Concerned about Scrappers.

You know I've never felt my scrappers needed anything really. Except maybe more enemies to smack around.

Johnny, I say this as someone who is not a fan of Brutes...they didn't steal Fury from Tankers. Tankers would of needed to have had Fury first, for it to have been stolen from them.

As for Brutes vs Scrappers, in another thread this was mentioned, and it's something that seems true enough...Brutes who win out over Scrappers are either using a secondary with a damage aura or using Gloom. Gloom is just that good.

Should be noted Scrappers with damage auras narrow the gap on Stalkers.

Now personally I'd love to see Scrappers get a flat 10% Crit rate against all enemies on all attacks, with 1 attack (I'd say the tier 9 myself) having a 20%.

But then I never liked the idea thatthe crit chance changed on level of enemies.

But there's only one true buff Scrappers need. It'd also be a buff to Stalkers/Brutes/Tankers, but it's a buff Scrappers need! It's one they need to implement without causing the players to wait.

That buff is...

MORE SECONDARIES TO CHOOSE FROM!

Yes, I want my Positional Defense/Regeny/SelfHeal/Smashing Resist Defensive Set! ^_^

For those of you who want some special "shiny", why not just play one of the ATs that you think provide them? I prefer simple, uncomplicated high base damage scale. I don't want to "pay" for my damage by being less tough or have to work at some fancy thing to "earn" it. Why do they have to have a schtick? After all, that is where they are unique - they don't need one to work well. And that is why I prefer them.

Im stunned and maybe even abit disgusted that any scrapper of even the most gimped combo possibly ever imagined could consider themselves needing a new perk to keep thier place in the sun.

There is a reason why even though my favored AT is blaster I only have one of those at 50, while having 4 lvl 50 scrappers. A scrapper just works. They play the game of who is a better killer better then nearly any other AT from 1-50 and virtually all can fill any remaining gaps from power sets like lacking a self heal or enough end recov or DR at the 50+ game thanks to incarnate powers.

Scrappers also just work for SO MANY RP concepts. From martial artist to power armor to alien god scrapper is really the go to AT most of the time.

However due to some new power comboes avialable brutes are looking more appealing. My old dark/regen scrapper would technically operate alot better as a brute when max rage was up. But outside of a few optimal comboes I think scrappers are just fine.

I personally definatly think of all melee sets as filling the same role. Front liner. Thats it. Even when I run with my best bro who is a DPS dealing Ice/SS tank on my scrappers we are just two sides of the same coin. Id like to think scrappers and stalkers along with brutes and tanks can all learn to embrace each other as one large front line badd assskicking bunch. Some of my fastest TF times had only frontliners in the ranks. All scrappers,brutes,tanks, and stalkers make for a good ol time of massive who is the better killer.

Its the only time on TFs you will see folks pray for large map Kill Alls with many rooms just so everyone can spread out and start calling out clear as they empty rooms.

So from a man with a 50 Kat/SR, BS/Regen, MA/Shield,and Claw/WP scrapper I say scrappers are JUST FINE! Or in the words of the ol canuckle head himself " Suck it up, BUB!"

On the topic of inherent powers being updated, as I said in the Beta forums, Scrapper players should view that as a sign of an AT that's been working correctly. Inherent changes have been a sign of perception that an AT is deficient in some way, not some gift that Scrapper players should feel left out because they didn't get.

Critical Hits were effectively the game's first "inhenernt". They didn't call it that back then, but it was the first feature added to an AT with a little icon to tell people it was there. Calling it the AT's "inherent power" was something that came later, after fixes were being tried on other CoH ATs, and the "inherent" was the place they lumped them in. (Defenders got what many people felt was a "no-op" inherent too, because there was ostensibly nothing wrong with them.)

Yes, other ATs have had their inherents revisited, because of on-going or new perceived ills with the ATs. Blasters have had their inherent redesigned completely once, and still are viewed by some (many?) as needing more change. Defenders got their inherent modified to help address the toe-stepping that being able to have heroic Corruptors introduced.

Scrappers got what's now called their inherent during "City of Blasters", when melee damage was seen as second rate compared to Blasters (my, how things change). Since that perception faded many years ago, I don't think anyone has felt that the Scrapper AT needed further "fixing".

Feeling that Scrappers need their inherent revisited just because other ATs did is looking at it backwards. The other ATs had issues, and changes to their "inherent powers" were part of Dev attempts to address those issues. Scrappers should only need their inherent revisited if there were an issue with the AT. Would you feel left out if you didn't get a titanium bone replacement given to someone because their original bone was defective somehow? I know that I would be happy if my original bone worked fine, even if I thought the idea of having a titanium bone sounded cool.