[Spoilers!] Who is the Well?
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Posted on: 2012-03-26 08:41 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
Prometheus has additional dialog as you complete more trials, so depending on the character you used to check, he might not say it to you.
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Originally Posted by Prometheus
In reality, the Well is and always has been a personage who... agreed... to serve as the connection between humanity and something... greater.
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And I'm still not getting why anyone in this thread thinks that the Well was ever human. Prometheus does say that the Well was around before humanity.
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Originally Posted by 2short2care
I am the well.
That is all. |
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Flambeaux is the Well. She appears in all levels and on all sides to find potential heroes to give the power to.
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That would depress me and make me cry. I am serious, it would be like seeing the Norse gods as children in Erik the Viking... except worse.
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Originally Posted by Dz131
Flambeaux is the Well. She appears in all levels and on all sides to find potential heroes to give the power to.
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So, the big release for 2013 is going to be "City of Heroes: Ascension!" with its own world-building tookit?
Assuming that Faathim gave us the straight scoop, it seems that there are no shortcuts to Ascension. Wade tried but in the end, he was already being consumed by Rularu. ("We are Rularu. We are eternal.")
Apparently our "well" is NOT just a huge pool of raw potential that takes on characteristics of personality that reflect the desires of the Mass Consciousness of humanity. Apparently it is, or at one time was, an actual entity with a gender and an identity.
Attempting to judge whether it is sane or insane is probably a pointless exercise. Human standards don't apply to cosmic entities.
I'd agree that Aqua Vitae (I just dubbed "him" that) was probably never human to begin with. If Rularu is truly an example of an ascended human then it probably doesn't matter anyway. Ascencion would seem to transform one into something that could scarcely be called human.
As an aside, we don't really know for a fact that Rularu is what Prometheus meant by an "unauthorized ascencion" and I'm inclined to believe that he means something else entirely or else he'd be less evasive about it. I rather like the idea of DJ Zero being the "unauthorized" deity. It certainly would help explain why celestial beings keep stopping by his club. Even deities sometimes need a place where they can just let their hair down and relax for a while. It says something interesting about Nemesis, given that some version of him finally achieved Ultimate Power and this is what he did with it...
Prometheus' careful choice of words is worth noting for another reason: it sounds like the entity who became the Well might not have exactly wanted to become the Well. Otherwise, why have the pause before using the word "agreed"?
Apparently Wells can be altered and even consumed, as evidenced by the Battalion. But can they be re-opened, or even have a new Well formed? If so, our current Well might not have been the first Well for our world. And if Wells can be restored or re-opened, that could form the backbone of a very serious strategy to use against the Battalion...
So, clearly, by Prometheus' dialogue, Rularuu = Nemesis/Mender Silos.
It's symmetry. 
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Who is the well you ask well isn't it obvious
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Actually Prometheus suggests he was behind the well being moved... Can't get the piece of information since I can't open the game right now.
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Originally Posted by Nylonus
That's why when you get to the end of the intro arc there is nothing there. Because the Well is already there with you ! ! ! [dramatic music]
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Of course, all of this speculation is dependent on the writers having written the story that far ahead. 
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Considering Prometheus' history and reactions towards it the Well is probably Zeus.
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As much as I find this speculation fascinating, what do you think the odds are that to save the universe we'll still end up having to beat on something until it dies?
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Of course, all of this speculation is dependent on the writers having written the story that far ahead.
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Yeah- in a recent Posi interview (I think it was there), he mentioned they've plotted ahead as far as issue 32 or something like that. Obviously, it's probably not completely written, but they've at least got the broad strokes.
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Originally Posted by Golden Girl
They do plan quite far ahead
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No, they don't. They're making it up as they go along. It's obvious to anyone who's done it themselves. | They do plan quite far ahead |
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Originally Posted by Venture
No, they don't. They're making it up as they go along. It's obvious to anyone who's done it themselves.
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As someone who's run several RPG campaigns that way, it really does look like that, to me. Yeah.
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Originally Posted by Venture
No, they don't. They're making it up as they go along. It's obvious to anyone who's done it themselves.
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Just because you have a plot planned out far ahead of time doesn't mean that you can't also make up things as you go along. It's obvious to anyone who's done it themselves.
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Originally Posted by Venture
No, they don't. They're making it up as they go along. It's obvious to anyone who's done it themselves.
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I'd considered that, too, but Zeus was human.
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Originally Posted by FredrikSvanberg
Considering Prometheus' history and reactions towards it the Well is probably Zeus.
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If you have things plotted out in advance but then insist on improvising in ways that introduce contradictions then ur doin it wrong.
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They are the eggman.
I am the walrus, coo coo kachoo.
Yes, I know the original is "I am the eggman."