Remember Mayhems/Safeguards?

Remember how you put them at five level intervals, and attached an Exploration badge to each?

Remember how you made a very nice and useful accolade power for getting all of them?

Remember how you made it so these missions can be easily outlevelled, forcing you to either live without said accolade or spam lowbie area chat with LFTs, hoping against hope that someone else in this game still does Mayhems/Safeguards?

Remember when you introduced a system which allowed you to repeat any mission except the above?

Yeah that.

Remember that?

Can you freaking fix it finally!?

Uh....what? What the hell does this have to do with PLing? I....I don't even.

Back to logic and the OP; /signed. Very signed

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I don't think it is broken.
Getting a mayhem badge that you out-leveled just require you to make a team. I don't see anything wrong with that, certain challenges in most multi-player game require players to collaborate. This hurdle also make the badges more desirable. Firebug = respect

I'm fine with making badges easier to obtain if they are difficult due to bugs or unintended effects of game play mechanics. But increased popularity in a certain playstyle choice (as PL) is not a valid reason for it.

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They need to add them to Ouro, a string of scanner missions then the bank mission so that people can grab the badge.

The idea of forcing a player to team or do missions while in a certain level range to get a badge doesn't reflect this "Freedom" the game is supposed to be all about now.

i was thinking about this the other day, and was like,'i bet if i used my second build slot i could do radio mishes at the levels i needed to get the bankjob i needed, and level up to get in the range of the next bankjob i needed.'
i think im gonna try that on a toon.he wont be all enhancemented out, but it might help me get the couple badges i needed.
maybe it might help someone else, too.

The only problem I have with Ouroing them, is that they don't really 'fit' as Ouro missions. Every Ouro mission in the list has some story element to it: bank missions...not so much (they are, after all, just a 'stop the robber'/'rob the bank' with a few little side goals type mission).

That said, putting them in Ouro, IMO, would be the last option as opposed to other ideas to increase access or make them more likely to be run in the first place.

And to the comment about 'being careful with your leveling' and whatnot in regards to getting the explore badges. Some badge toons were made prior to being able to switch sides, or other features that make it easy to 'not miss any content'. Yeah, I know we have ways around that now as mentioned before, but some would prefer some means of those badges without having to (essentually) beg a lowbie to use their mission to get that badge (that just feels wrong to me....). That said, if said lowbie freely offered the chance for higher levels to use his/her mission to get it, that's another story: but how often do you see that happening?

Every time I ask for it, but then im on a server with a decent set of people

IIRC, the devs have indicated that they wanted make the Mayhems/Safeguards available for Flashback, but there are technical reasons why they can't.

I suspect it's not just for story reasons that Ouroboros may crash into the sea.

I'd like the Mayhems in Oroborous, not because I outlevel them (I almost always hit them at the right levels) but because I REALLY like them, and even at 50 I'd like to do more than rob the same bank over and over. I want to revisit those glory days of beating down the Paragon Heroes and blowing up cars across the city.

So I vote yes for Mayhems in Oroborous.

I guess Safeguards too for those who want them, but I think those are dull.

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As Gob said, the easiest solution to Mayhems/Safeguards is to let the player still take newspaper/radio missions, but exemplar the player/team down to the appropriate level.

So, if I'm in King's Row at level 50, and I want to do the Atlas Safeguard, I just bring up the radio, pick a mission and when I enter the map it brings me down to level 9 (one below the cap). I don't see HOW that'd be difficult to implement.

It always somewhat bothered me that the message when you outlevel a zone is "These are beneath your notice", which felt a little alarming when I play a hero who doesn't mind helping the police.

Plus it would solve the problem of getting the accolade. Right now, the current leveling path basically ignores Radio/Newspapers until the 20s.

Not sure if this is possible either, just a brain storm.

Let's say your level 50 and wanting some of the lower level Mayhem/Safeguards.

So you run your required 5 (or whatever it is at 50) Paper missions, then go to your contact. Instead of your contact only listing a specific Mayhem/Safeguard, s/he gives you a list of options for you to choose from. Everything from Atlas to Peregrine Island. If you choose a lower level Mayhem/Safeguard you are exemped to that level for the duration of the mission. Flavor text could read something like "Even though your high and mighty, Atlas Park still has some pretty good loot for you!". Heroes, of course, should be protecting the city no matter how epic the bank's loot is.

However, for the exemp to work, I'm gonna guess it has to be coded like a TF or something, so I don't know how practical it is.. The idea just popped in my head..

I wouldn't have a problem with an Ouroboros arc that generated 3 or 5 random paper missions at the given level and then the final mission of the "arc" being the safeguard or mayhem mission.

And if it can't be random, just pick 3 or 5 paper missions, hard code them into the arc and have the mayhem/safeguard at the end.

The Night Ward arcs were just recently added into Ouroboros so it shouldn't be too difficult to throw a string of 3/5 missions and the mayhem/safeguard (Standard code rant withstanding).

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