that lucky generally) and just buy it at the market. While I'm old, slow, time-restrained, and a bit of luddite, I do have money. Let me spend it.

Free givaway for those who want to take advantage of 'social media'? Fine.

Keeping me from ever getting it because I have no desire or use for 'social media' or I'm not faster than the hundreds of twitch kiddies I have to compete with to get a code in before them? Not so cool.

Frankly, my rant aside, I'm not mad about them using the outlets at hand to promote the game... The more this game's promoted the better! I just want the Kirby Dots, but I still won't sign up for anything just to get them, not that I'd have much of a chance to get them even if I did, and that makes me sad...

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I couldn't agree more.

 

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Originally Posted by Zenlon View Post
I pray the community team takes absolutely none of your complaints into consideration and views this not as our "leaders" but as human beings. It's FREE stuff you wouldn't ever have a chance at obtaining otherwise for the time being - just because someone else beats you to the punch doesn't mean the punch bowl should be refilled immediately for 50,000 other people and yourself. You had the same opportunity to walk over and grab some.
So we're jerks because we're willing to pay for something other people want to compete for so they can get it for FREE?

And again, read my first post. I don't have the same opportunity. Many people don't.

Okay, I'm out. Just got to come home for lunch, now I have to head out and do the grocery shopping, then when I get home, put it away and make dinner (my night to cook). Hopefully I'll get all of that, and my other houshold responsibilites, done in time to log in to play for two hours before I have to go to bed because I have a double shift tomorrow. Welcome to my 'same opportunity' Thursdays.

Just sayin'.

I'm not mad because you guys have a chance at getting something for free. I'm a little butthurt because it's the ONLY way to get it, like the Facepalm I've had no chance at getting (remember, work a double on Friday, even if I bothered to sign up for Facebook, and I wouldn't do that just for an emote).

"I play characters. I have to have a very strong visual appearance, backstory, name, etc. to get involved with a character, otherwise I simply won't play it very long. I'm not an RPer by any stretch of the imagination, but character concept is very important for me."- Back Alley Brawler
I couldn't agree more.

 

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Originally Posted by Zenlon View Post
You had the same opportunity to walk over and grab some.
I see you ignored the posters who laid out why that isn't the case. Nice try though.

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However, getting foamy at the mouth over a COSTUME PIECE really isn't worth slamming a marketing team who's clearly simply looking for ways to expand the community into new arenas.
It happens to be a type of costume part that I have wanted for years. I just about died when I saw this aura in use on some NPCs in the new SSA. I literally posted to the forums while my character died to those NPCs so that I could make sure it was known that I would like a shot at that aura. (I know death doesn't mean much in this game... but it's the principle here.)

I dunno, I am super super excited that this costume piece exists. And for every ounce of excitement I have I developed an equal or greater amount of "vitriol" due to the way in which I will have to obtain this piece. I would gladly pay for this piece on the Market... I can't.

In most situations, I would agree with you, Aurora, but one of the greatest strengths of this game is its costume creator, and limiting such a fiercely desired Aura like this seems... ridiculous, I felt I needed to share that opinion. Apparently, others did as well... lots of others.


 

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Originally Posted by Zwillinger View Post
Yes, we're trying to grow another outlet. There's strategery in them thar hills.



The "code generator" wasn't generating anything at all. It was pulling from a static database of codes. It was also programmed by a third party and was a standalone tab on our Facebook page. Something we don't have the option to do on Twitter.
I've written code using the Twitter API, mostly for auto posting picture links from a gallery. The Twitter API is a lot more straightforward than the Facebook API. Writing a routine that searches for all tweets with "@cityofheroes" and "#gimmethataura", remove duplicates, and slowly send out DMs to the owners is reasonably straightforward. (The tricky part is trickling out the DMs so you don't hit the caps on the API usage.)

Alternatively, one could create a site where you link your Twitter account to it and it just displays the code for you after you do the linking.

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Originally Posted by Lycantropus View Post
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I do not have an equal chance of obtaining it. I'm not on Facebook, I'm not on Twitter, nor do I have any desire to be.

...uhm, yes, you have an equal chance, technically. Twitter is free to sign up for, and is available to anyone with any kind of Internet connection at all. Because you choose not to be on Twitter, you give up your chance to obtain it. Your choice. If you choose to sign up for Twitter just to try and get this code, then more power to you; if you don't choose to, then don't complain that you don't have an "equal chance."

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But I do understand that there is an internet rule that any bad idea must be presented by someone at least twice a year to remind everyone who hasn't already read every previous thread on the topic precisely why the idea is bad.

 

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
I love the idea. The point is not to give away costume codes.

The point is to get people following the City of Heroes account on Twitter. It's not the carrot, it's the stick.

I find it hilarious that people are THIS worked up about an aura. Really? It's not that serious. Twitter can't be monetized, as far as the CoH account goes (it's not a "Promoted post," they don't get money per page view) so that's not a motivation at all.

The motivation is, like they've said, building the community off of the forums; therein lies the problem. Want to know why so many people on these forums hate social media (other than mildly understandable issues with privacy)?

Because forum posters, since the Internet was created, value anonymity more than oxygen. Social media removes that, almost entirely (although Twitter is the least invasive of all). Slinging vitriol and derision at total strangers loses a lot of its deliciousness when those strangers know your name, and your face.

Sadly, I don't believe MMOs in general will ever have a strong presence on social media as it stands now because of the huge gap in sensibilities between gamers (generally speaking) and people who are comfortable with sharing their identities on the Internet.

I run a website with several authors and several hundred thousand daily page views, and social media marketing is a pain in the butt, I know. Especially Facebook. However, getting foamy at the mouth over a COSTUME PIECE really isn't worth slamming a marketing team who's clearly simply looking for ways to expand the community into new arenas. Maybe, just, I don't know, don't worry about it? If you hate social media so much, you should have moved on from this topic the moment you read "Twitter" in the title.

Pushes into social media are important for this game, because it is a SOCIAL game, whether people want to admit it or not. I've played 2 or our 3 main competitors, completely solo, and gave up after a month because it was so incredibly alienating to be by yourself in a game designed to be shared with others.

Marketing is tough. Marketing an MMO *not* by Giant Snow Storm is even tougher. Cut the guys a break, will ya? Or, do what I'm doing; the NCSoft Maintenance isn't even going to be finished before I get home from work anyway, so I'm not worried about it. Will I get the code? Probably not. Am I gonna cry about it? God, no.
This is debatable but trust me the odds are definitely not in your favor of the idea... I look at it as a slap in the face TBQH. So basically you are saying it is ok to piss off your FAITHFUL community in hopes to get a few more add-ons that may or may not be as faithful as the ones that have been here? All because you have faith they will stay regardless of what you don't give them? The thought of me seeing a yes in reply to my question is already boiling my blood, but that was the problem with a lot of businesses that were closed on after the market crashes...

LOL and Zenlon's post I do not even want to begin to reply to that one. But I will say this: The majority of people are NOT asking for it for FREE we just want an equal opportunity to BUY the friggin aura even if it is at a later date. How hard is it to process that request? It should be looked at the same way they market VIP items to premium players. Exclusivity to new comers only will piss off the majority of your player base that pays your salary end of story.

 

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I suggest everyone who is on twitter send out a tweet with the hash tag #CoHFail to let them know (and the twitterverse [is that a word?]) how you feel about this promo

 

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
...uhm, yes, you have an equal chance, technically. Twitter is free to sign up for, and is available to anyone with any kind of Internet connection at all. Because you choose not to be on Twitter, you give up your chance to obtain it. Your choice. If you choose to sign up for Twitter just to try and get this code, then more power to you; if you don't choose to, then don't complain that you don't have an "equal chance."
This is in addition to the other things you just blew off (like my access to the internet, non internet phone, etc...
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Originally Posted by Lycantropus
Okay, I'm out. Just got to come home for lunch, now I have to head out and do the grocery shopping, then when I get home, put it away and make dinner (my night to cook). Hopefully I'll get all of that, and my other houshold responsibilites, done in time to log in to play for two hours before I have to go to bed because I have a double shift tomorrow. Welcome to my 'same opportunity' Thursdays.
And no, I don't have access to a computer at work, and wouldn't have time if I did.

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I couldn't agree more.

 

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Originally Posted by nytflyr View Post
I suggest everyone who is on twitter send out a tweet with the hash tag #CoHFail to let them know (and the twitterverse [is that a word?]) how you feel about this promo
That seems like it would do more harm than good - I'd rather not have a viral anti-marketting campaign for City of Heroes. That just sounds destructive.

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Originally Posted by Zenlon View Post
These are FREE things people! FREE!
Yes, they are free. They are also a part that is iconic in the genre and a costume part. Costume parts are the bedrock of this game. Nothing in this game exceeds costume options, as it is the defining feature of THIS game over every single other MMO out there. By playing fast and loose with the availability of costume parts, they lose the advantage over their competitors.

Zwillinger has said that 10% of people go to the forums and only around 5% post. Well 90% of the posters in this thread have told them this type of contest is a bad idea.

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The people who wish to obtain them are pitching tents near twitter.
You have the ability to do so aswell.
I do. I work from home. I also have a decent internet connection. Yet I think that it would be a far more useful use of my time to create the automation for mass code distribution than to sit at twitter.

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Originally Posted by Zenlon View Post
People whined because procs were at too low of rates and weren't guarenteed - soon enough, we'll have procs that will have virtually equivalent draw rates for all players.

People whined that purple recipes weren't easy enough to obtain. Now you can buy them!
You really don't understand what is going on, do you? Those are an unlimited (in terms of time), and Purple recipes were able to be sold from the 1st day. The store bought versions

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You have equal chances of everyone else of obtaining them.
Bull excrement. Slow connections, mobility problems, inability to get to the NCsoft master account (even when it is up) are all factors beyond player's control.

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It's FREE stuff you wouldn't ever have a chance at obtaining
And people said that they would gladly pay for it.

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You had the same opportunity to walk over and grab some.
You keep saying that, but you obviously don't have the first clue as to what you are talking about.



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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
...uhm, yes, you have an equal chance, technically. Twitter is free to sign up for, and is available to anyone with any kind of Internet connection at all. Because you choose not to be on Twitter, you give up your chance to obtain it. Your choice. If you choose to sign up for Twitter just to try and get this code, then more power to you; if you don't choose to, then don't complain that you don't have an "equal chance."

You also missed the parts about:

  • Not everyone has a phone that can accept tweets.
  • Not everyone has not responsibilities and can sit in front of a computer all day refreshing a page.


Way to try and cherry-pick an argument just so you can be "right".


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I look at this the same way I look at my day job, when people call and complain that their french fries are cold with the same anger and fury as if a bum had just urinated on their three-year-old.

Repeat after me, kids:

It's.

Not.

That.

Serious.

Carl and Sons @Aurora Girl (Pinnacle)
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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm View Post
But I do understand that there is an internet rule that any bad idea must be presented by someone at least twice a year to remind everyone who hasn't already read every previous thread on the topic precisely why the idea is bad.

 

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
It's.

Not.

That.

Serious.
In the grand scheme of things? No, it isn't. Of course.

However, within the limited scope of the game? Within the more limited scope of costumes? Yes, yes it is extremely important, significant and "serious."


 

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
I look at this the same way I look at my day job, when people call and complain that their french fries are cold with the same anger and fury as if a bum had just urinated on their three-year-old.

Repeat after me, kids:

It's.

Not.

That.

Serious.
Yet here you are. Arguing so vehemently about it as well.

Relax. It's not that serious!


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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
You also missed the parts about:

  • Not everyone has a phone that can accept tweets.
  • Not everyone has not responsibilities and can sit in front of a computer all day refreshing a page.


Way to try and cherry-pick an argument just so you can be "right".
Who said anything about a phone? I never said anything about a phone. I have an iPhone, and Twitter, but I'm not about to set a notification because it would kill my (already heinous) battery life.

No responsibilities...yes, it's unfortunate that not everyone has a 9-5 job and will be home, in front of a computer, when the maintenance is completed and the codes start going out. I understand that.

Again...it's a costume aura. Just a costume aura. Not an insta-50, or a new powerset, or new AT. A costume aura. Some people care more about their costumes than the actual gameplay, and that's great, because it drives designers to create more costume pieces, thus creating more creativity and happiness for the entire community. It's just...low on the scale of WE SHOULD ALL FREAK OUT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT!

Something about mountains, and molehills.

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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm View Post
But I do understand that there is an internet rule that any bad idea must be presented by someone at least twice a year to remind everyone who hasn't already read every previous thread on the topic precisely why the idea is bad.

 

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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
You also missed the parts about:

  • Not everyone has a phone that can accept tweets.
  • Not everyone has not responsibilities and can sit in front of a computer all day refreshing a page.


Way to try and cherry-pick an argument just so you can be "right".
What WOULD be fair? As said by a previous poster, we're trying to build the community. This isn't about giving away free stuff to everyone - if they wanted to do that, clearly we'd all have a bunch of free stuff.

I don't have a phone. I'm not sitting at home on my butt in front of my computer 24/7 refreshing Twitter. I have responsibilities. I still managed to get a Kirby Dot aura yesterday.

Meanwhile, we still have freebies weekly in-game! That's right. Twitter isn't the ONLY place to obtain FREE stuff - they give away a freebie in-game almost weekly on the paragon market!

What more free stuff do you all want? There is no fair way to do this. Those who wish to be dedicated will find a way to get the freebies posted on Twitter. I made my Twitter account for City of Heroes. Why can't you?

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Yet here you are. Arguing so vehemently about it as well.

Relax. It's not that serious!
Besides, you're just mad at me because I didn't understand your SS/Inv brute build right away.

However, I did eventually, and it ROCKS. Thank you again for your help. (See, I can be reasonable.)

As for arguing "vehemently," trust me, this is in no way vehemence on my part. It's more a casual attempt to help the world in general get over themselves causing stress headaches over little piddly stuff.

Carl and Sons @Aurora Girl (Pinnacle)
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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm View Post
But I do understand that there is an internet rule that any bad idea must be presented by someone at least twice a year to remind everyone who hasn't already read every previous thread on the topic precisely why the idea is bad.

 

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That seems like it would do more harm than good - I'd rather not have a viral anti-marketting campaign for City of Heroes. That just sounds destructive.
I'd agree. However I can understand where people are coming from when they suggest using a #COHFAIL tag. That is something that the community team absolutely needs to be concerned about because they are ticking off the community.

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
...uhm, yes, you have an equal chance, technically. Twitter is free to sign up for, and is available to anyone with any kind of Internet connection at all. Because you choose not to be on Twitter, you give up your chance to obtain it. Your choice. If you choose to sign up for Twitter just to try and get this code, then more power to you; if you don't choose to, then don't complain that you don't have an "equal chance."
It isn't players not choosing to go to the twitter page that makes your claims false. What makes your claims of "equal chance" completely bogus and an outright fabrication is that people have different internet providers, some are faster than others. It has been proven that by the time an image loads for some people, all 20 codes have been taken, and that is for codes that aren't quick-posted as text. This also applies to logging into the NCsoft account.



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The worst part is that this could be solved with a compromise. Specifically:

We are giving them away on Twitter, for free, during the months of July and August.

On the first Tuesday of September, we'll add them to the paragon store.

Still plenty of incentive to try to win the contest. It's free, meaning no money and you can spend your points on other stuff. And you get it before most people.

But those who don't win the giveaways still know there's a chance coming up, whether they try their hardest to win every time codes are posted or for one reason or another can't/won't try, don't feel frozen out.

And... Paragon Studios gets money from the sale of the aura.

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
I look at this the same way I look at my day job, when people call and complain that their french fries are cold with the same anger and fury as if a bum had just urinated on their three-year-old.

Repeat after me, kids:

It's.

Not.

That.

Serious.
I look at it this way:

cold potatoes ARE that serious, at least the urine is warm, and most of us are not kids, but adults who pay for a game we believed would treat the community fair, but this is not fair. So like EVERYONE else on here are speaking their minds and demanding answers for the things they (Marketing) are doing and how most are suggesting other more beneficial ways of going about the exact same promotion, you come to the aid like you are some hired security officer in defending their wrongs that could have been right, but in doing so you give impartial "cherry picking" arguments to make yourself look right. If you ask me the only kid here is you in utilizing that method.

 

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Originally Posted by Aurora_Girl View Post
Some people care more about their costumes than the actual gameplay, and that's great, because it drives designers to create more costume pieces, thus creating more creativity and happiness for the entire community. It's just...low on the scale of WE SHOULD ALL FREAK OUT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT!
To you, apparently. Your statements are not objectively true as you seem to be asserting.

I happen to be among the group who is more worried about how my character looks, than the numbers behind the powers.

Could you imagine the fervor if they -were- doing this same promotion for a unique Power Set? I can't.