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Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 1/24/12

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By Agent White,
Posted on: 2012-01-24 11:19 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion

 

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Originally Posted by Jonny_B View Post
Agreed, the jumping looks off. when i saw the jump animation, I thought of a Sugar Glider(Squirrel).
thats ok, jumping still looks off on Beast Run,should be tilted about 5-10 further forward

 

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Originally Posted by LegionAlpha View Post
Like many who will say this "going to save up and wait til they are on sale".
You got my vote. 600 points so I can look like a Coyote? I'll wait.....

 

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Originally Posted by SmegHead View Post
To those that haven't seen it, the coyote in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sO1fyJ-_o

The price may be a bit much, but I have to admit it is pretty cool.
LOL awesome with the dog chasing the coyote - if only they fixed those pets so they matched speed, then it would be perfect!

 

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This city has gone to the dogs!


Any videos of the Coyote Travel Power in the water? Would love to see the swimming animation.

 

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Originally Posted by SmegHead View Post
To those that haven't seen it, the coyote in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1sO1fyJ-_o

The price may be a bit much, but I have to admit it is pretty cool.

Thanks for posting the video! I do think the power looks cool, but I have exactly the same issues that others have brought up. Namely: Powers that de-toggle rather than suppress are a no-go as far as I'm concerned, and the price is way too high for such specificity. If the vanity pets (and now transformation power) were by species/group, I'd be more inclined to pay 600pp. For instance the "summon canine" power would let you pick from 5 different species (1 at a time of course). OR if that tech doesn't exist and we can only pay for one specific vanity pet/transformation-travel at a time, the cost should be FAR less.

On the other hand, the Paragon market has been out log enough that they must have a decent handle on what people are willing to spend on a given item; one would assume they have data to back up the price point.

IMO, a lot of the "sale" prices have still been overpriced, but at least it has kept me from blowing through all of my points. If Paragon Studios had priced the items on my wish list at what I feel are reasonable prices, I'd have given them double (or possibly triple) the amount of money I already invested. As it is now, I'm sitting on a huge pile of points, unwilling to purchase a lot of wanted items at such high prices. I can only hope that some of the pricier goodies come down later this year or next, but if not, oh well.

 

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Originally Posted by EarthWyrm View Post
Pretty much. Or, never, for travel powers that de-toggle me. Guess I'm too addicted to melee.
I really, really want to like all these vanity travel powers, but...most of my characters run between 6-10 toggles each, and I can't find a use for a power that forces me to retoggle for 30 seconds after every use.

We need toggle suppression technology!

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Any stats on the travel abilities?

If it were up to me Ninja and Beast run would have the best jump ability.
Carpet and RB best fly.
Coyote should have much more limited jump and unmatched running.

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I am waiting for the pogo stick travel power, think how much fun that will be in first person view.

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I like the general idea of the coyote power, but:

  1. Why a coyote of all things? It's rather 'niche', no? Don't think I've ever hear anyone say "wow, wish I could turn into a coyote!"
  2. You really should try to find another solution than just detoggling everything.
  3. To expensive for an item of such limited use.

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Carnival of Light: It was nice, even if I wished I could use the belt with the jacket and maybe the mask was usable on more head option. (Mask+aura+hat+reticle please!) I wish it was in the same category as the veil, since I never use those options on female characters.

Titan Weapons: Grabbed it last month, love it.

Coyote Travel Power: Are you frikken kidding me?

OK, first of all: It turns off my powers. Which means if I get hit in a high level area, I'm almost instantly dead. I guess there's gonna be a lot of dead dogs in the streets.

Second: The jumping looks definitely off. Not that big of a deal, but still...

Third: I can have one vanity pet up? Gee, I wonder which one goes with this? Is it my snowman from the winter pack? No? Is it my Vet Reward Rikti Monkey? No, although it would be hilarious if it rode on my back. I wonder which one it could be?

Fourth: Almost as expensive for a gimped up travel power than it is for the latest Archetype Powerset?

Someone kick this coyote in the face and get it out of here.

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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar View Post
This is my problem with these kinds of items too, as well as the Magic Carpet for 600, which is just the Rocket Board reskinned.

I don't mind paying a few bucks for a from-the-ground new power when the time is invested into making it, but I do mind when you sell the exact-same-power with a different model or animation, or especially just a different texture, at the same price-point as the original, and don't even offer any sort of discount for people who already bought the original.
I disagree with this. It is far more likely that in the planning phase for the design of the "new" or "original" power that part of the reason it was given the go ahead was for the very idea of being able to re-use it in different ways.

I imagine there were some quick estimates of cost/time to develop and then this was countered with "needs to be useable x times" so that they could sell the new tech for a profit and pay for the investment. In the case of rocket board, maybe "x" will equal 2, or 3, or 10 and we will see no more or 8 more versions of the tech offered at 600 points so that sales evententually pay for the investment of developer time. NC soft isn't stupid or lazy or they would be bankrupt now instead of being a major player in the MMO market.

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Why are these people so darn lazy that they can't even produce a video to show you. Are they that embarrassed about it that they just want you to buy it blind. I need to go to a players you tube page to view a video they where nice enough to show. I mean I just don't get it. These people just don't have a single clue how to promote this stuff.

I'm also with Winterminal regarding the comments related to old travel powers.

Whats the next travel power a wheel chair ? Weasel ? Alpacka ?

Words just cannot describe how lame this thing is.

Another game is pumping out a dozen different weapons in a week and it takes these guys months to produce a coyote travel power. The coach called and said to tighten up your chin strap. Come on wake up and get into the game.

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Call me back when the coyote is 1/4 the price it is now
Or when it is as fast as beastrun/ninja jump +swift +sprint.
Otherwise slower travel and detoggling and expecting to be charged same high price for similar skins = no sale.

No enough in the carnie pack to be worth my points. I like them, and dont care about the balance but I don't want to encourage smaller packs for same prices. We've lost enough value no longer having super packs with emotes/power/costumes.

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I think as some here do that time on these travel powers had made some good options. Which should be incorporated in to the powers we have all ready example beast, ninja run alternate for low level speed power and super speed. Flying carped, hover bored alternate for low level fly (hover) and fly its self. this leaves teleport a device thats a pack pack like that teleports you or a magical effect that opens a rift that you step though. And super jump which has the steam pack and the back pack from the bank missions which could fill that option as well not to mention all the flying back packs already in the game so come on already do the power pools all ready

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I think as some here do that time on these travel powers had made some good options. Which should be incorporated in to the powers we have all ready example beast, ninja run alternate for low level speed power and super speed. Flying carped, hover bored alternate for low level fly (hover) and fly its self. this leaves teleport a device thats a pack pack like that teleports you or a magical effect that opens a rift that you step though. And super jump which has the steam pack and the back pack from the bank missions which could fill that option as well not to mention all the flying back packs already in the game so come on already do the power pools all ready
It's kind of hard to understand what he(she?) is saying here, but I followed and agreed with at least this much:

I would pay a few hundred points each for a zero-endurance cost toggle that makes your character take up the Ninja Run and the Beast Run stances all the time (just without the travel benefits of the actual Ninja and Beast Run powers).

I've been running into endurance issues on a character that I've taken to using Beast Run for because I never, ever want to detoggle it--it works too well with the character's theme! I've also already got plans for a Staff character that will almost always use Ninja Run.

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Call me back when the coyote is 1/4 the price it is now
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Or when it is as fast as beastrun/ninja jump +swift +sprint.
Come back tanstaafl!

Coyote travels stats are pretty much identical to Beast/Ninja Run + Sprint + Swift (with 50 Run SOs). It is not slower. It has other deficits, but it is not slower.

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Please tell me the Coyote travel power works with the Howl emote. If not, that's just criminal.

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Come back tanstaafl!

Coyote travels stats are pretty much identical to Beast/Ninja Run + Sprint + Swift (with 50 Run SOs). It is not slower. It has other deficits, but it is not slower.
Thanks for correction. I'm not following threads much, and last I looked in beta I thought it was identical to beast run but with the suppressed toggles killing sprint/swift. Really glad that's not the case. Makes me think more about getting it instead of an instant look away.

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No enough in the carnie pack to be worth my points. I like them, and dont care about the balance but I don't want to encourage smaller packs for same prices. We've lost enough value no longer having super packs with emotes/power/costumes.
Agreed. That's a cheek to ask 400 points for that.

The demise of vet rewards and packs in favour of points and bundles wasn't a good change. Sole aim seems to have been fleece the customer. I don't mind paying - Paragon obviously needs to make a profit - but there's a fair profit and profiteering.




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Now, THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6j0R...eature=related

would be very cool, if it ever comes out. I'd be more likely to buy a wolf vanity pet and a wolf travel power, in any case. Would be AWESOME to have an MM with pets running through town as a pack of wolves .

 

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I wouldn't have picked a coyote personally, but I think it looks awesome. Right now I'm saving up for the staff powerset when it comes out, but I think I'll buy the coyote travel power when the beast mastermind set comes out, and maybe I'll even break down and buy the german shepard then.

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