Paragon Market Releases (WHY U NO STAFF?)
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Posted on: 2012-04-03 10:40 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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If the Devs are working under some kind of internal guideline of giving us "one new retail powerset per quarter" I would think that at best that's a working goal instead of some kind of fixed rule that can't be broken for any reason. As a player I'm not going to put -that- much stock in something like that.
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Originally Posted by Rubberlad
I thought the golden rule was one retail powerset per fiscal quarter? In which case, we just started a new quarter, so...
Oh dear, its gonna be a long wait for a new powerset after staff goes live, isn't it? |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
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While it does not fit the real world definition of Liger, it conforms to the one shown on Napoleon Dynamite.|
Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
Hell, it's not even a proper Liger ffs!
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The problem is, the GMOTD doesn't "pop" reliably.|
Originally Posted by Zombie Man
As long as it was used sparingly (i.e., not updated hourly since it pops up and, in general, pop ups are evil
 ), may I suggest using the GMOTD that gets updated on Tuesdays with the current and next few weeks' worth of WSTs and Market releases. |
Sometimes, it'll pop when I log on. Sometimes, it'll pop when I zone the first time. Sometimes, it just never does.
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Release one at a time.|
Originally Posted by GuyPerfect
I'd tell you to leave the BSing to marketing, but then I remember you ARE marketing. (-:
I agree that Staff Fighting shouldn't go on the same day that Beast Mastery is on sale, as a point of business. But the notion that doing so would overload the poor pea-brained minds of the players to the point that they can't make time for them both? That's a load of crap. |
Players: "AUUUGH!!! WHY U NO 2 SETS!"
Release both at the same time.
Players: "AUUUGH!!! CASH GRAB!"
Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
I'm not Marketing. Community does not equal Marketing at Paragon.
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So you're marketing...lite?
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Release one at a time.
Players: "AUUUGH!!! WHY U NO 2 SETS!" Release both at the same time. Players: "AUUUGH!!! CASH GRAB!" Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. |
Well I could see that if Titan Weapons and Staff Melee were released at the same time.
But Beast Mastery and Staff Melee are two entirely different playstyles.
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I don't even know what that is, so... Irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
While it does not fit the real world definition of Liger, it conforms to the one shown on Napoleon Dynamite.
*scratches his staff itch* |
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i would say to have a release schedule similar to how we have the weekly tfs schedule, at least it would calm poeple down who really want something and allow us to plan more accordingly with points instead of hoard them until something we do like happens to pop up this week or next week ect
i too was in the group that was expecting staff fighting this week, heck i was expecting staff fighting before beast mastery since the beast mastery set was accidentally leaked like a week or 2 after staff fighting was on beta
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Two more weeks of whining, crying and tantrums?
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Originally Posted by Lothic
If you are of the position that it's "long overdue" now what's another week or two going to add to that?
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I actually figured Staff wouldn't be released until a month after BM just because it would allow another tick of stipend points for VIPs to prevent the perception of "point gobbling".
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
What a lively morning!
We're extremely happy and flattered that so many of you are so excited for Staff Fighting. While I know many of you are upset that it's not released now, we also have to be responsible with the cadence of releases on the Paragon Market. What do I mean by that?
Again, we're extremely flattered and grateful for the excitement being shown about Staff Fighting. Take comfort in the fact that your stick waving itch should be scratched Very Soon. |
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Originally Posted by bpphantom
I actually figured Staff wouldn't be released until a month after BM just because it would allow another tick of stipend points for VIPs to prevent the perception of "point gobbling".
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If that's the case then maybe they should of relased staff melee first, seeing as Beast mastery is a little bit broken and could of done with another months baking?
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The single thing that generated the most angst and threads were the Supergamble Packs. I don't believe that Paragon Studios is worried about the perception of the money grab. That train left the station long ago.
They could not be worried about that perception since they have to sell new/updated stuff every single Tuesday of the year. This was clearly understood and NOT perceived that the store was FULL of money grabbing items. Most of us are in fact fine with that, we buy what we want and don't what we don't want...simple.
The money grab issue should NEVER EVER be a consideration in delaying a powerset ready, level bumped and tested four months ago. That is the booty part in all of this. But hey lesson learned right Paragon? 
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
To reiterate: Staff has been ready for quite a while (excepting maybe audio). Beast Mastery was pushed out early, broken.
Me, I am voting by not spending any points til Staff comes out.
Yeah, I am an old school kung fu movie fan. I have alts all prepositioned for this. It'd be different if there was some functional, in-game reason for the delay. You know, sort of like the reason Beast Mastery should have been delayed.
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I´d be fine with a thread like the one for the WST as well.
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Originally Posted by SolarSentai
Or it could be posted on the forums like the WSTs are
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Nope nope nope(as the marketing geek rushes into the board meeting). "That would not allow us to set up our four legged rig fix." Meow.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
If that's the case then maybe they should of relased staff melee first, seeing as Beast mastery is a little bit broken and could of done with another months baking?
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
Well I could see that if Titan Weapons and Staff Melee were released at the same time.
But Beast Mastery and Staff Melee are two entirely different playstyles. |
Sorry, you're trying to make it conditional.
I'm saying it's not.
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I am right there with you on the old school Kung_Fu motif.
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Originally Posted by Rocket_Bob
Yeah, I am an old school kung fu movie fan. I have alts all prepositioned for this. It'd be different if there was some functional, in-game reason for the delay. You know, sort of like the reason Beast Mastery should have been delayed.
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The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
TBH, I'm looking forward more to Retro Sci-Fi than Staff. Still have a BS/SD Scrapper to level along with my Street Justice toon.
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This sums it up very well. Like Darth I have a bit of rage today.
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Originally Posted by Reppu
I can sum up what Darth is saying with a little less rage;
It's extremely poor to release the set that had barely any testing, and hold back the set that was tested since December. On top of that, a Set people have been wanting for years is being held back versus a niche set that was, again most importantly, poorly tested. Top it all off with Paragon Studio's lack of concrete release dates = people are pretty pissed we're getting the 5th and 6th blatant shelling of the four-legged rig niche instead of stuff MORE people want, aka Staff Fighting. |
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Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
While it does not fit the real world definition of Liger, it conforms to the one shown on Napoleon Dynamite.
*scratches his staff itch* |
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Originally Posted by FloatingFatMan
I don't even know what that is, so... Irrelevant.
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But what's more important to me is that now we know that this game has no problem copying creatures from movie sources I think it's high-time they get around to giving us a "Killer Rabbit" pet from Monty Python's The Holy Grail.
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Well there was the whole thing Z mentioned about not wanting to release another melee powerset first. I mean, the purchased powersets have been, what?|
Originally Posted by CactusBrawler
If that's the case then maybe they should of relased staff melee first, seeing as Beast mastery is a little bit broken and could of done with another months baking?
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1. Beam Rifle (Freedom launch?)
2. Street Justice
3. Titan Weapons
4. ???
So if Staff had been #4 instead of Beast Mastery, then we would have gotten an entirely different kind of whining (Y U MELLE ONLY?!)
Would it have been as bad as this? Who knows.
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My husband already has a character ready to go for THAT one, then... |
Originally Posted by Lothic
Even though Ligers exist in real life it's plainly obvious that the visual appearance of the one we got in this game is copied almost exactly from the one that Napoleon Dynamite drew in the movie of the same name. Your ignorance of that doesn't make this point irrelevant in the least.
But what's more important to me is that now we know that this game has no problem copying creatures from movie sources I think it's high-time they get around to giving us a "Killer Rabbit" pet from Monty Python's The Holy Grail. |
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Oh dear, its gonna be a long wait for a new powerset after staff goes live, isn't it?
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