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Acroyear2,
Posted on: 2012-02-13 18:35 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
Whats the range of numbers of xp boosters that can drop in each pack?
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
Whats the range of numbers of xp boosters that can drop in each pack?
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Originally Posted by Tymers_Realm
Z has posted in the Dev's Corner the Drop Odds on the Hero & Villain Super Packs.
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24 packs, got all the costume parts. Oh well, I guess that one off drop was worth it. A few AT IOs and over a grand and a half in merits.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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New update, as I was finally able to purchase points for my wife's account. Same as before, $15 worth of points.
I was able to get the entire set within 12 packs on one of her accounts. The other one was 15 packs for the entire set.
No black wolf, but considering the odds, I was not surprised.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
Hfff....
I'm going to swallow my previous statement and lay down on one big set. I have points to spare from when the market first went live and there was a lot of stuff I wanted that needed points. If I can get the entire costume in that one drop, then all's good, I guess... |
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Originally Posted by SwellGuy
This is not any kind of disagreement with you. I was not interested in the costume pieces and I opened 5 packs this morning and got 6 of the 11 pieces. I am sure if I wanted them I would have gotten fewer of them. Murphy's Law, how I hate it.
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Originally Posted by Quasadu
I fully expect to get the Black Wolf pet on at least one of those accounts. |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Tymers_Realm
As mentioned in my OP, Z has a thread in the Dev's Corner listing the percentages. Link in my quote below:
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I really wouldn't.
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Originally Posted by _Klaw_
OK I see now that you get 5 cards per pack. I will be spending my money on Packs instead of XP Boosters now
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I really wouldn't.
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Originally Posted by SwellGuy
I believe his expectation is due to Murphy's Law as neither of those accounts are really ones he plays on. (Note that he called them "buffbots")
so the worst thing for a buffbot account to get are costume pieces and other non-transferables like the pet. |
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Originally Posted by Captain-Electric
I think they'll cave on this eventually but personally, I don't think it's a big deal, for two reasons.
1. Costume pieces and other items are sometimes gated, either behind content, reward tiers, and now super packs. It will make the company some extra money, and in City of Heroes we're seeing lenient trade-offs compared to the historically unfair F2P model; especially when you consider that anyone who spent a few dollars probably has most of the costume set now. By my third super pack, I had most of the set. 2. The real offender in this case isn't City of Heroes. It's the entire F2P model. This is what it looks like. If this [above quote] would make any of you angry, then you may as well start preparing to get angry. At the entire MMO industry. Even if you get your concession this time, the F2P model will eventually gate some other simple purchase behind complicated purchasing obstacles. At some point, Paragon Studios will not be able to cave to your demands and also remain fiscally responsible. The F2P model is a response to the crappy global economy, in my opinion. It isn't here so that we can have freebies. It's a backwards kind of subsidizing model, where a small portion of willing customers pays for ALL of us to enjoy the game. There's a price tag on F2P, but the alternative is worse: watching the MMO market lose publishers and investors. Notice how we seem to be getting MORE issues and other updates since Freedom went live? Someone has got to pay for that, or else it blatantly, honestly, realistically can't exist. The fewer of you who pay that price, the higher the price will rise for those who do; and the more tricks Marketing will have to foist on those doing the subsidizing. It's not because they're meanies. It's because we're all backed into a corner right now. |
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Right and I'm not counting on being as lucky as that guy I mentioned in beta either. I guess if you have to roll like 1 in an 1000 to get it it may always still be possible to get it sooner than later anyway. *shrugs*
Again I just don't like the uncertainty... |
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Originally Posted by Hopeling
There's not a lot of lines to read between, there. If anything, specifically saying "the immediate future" to me says they're at least strongly considering it, but want to wait for the gottahaveitnow types (...like me, I guess) to buy some packs first.
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Originally Posted by terrible_deli
Within 20 packs, I had the entire elemental order set done on both accounts. Being that I only paid an extra $15 to ensure I had enough points (The amount I would have been willing to pay for the set outside of the packs), I'm pleased enough.
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Got the Black Wolf after purchasing some packs. Not sure how many it took though. Maybe around the 90 to 100 mark.
Did anything else go on sale or hit the market today?
Lewis
On the plus side, if you've already unlocked the Shoulders, Backpack and Rifle you have .52% chance of any Very Rare being the Black Wolf Pet as opposed to the .33%. Of course going by the card shuffling and allotment you'll only get a VR card dealt in your pack 79% of the time.
So getting the wolf has anywhere between .41% and .26% chance of dropping everytime you open a Super Pack. Now with luck like that you should be able to hit that exaust port or find a Black Lotus in no time at all...
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Originally Posted by Silver Gale
If we complain about the Super Pack-only costume as soon as we learn about it, it's "too early to make a fuss, wait for more details".
If we complain while it's on Beta, it's "still on Beta, they may change it yet". If we complain when it comes out and the alternate was of getting it is *still* not here, it's "well it's not exactly new information, it's too late to complain now". |
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Originally Posted by Thor's Assassin
Got the Black Wolf after purchasing some packs. Not sure how many it took though. Maybe around the 90 to 100 mark.
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Originally Posted by Aura_Familia
I think the point Katie was making was that if you want a chance of closer to 90% to get it, buy 100,000.
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Originally Posted by CyberTaz
Now with luck like that you should be able to hit that exaust port or find a Black Lotus in no time at all...
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Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
Did anything else go on sale or hit the market today?
Lewis |
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Originally Posted by UnicyclePeon
Did anything else go on sale or hit the market today?
Lewis |
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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman
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Buying the revised Gunslinger Pack sends a much more positive message to Paragon Studios about the business-customer relationship than participating in games of chance on the Paragon Market. |
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Originally Posted by Lothic
Sure I understood that. My point is that not only is there still that 10% chance (after 100,000) that you won't get it but there's also technically a chance that you could get it after the first pack.
Obviously there's a way you can improve your odds, but there are -no- guarantees either way. Ultimately I was sort of making a little joke about it because even though I want the Black Wolf I don't really want to spend hundreds of dollars for it and -still- not get it. At least I could go to eBay and directly buy that Black Lotus if I wanted to... |