Using Ion on Civilians in TPN (Yes, this happened)

I was just leading a TPN on Freedom. I explained, many many times, NO AoES, NO DMG AURAS, NO PETS.

We got to the stage where Maelstrom is outside, and someone decided that Ion judgement is a single target attack. If he'd have had tier 4, we'd have instant wiped. As it was, he took us from around 150 public opinion to 30 in one move.

I usually don't have many bad PuG stories, but this one was so special I though I should share. What do you think about using Ion on civilians? Was he farming them? He chose the right judgement then. Though maybe he could have gotten more if he had using Pryonic or Vorpal or Void, as the chain may have ended prematurely.

I propose that any player that kills 30 or more civilians should get a badge.

"Griefer" - You are the best at griefing. You griefed an entire incarnate trial into failure.

"Griefer" would give an accolade that stops the use of the team-up teleporter.

Either that, or make a very special badge called "Idiot", displayed in size 70 font, that cannot be unequipped. Though I guess badgers would still try and get it, so that may actually be a horrible idea.

Did you remove them from the league?

Heh 5 minutes ago someone was broadcasting in Freedom AP about some idiot who used Judgement on civvies

On my first TPN I did similar. I was on the outside team; my toon is Kin/Energy, so nice buff/debuff and I'm very single target focused. Initially Telepathists were susceptible to knockback; so I would Power Push them away from the cits, making it easier for the other league mates to take 'em down.

Four or five Telepathists in I hit Ion instead of Power Push. Yes, it was an accident. I announced it in league immediately. And apologized. Profusely.

Luckily everyone was new to the trial and forgiving. We were able to rebuild PR and had a successful completion. I was terribly careful the next few runs, but now the Telepathists are immune to KB so I don't bother with Power Push on that stage.

I dunno about the guy on your trial; it might have been a mistake, it might have been on purpose. I wasn't there. I certainly wouldn't appreciate some kind of special badge or title for a mistake like that.

Some people seem to close their chat windows when they get on a trial. Others just don't pay attention. It sucks but it happens.

This highlights the problem that I kind of have in general with the incarnate trials. I love the story and the epic feel of them but a single clueless player can just about instantly fail most of them. And these are with regular runs, not even the badge runs.

For example, In the Lambda trial, all it takes is a single person dancing in the cutscene then running backward once Marauder spawns and he'll exit the zone and instant-fail the trial.

In the Underground trial, all it takes is a single confused person fighting the Avatar using Rebirth or Barrier and the avatar gets buffed to the point of being unbeatable. Or using confused judgement can cause a league wipe that many leagues don't recover from.

In Minds of Mayhem, a single person using uncontrolled pets, aoe knockback, or aoe mez powers in phase 2 or phase 4 can cause trial failure.

And so on. Each trial has something like this and I find it incredibly frustrating. What I'd like to see is the trials not necessarily be easier to complete, but at least be more difficult to fail.

Now I feel an urge to use my T4 Ion Judgement on the civvies, just to see it.

I won't, ecause that would be a jerk move for the rest of the League, but if I ever find myself alone there thru a league disband mess up with the option, I'll take it lol.

I found myself alone in the BAF once when something went weird. Waited around for ten minutes but nobody came in. I spent a while trying to take out the Warworks in my own and then gave up lol.

Eco

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow [The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

Hey Matt, you seeing this? It's about you.

That story is funny. But we could have it worse.

There's a game that had a raid where EVERYONE on the raid (24 players) had to ensure that their power stat (endurance here) stayed EXACTLY between 60% or 20% or it was insta-wipe.

While that game is orders of degrees harder than CoH, even the devs there had to fix that.

And here I thought the Fire/kin literally almost aggroing the entire map of the third mission in an ITF was bad...

Well there are some surprising ways this trial can get you, too. For example, Cognitive Interface. Even attacking something single target with that slotted can mess you up because the confused enemy can attack a civilian or a camera.

Good for him for demonstrating what a poorly designed Trial the TPN really is.

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Thelonious Monk

Actually, what I REALLY want is the power for team/league leaders to use captions, like the developers. Big font, right in front of every player. Not in some obscure chat section, but big and visible on the screen. If nothing else, it would help a little to make sure people at least had a chance to read the instructions we give.