Super Packs on the PMarket 2/14/12


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My guess right now, is expect more ATO's and costume set to come from future super packs.
Which is where I'm worried that they'll start hiding the high end stuff behind these things, or really start putting more and more costumes or content behind it. Right now, it's an experiment.

But the booster pack model can turn into a real money sink for players, and a distracting temptation to devs.


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You know what would make this all better? If the unopened packs were tradable. I would spend inf on this, if not real money... but if I spent inf on it, that means SOMEONE spent real money on it, so there's no loss of profit.

It worked for EVE.


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You know what would make this all better? If the unopened packs were tradable. I would spend inf on this, if not real money... but if I spent inf on it, that means SOMEONE spent real money on it, so there's no loss of profit.

It worked for EVE.
Every single time I try to bring up EVE and plexes or a system like that for this game is goes ignored. At least one person around here has some understanding of how good things could be here. Cheers.


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So does this game card minors?

I'm pretty sure gambling has a minimum age in many countries.
I'd quibble on "many", but I think it's pretty clear that CoH Super Packs are *less* gambling-like than CCG card foil packs. In particular, even if you do well above average at point X, you can't funnel that back into more play and have lost it by point Y; which avoids most of the "fail to quit when ahead" problem that's a significant chunk of the risk of gambling problems.

These are the same CCG foil packs that are at the registers at the grocery store between the gum and the celebrity tabloids. There doesn't seem to be a general societal problem with kids *far* younger than are officially supposed to be playing CoH plunking down their hard-earned nickels for a random selection of pocket monsters under conditions that are demonstrably more problematic than the CoH situation.

My personal opinion is that I'm not comfortable with individual accessories for a game having an equivalent price higher than a new AAA game; the Black Wolf is in the neighborhood of five times that if I've done the math correctly. I also have a strong personal preference for fixed-price deals that are clearly described in advance; my experience with random-box deals in other MMOs has not been something I enjoyed or spent much cash on in comparison to the amount I've spent on CoH's previous costume packs. As far as I was concerned, the "Collectable" part of CCG was an annoying and frustrating impediment to the smooth and enjoyable playing of the actual game; and so far that experience seems likely to be similarly poor for the Super Packs.

That said, I don't expect all parts of the game to be equally enjoyable to me, and my general opinion is that attempting to campaign or legislate against entertainment options based on any one person or group's "morality" is frequently more harmful to society in the long run than the "vice" they are complaining about.


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So if I use leftover paragon points from my monthly stipend on super packs..is that gambling? I mean I got the points free as part of my sub so it didn't cost me anything....just saying


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That said, I don't expect all parts of the game to be equally enjoyable to me, and my general opinion is that attempting to campaign or legislate against entertainment options based on any one person or group's "morality" is frequently more harmful to society in the long run than the "vice" they are complaining about.
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I had points left over from buying other stuff (Costume slots, enhancement trays, yada yada) and, judging from the reports of other posters who got the 24 bundle stuff, of close to, I figured it was worth the risk. I was right.

That still doesn't detract from the point that I'm not buying anymore. That's it. That's the one off shot they had. So good luck to 'em.
And the next time you buy points for something you actually like because you spent them on these supposedly terrible Super Packs? You're still spending more money and proving the Super Packs are working as intended... generating profit.

Even better than intended if people openly opposed to them spend points on them anyway.


 

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Maybe I was just lucky, but since I got tons of points, decided to give them a try and bought just 5 packs.
I think the costume pieces drop rate is more than fair, and I unlocked all the pieces, only the boots are missing (Got shard cannon and backpiece too).
And I had no real interest in the costume set, maybe just the belt and the shoulders. Tried just for fun.
Maybe when Im super interested in the super pack 2 I will got no luck and I will be complaining in forums too...


 

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How about now? Can you feel the love now? We're all just one big happy family of CoH players. That's what they say about us and this board, right?

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Disagreeing about a product offered on the paragon market doesn't mean it's still not one big happy family.

We still are.

And funny enough this thread is still here.

Bottom line some folks want to be able to buy some of the items in the packs outright and don't want a chance at the item.

Nothing stated here changes that fact.


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You know what would make this all better? If the unopened packs were tradable. I would spend inf on this, if not real money... but if I spent inf on it, that means SOMEONE spent real money on it, so there's no loss of profit.

It worked for EVE.
brofist o/ \o

I do wonder how the substantial differences between EVE's ingame economy and CoH's would affect that, though. It's an interesting question.



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