Over/Under on a Patch to get Converters in

The hivemind consensus on I22 was almost dead on. What's your guess on how long it will take for them to release this next patch that will add converters in? Will it have to go to beta first?

I figure this is probably the subforum of the most people thinking what I'm thinking - that I'd have rather had Converters go live and Dark Astoria have "a setting on the beta server which it to work correctly in that environment, but not on live".

So, Marketeers, you're good at figuring out prices. What's your patch guess?

They gave us a LOT of hints about when I22 was going live...

my guess, a week from today, has nothing behind it but that single redname post I read.

Tuesday.

If the bug is fairly trivial (and the indication seems that it is), I'd side with Zombie,
and pick Tuesday on this one.


Regards,
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The converters, Staff fighting are on BETA and ready to go. I hope Tuesday since double xp weekend is coming.

I22.5

Enhancement Converters are not live because they cannot be purchased. The "recipes" for buying them from the various vendors require that you are on the Beta server or that the "coboconv" product is available. Don't ask me how I know, I can't say. I assume the "coboconv" product means Enhancement Converters, and someone forgot to turn that on. Fixing the requirement is very easy, it's just a bit of text, not really even code. I don't know how they enable or disable products, but they could simply delete the requirement if they really wanted Enhancement Converters to go live. I expect them on this coming Tuesday.

I don't know if there are any issues beyond that, but I suspect one of the devs will be doing some testing to make sure there aren't any other problems. They would be pretty embarassed if they fixed things so players could buy Enhancement Converters, but then couldn't actually use them.

Any word on a patch today? After last night's unplanned downtime, I'm less confident about converters showing up today.

Hmmm.... Guess we should have taken the Over...

Glad I didn't wager much.


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Soon™=Whenever the heck we decide to give them to you. Now shut up and get off my lawn.

No betting...

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=286298

DOH!!! Yes Enhancement Converters went live. But you can ONLY buy them with Reward Merits. Not Alignment Merits. Not Astrals or Emps. That ABSOLUTELY SUCKS!!!

So everyone who realized that you can get twice as many Enhancement Converters per reward merit by converting them to Alignment Merits first is screwed. Yes it costs more inf, but that's a drop in the bucket compared to how much you can make converting purples and such. The purple Market will be dead in a few weeks when they finally fix this, with all purples costing about the same. Good thing I plan to use most of my purples. But the PvP market will also be dead, and I was hoping to make some nice Inf off that. While providing PvP Enhancements to those who really want them. I'm a giver.

Only merits actually benefitted me in this. I was mostly using Merits and some astrals/emps (which I converted to merits).

Made 45 bill with under 1 bill investment. On virtue when using /search as I logged in, there were 3 people online there. I'm not a rich person, I'm nowhere near a marketeer, but that blitzkrieg right there just funded a lot of upcoming toons.

Had shield walls and panacea procs selling for 1.4 bill as I was selling them. Good day my friends, good day.

On the Beta server you could buy Converters with Alignment Merits (in Fort Trident or The Crucible), Astral and Emp Merits (in Oro), or Reward Merits (at any Reward Merit vendor). They weren't for sale for 1 Inf just for testing purposes, they were all consistently priced at what appeared to be production values. For 10 Reward Merits and 250K Inf you get 1 Converter. For 1 Hero Merit and 2.5M Inf you get 10 Converters. That's reasonable since for 50 Reward Merits and 20M Inf you get 1 Hero Merit. Based on that, my expectation was that the live prices would be the same or at least consistent, and available for all Merit types.

When Issue 22 went live the "recipe" for creating Enhancement Converters wasn't changed. The recipe requires that a certain "product" is available or that you're running on the Beta server. Well the live servers aren't the beta server, and apparently no one turned on that "product", so Enhancement Converters didn't show up at the vendor. I can understand that was a bug.

The fix that went in today changed the "product" required for the Reward Merit "recipe" only. Apparently that "product" has been enabled in the live build. The "recipes" for Emp, Astral, and Alignment Merits still has the old "product" which apparently still has not been enabled. I hope they will come out with another fix soon that changes the remaining "recipes" to use the working "product". At that point in time it should be possible to buy Enhancement Converters for all different types of Merits.

But by then it will be too late. Mrs. TopDoc doesn't really participate in my marketing schemes, so she had a character with 150 Reward Merits on hand. Just to see what would happen, she bought 15 Converters and started converting some PvP IOs I sent her. The first thing she got was a Glad Armor: +3% Def IO. She immediately sold it, but the price was already down to 1B. I expect that to keep going down. Then she got a Shield Wall: +3% Res IO near the end, but that was already down to 500M. The PvP market will be all tapped out later today, if it isn't already.

I find it hard to believe that the current situation is an accident. Someone had to change the Reward Merit recipe requirements. It's hard to believe that the person responsible for that was clueless about the other ways to buy Enhancement Converters, and didn't bother to look. It's hard to believe that no one reviewing the change realized that it only applied to Reward Merits. It's hard to believe that the people testing this only bothered looking at Reward Merits. The only conclusion is that the Devs intentionally made this change ONLY for Reward Merits. Why?

I can't think of any reasonable explanation, but here is an unreasonable one. The people who are best able to take advantage of the current situation are those people who have a large number of Reward Merits. Conveniently, that happens to be the same people who spent a lot of real $$$ buying Super Packs recently, because you get a lot of Reward Merits with those.

Keep in mind that the fact they didn't go Live last week was a bug.

Also, they won't even get into the office for another 40 minutes.

And... it's not really an emergency like the servers being off line.