So I built Excalibur... Pendragon Spoilers
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Posted on: 2012-06-04 23:37 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Same way her ended up one in our world: mortally wounded by his ******* son Mordred.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
I don't believe this is mentioned anywhere in the storyline (Unless I missed it) but when you build Excalibur for a Titan Weapons character a dialogue box pops up:
"These fragments are of the mighty Excalibur sword. A blade wielded by Pendragon, the PRAETORIAN VERSION OF HERO 1 So Pendragon is Hero 1? I find this pretty interesting. Edit: Does leave the question, how did Praetorian Hero 1 end up in the Black Knights? Also what blade did Hero 1 in our world? |
In all seriousness though, this all depends on what Hero 1's connection to King Arthur Pendragon was, as to my understanding, you need some connection to the family line and a noble spirit to wield Excalibur.
Is he a descendant? (Which would mean in theory he's actually descended of Mordred, would also explain the surname.) Is he a reincarnation? Maybe just a spiritual successor of someone so like King Arthur, it's pretty much the same person.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Good question. I'm still unclear on exactly what/who/how the Black Knights are. I know their purposes, and from the description, they are apparently dead souls, so presumably Pendragon died at some point? (Maybe during the Hami Wars?)|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
Edit: Does leave the question, how did Praetorian Hero 1 end up in the Black Knights?
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In any event, if you want to learn more about the Knights and Pendragon, you should play through Night Ward and Belladonna Vetrano's story arc.
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| Also what blade did Hero 1 in our world? |
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Hero 1 used Excalibur, and he gave it to Ms. Liberty before he left to fight the Rikti. It's the sword she wears on her hip. She can't use it, but I think the scabbard is supposed to convey healing powers.
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
Also what blade did Hero 1 in our world?
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Ok thats what I thought, what confused me was the Praetorian version is a gigantic sword and in Primal it looks like a dagger.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
Hero 1 used Excalibur, and he gave it to Ms. Liberty before he left to fight the Rikti. It's the sword she wears on her hip. She can't use it, but I think the scabbard is supposed to convey healing powers.
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
So Pendragon is Hero 1? I find this pretty interesting.
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Well the Praetorian version is explicitly mentioned to have been corrupted by darkness, and we all know that whenever Excalibur is made into an unholy sword, it grows to ridiculous proportions, regardless of media.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
Ok thats what I thought, what confused me was the Praetorian version is a gigantic sword and in Primal it looks like a dagger.
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Arturia "Saber" Pendragon of TYPE-MOON's Fate/Stay Night franchise demonstrates:
Here we see the Holy Sword of Promised Victory; Excalibur in its normal form, albeit semi-invisible.
Here is that same blade after it, and its wielder have been tainted by darkness:
You can see she went from a Broadsword character to a Titan Weapon character with sufficient corruption.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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I am not too familiar with Excalibur lore, are you joking or is this true in most media? If its true, thats pretty interesting.
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Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
Well the Praetorian version is explicitly mentioned to have been corrupted by darkness, and we all know that whenever Excalibur is made into an unholy sword, it grows to ridiculous proportions, regardless of media.
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What does it loook like?
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I think that's just an anime thing. They have a fetish for oversized weapons :\
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Originally Posted by Ultimus
I am not too familiar with Excalibur lore, are you joking or is this true in most media? If its true, thats pretty interesting.
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Does anyone have a pic of the sword... Or an explanation of how to craft it? Can a level 50 character do this retroactively? I'm actually actively looking for a pic to show to someone.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
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It's a costume recipe like Maelstrom's pistols. When Nega-Pendragon (possibly Excalibur too) is defeated in the Magisterium trial there is a chance it will drop to someone on the league. |
Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Does anyone have a pic of the sword... Or an explanation of how to craft it? Can a level 50 character do this retroactively? I'm actually actively looking for a pic to show to someone.
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And any Titan Weapons character can go to Ouroboros after completing the trial and unlock the costume via Merits. (I believe Empyrean).
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...ostcount=10236
Obviously it's not being wielded by a player there, but the unlock looks the same, and is colorable. You can unlock it with a recipe which drops in Magisterium (currently going for ~900 million, sheesh - hopefully that will drop once people stop farming the first phase and figure out how to complete it consistently?), or you can unlock it with 10 Empyrean merits, but only on a character that has completed the Magisterium trial. Maelstrom's Pistols 2.0, basically.
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Yeah, so much for my enthusiasm about it.|
Originally Posted by khorak_EU
The only decent Titan Weapon that'll actually work with the animations....and it's beyond endgame. Hooray!
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Thanks for letting me know, though. At least I can stop wishing I had it now that I know I can't. Can we at least get a few medieval-looking Titan Weapons that AREN'T tied to a major NPC, then?
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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I know, right? I mean there are some serious real life titan weapons out there, or things close to them such as the actual German Zweihander.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Yeah, so much for my enthusiasm about it.
Thanks for letting me know, though. At least I can stop wishing I had it now that I know I can't. Can we at least get a few medieval-looking Titan Weapons that AREN'T tied to a major NPC, then? |
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
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Something that got me thinking on the subject is I'm working on explaining a character concept for an artwork commission. For the first time in a LONG while, this has had me thinking outside the confines of what the game has to offer, since artwork can be anything, and in no place was this more painful than with Titan Weapons. I mean, I get that the set's theme makes it so broad we're never going to see too much of any one kind of weapon but... At the same time, it just feels weird to me that we got all of those bizarre weapons and we didn't get a single regular-looking one. Well, possibly except the Minotaur Axe.|
Originally Posted by AzureSkyCiel
I know, right? I mean there are some serious real life titan weapons out there, or things close to them such as the actual German Zweihander.
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But that's OK, I understand technical limitations and time constraints. But when we finally DO get a decent real-looking Titan Weapon, what happens? It gets locked behind what seems intended to be by far the game's hardest task, and still locked behind a random chance drop. I don't know this for a fact, but I can't imagine even WoW loot is this unwieldy to obtain, since I think an item drops for every member.
I mean, it's a cool sword. I'd buy it. But I can't have it when it requires a high-tier raid and I can't use it when it requires a character who has Titan Weapons and has participated in this thing, which I plain do not have. I have a Titan Weapons character who could use the weapon, but she can't.
"Disappointing" is the word I'm looking for, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Wait, can you unlock his pistols with Emp merits now? Cause I've got a DP Fender sitting at low incarnate that might be worthwhile on. Not that I ever play her, storm isn't as fun as i thought it might be...
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showp...ostcount=10236
Obviously it's not being wielded by a player there, but the unlock looks the same, and is colorable. You can unlock it with a recipe which drops in Magisterium (currently going for ~900 million, sheesh - hopefully that will drop once people stop farming the first phase and figure out how to complete it consistently?), or you can unlock it with 10 Empyrean merits, but only on a character that has completed the Magisterium trial. Maelstrom's Pistols 2.0, basically. |
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If the character has completed the TPN Campus Trial, yes.
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Originally Posted by Miakis
Wait, can you unlock his pistols with Emp merits now? Cause I've got a DP Fender sitting at low incarnate that might be worthwhile on. Not that I ever play her, storm isn't as fun as i thought it might be...
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Both trial-locked costume parts annoy me on principal, moreso thanks to their stupidly stupidly stupid chance of stupid drop rate.
As if the Ascension armour wasn't bad enough...
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I thought it was pretty obvious that Pendragon was the Preatorian Hero 1, as soon as he mentioned Excalibur.
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I do think that if you purchase it via Ouroboros that it should be unlocked account wide while the recipe can be used to unlock it for that character only.
That would seem a lot more fair than the current version imo.
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I'm betting Pendragon could use it, now that Desdemona has separated him from his Nega-self.|
Originally Posted by Lord_Nightblade
Hero 1 used Excalibur, and he gave it to Ms. Liberty before he left to fight the Rikti. It's the sword she wears on her hip. She can't use it, but I think the scabbard is supposed to convey healing powers.
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Or at least, I would be interesting to see him and Honoree duke it out for the sword.
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Hero 1 as stated used excalibur he is a decendant of the pendragons(by blood or by spirit) Excalibur it's self is essentially an incarnate level artifact and depending on it's wielder changes size and shape.
Hero 1 is exceptionaly powerful in combat hand to hand and with a weapon so it makes sense he uses a on handed broad sword version of the blade freeing a second hand for metric F*tons of damage with a free hand.
Miss lib can't use the blade so it would make sense that it is a tiny thing put out of the way, I also belive however that the scabbard protects her.
pendragon even before claiming the sword used only titan weapons and some magical dark blast attacks hence why excalibur became a titan weapon for him.
How I see it from the story arcs and all the lore I could find out about the two characters our version of hero 1 could handily whoop the crap out of pendragon (possibly even tyrant) without excalibur if he wasn't bat poo crazy from the rikti mind ****. And with excalibur practilly nothing could stop him hence the extreme urge to keep the blade the hell away from him currently.
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I don't see why. You can purchase them on an appropriate character from Ouroborous. And if it's the fact it's costumes gated behind Incarnate Content, then there's still alternatives (Dark Astoria).|
Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Both trial-locked costume parts annoy me on principal, moreso thanks to their stupidly stupidly stupid chance of stupid drop rate.
As if the Ascension armour wasn't bad enough... |
If the issue is that it's a locked costume set, well...that's a whole 'nother can of worms.
I don't believe this is mentioned anywhere in the storyline (Unless I missed it) but when you build Excalibur for a Titan Weapons character a dialogue box pops up:
"These fragments are of the mighty Excalibur sword. A blade wielded by Pendragon, the PRAETORIAN VERSION OF HERO 1
So Pendragon is Hero 1? I find this pretty interesting.
Edit: Does leave the question, how did Praetorian Hero 1 end up in the Black Knights? Also what blade did Hero 1 in our world?