"I'm soloing" ... "ur selfish"


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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
Here's a wacky idea, if someone sends a tell asking to join up with you, why not invite them?
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Originally Posted by Aneko View Post
Because I want to be soloing, obviously.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
Because I feel like soloing at the moment, and it's my choice whether I team or not.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Because I'm soloing.
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Here's a wacky idea. If you pester some stranger to join them and they tell you they're soloing, why not just leave them alone and find someone else to play with?
*hehe*
At least now i have a little more insight into the mindset of those people who repeatedly insist you should invite them to a team because they can't comprehend the idea of wanting to solo and how just one or two people like that can bother so many others.

Seriously, i wonder how many of the posts in this thread were the results of PR's insistence that soloing is wrongbadthink being put into practice in game despite all the perfectly valid reasons given for wanting to solo. (IMO "Because I want to solo" is just as valid as "because I'm AFK with RL stuff most of the time"; you have no obligation to team with anyone in particular, ever.)


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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan View Post
I wS soloing yesterday doing some arcs and I got a tell reading "can i join ur team pls?"

I responded "sorry, I'm soloing right now".
The reply "ur selfish. Let me join u" came back.
I Didn't bother replying to that.

Soloing is selfish now?

Lol

Eco
If it wasn't from someone I knew, I would not have responded at all.

I blame all of the old school team beggars who were always 4-5 levels down trying to get on a team and refuse to sidekick. After awhile I just ignore blind tells requesting to join my "solo" team. So, fast forward to today, I still have the habit of just ignoring such requests. I check my global friend list and if I don't see their name I just carry on as before.


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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
Seriously, i wonder how many of the posts in this thread were the results of PR's insistence that soloing is wrongbadthink being put into practice in game despite all the perfectly valid reasons given for wanting to solo. (IMO "Because I want to solo" is just as valid as "because I'm AFK with RL stuff most of the time"; you have no obligation to team with anyone in particular, ever.)
The fact of the matter is that those of us who prefer to solo most of the time don't really make much of a stink about it until someone ups and tells us to go back to playing console games, or some equivalent put-down. City of Heroes is already very accommodating to solo play and "anti-social" trolls really don't help anyone. iTrials WERE a point of contention on the matter, but that's mostly for lack of alternative more than anything else.

The thing to remember with people who play by themselves is they won't go out of their way to bother you exactly BECAUSE they're by themselves and not on your team.


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Here's a wacky idea, if someone sends a tell asking to join up with you, why not invite them? You were soloing and now you're teamed. Do you really care about their grammar skills or presumption? Do you feel that a random lowbie is an unconscionable burden upon your shoulders? If you're just taking it easy and soloing while you do something else you could say "I'm taking it easy and soloing while I do something else. Still want to join?" They might.

I almost always invite anyone who asks because if nothing else it's nice to have an audience for my badass spawn shredding.
Yeah, ok, I'll do this if you promise that next time you're in your flat watching TV alone and some random stranger calls at your door and says 'Hey, hi, can i come watch TV with you?" you'll go "Well, sure, come in! But I might change the channel without warning or pause the dvd to go make dinner or speak to my mom on the phone, so you'll have to bear with me if that happens. But yeah, there's my sofa, make yourself at home!"



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Originally Posted by Turgenev View Post
Pffft.

"Do you love me?"
"whut"
"You wish to join my team. Do you love me?"
"uhhh sure lol"
"I love you too."
*send invite*
*joins team*
*enters mission*
*kick teammate*
"I have commitment issues."

EDIT: In the spirit of full disclosure, I have zero issues with random teaming, so long as the person is asking for help with their run. But Cap's jerkish response demanded something sublime and elegant in response.
EDITed because i realised you meant theu other guy's response was jerkish, not mine.

I hope

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[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."

 

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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan View Post
I must be insanely unaware, because I can't see anything particularly wrong or rude or jerkish at all with that reply.
It wasn't jerkish at all. I have no idea what that other guy is smoking.

Besides, it's the ones insisting us solo players (who aren't bothering anyone at all and just minding our own business) that we have to let them join us or else who are the selfish ones! They're just using their own propaganda spin to try and guilt us into letting them in; it's another one of their underhanded tactics.


 

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I had a similar situation last week. I was on a team, but wasn't leading it, and I had somebody ask if they could join my team. Well, he had a longish name, and we were in the thick of things, so I told him that, "I'm not in charge, you should ask the leader." Apparently he didn't know about the "/ttl" command, so during brief lull in the fighting a couple minutes later I explained it to him. He still couldn't be bothered to figure it out and wanted me to do all of the footwork for him. Needless to say, I ignored him from that point.

I need to macro that explains the use of the "/ttl" command. While this individual wasn't the first person to not be familiar with the command, he was by far the most irritating person to date.


 

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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan View Post
EDITed because i realised you meant theu other guy's response was jerkish, not mine.

I hope

Eco
HAH! Yeah, I meant the guy who /tell'd you back about being selfish, not you. My bad, I'll fix the original in a sec for clarity.


 

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Damn, too many quotes for multiquote to handle. Good work, everyone.

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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Because I feel like soloing at the moment, and it's my choice whether I team or not.
A perfectly reasonable answer.
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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim
Because I'm soloing.
The sort of answer that leads me to believe some of you may be displaying signs of Grumpy Gus disorder. You're getting mad about the idea not of someone impinging on your soloing, but about the idea that they might want to. And you're not the only one.
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Originally Posted by MisterMagpie
Naw, it'd be mean for me to invite someone. I spend a lot of time reading and doing stuff while I play, so there's periods where my character is just standing there for like ten minutes at a time. If I want to keep up with other people, I just send a tell to people forming teams in channels/broadcast.
Yeah, absolutely. I completely understand how easy it is to play CoH while distracted or otherwise unsuited for normal team play. By all means solo away in this situation and refuse anyone's sultry advances. That doesn't explain the posters who have been talking about how they use /hide so they never have to worry about anyone defiling their perfect little world.
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven View Post
Here's a wacky idea. If you pester some stranger to join them and they tell you they're soloing, why not just leave them alone and find someone else to play with?
I never said you should give in to pestering, clearly pestering is a bad policy in general. I take issue with this notion of the sanctity of solitude in a video game.
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That's... a pretty big assumption you're making there, PR. How do you know we'd have any fun with the random person around?

... I'm all for being inclusive on principle, but not all characters are equally suited for random teaming and I don't think it's a bad thing to recognize that and respond to invites and teaming requests with it in mind.
That's all I'm saying. Not once did I say everyone must always accept every request to team. I was simply disturbed by the vehemence of the anti-teaming sentiment in this thread. And wouldn't you know it, it got worse before it's gotten better.
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He's gonna force you to hug him whether you want to or not. It's for your own good, you know!!!
Yes. Brilliant parody that concisely sums up everything I said. Outstanding work.
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix View Post
Seriously, i wonder how many of the posts in this thread were the results of PR's insistence that soloing is wrongbadthink being put into practice in game despite all the perfectly valid reasons given for wanting to solo. (IMO "Because I want to solo" is just as valid as "because I'm AFK with RL stuff most of the time"; you have no obligation to team with anyone in particular, ever.)
Have you ever spoken with someone who seemed to get super defensive all of a sudden and it just made you raise an eyebrow internally?
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Yeah, ok, I'll do this if you promise that next time you're in your flat watching TV alone and some random stranger calls at your door and says 'Hey, hi, can i come watch TV with you?" you'll go "Well, sure, come in! But I might change the channel without warning or pause the dvd to go make dinner or speak to my mom on the phone, so you'll have to bear with me if that happens. But yeah, there's my sofa, make yourself at home!"



Eco
Another excellent example. The mission is your home, and the person asking to join you is a a burly man wearing only a trench coat. Terrifying stuff.

Did you guys know there's a button you can press to remove someone from a team you're leading if you take exception to their behavior?


 

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You're getting mad about the idea not of someone impinging on your soloing, but about the idea that they might want to. And you're not the only one.
No, they're getting annoyed that you're calling them anti-social and vindictive for simply saying no.


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I'd find that much easier to believe had the topic not been "best ways to avoid as many people as possible" before I ruined everything with my uncouth demands that everyone always team with everyone.


 

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Originally Posted by Bosstone View Post
No, they're getting annoyed that you're calling them anti-social and vindictive for simply saying no.
Pretty much this, yes. I've had people ask me to join their teams and people ask me to join my teams and I've never had a problem answering that "I'd like to stick to myself for now, sorry." or "I don't want to team a the moment, I'm afraid." or "No, not right now." and be done with it. If a person answers "OK, have fun." Or "Your loss." or even don't answer at all, that's fine. They didn't bother me, I see no reason to bother them. It's when people try to tell me I'm anti-social that I get irritated and grumpy.


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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I'd find that much easier to believe had the topic not been "best ways to avoid as many people as possible" before I ruined everything with my uncouth demands that everyone always team with everyone.
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This particular beehive seems to have major issues understanding the difference between "I think some of you people should try teaming now and again because it looks like you never have before" and "I think none of you should ever be allowed to solo again."


 

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The sort of answer that leads me to believe some of you may be displaying signs of antisocial personality disorder. You're getting mad about the idea not of someone impinging on your soloing, but about the idea that they might want to. And you're not the only one.
So when the guilt-tripping doesn't work, you question the sanity of the solo players. Interesting move. Surely, we must be crazy to not want to play with you. That simply must be the case!

I say though, what is this constant need you have to want to force strangers into playing with you all the time? Some sort of hypersocial disorder perhaps? Attempting backwards connections on people you don't even know? Very interesting, indeed.


 

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This particular beehive seems to have major issues understanding the difference between "I think some of you people should try teaming now and again because it looks like you never have before" and "I think none of you should ever be allowed to solo again."
Neither of which is actually a reasonable position.


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Your attempts at sarcasm and twisting others' words are failing to amuse.


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The sort of answer that leads me to believe some of you may be displaying signs of antisocial personality disorder. You're getting mad about the idea not of someone impinging on your soloing, but about the idea that they might want to. And you're not the only one.
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What?

Seriously, what? Where did you get the idea I was getting mad? Where? Quote me and point out where I'm getting mad.

And what right do you think you have to tell me I may have a disorder? If you want to make people mad, telling them there's something wrong with them is a sure-fire way to do it.

I highly suggest you reevaluate your outlook on life and others, son, because right now you're not only making yourself out to be completely ignorant, you're also throwing words and terms and accusations around that might really upset someone. What if I did have an antisocial personality disorder? What if my coping mechanism was to play an online game? What if the only way I could socialize was through a medium that didn't actually require me to socialize with visible, present human beings?

Do you have any idea how huge a dick move your little retort would be if I really did have the aforementioned condition?

Up until my early teens I had an attention disorder. I had to be medicated for most of my developmental years. If you told me, to my face, that I didn't do something a certain way in-game because I had ADD I'd probably cuff you one. Not cool, PR. Not cool at all.

You should be ashamed of yourself, and I'm not saying that out of anger. If this is how you address things in your day-to-day life I pity you.

You have yourself a wonderful New Year.


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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle View Post
This particular beehive seems to have major issues understanding the difference between "I think some of you people should try teaming now and again because it looks like you never have before" and "I think none of you should ever be allowed to solo again."
I team up quite often. I'm always joining TF and Trial PUGs. But I also play solo quite often.

What I don't like is other people telling me what to do. Especially when it's none of their danged business. As my sister always like to say: "You want to live my life? Then pay my rent!"


 

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What?

Seriously, what? Where did you get the idea I was getting mad? Where? Quote me and point out where I'm getting mad.
I think right about here.


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Neither of which is actually a reasonable position.
Surely it's more reasonable to try new things on occasion than it is to simply dig yourself into a bunker and assume the war's still going on years later? What exactly are you putting on the line by inviting some random guy to join you? As I said, I do it all the time and as far as I know it has never caused me any harm, material or otherwise. Compare that to putting yourself on /hide so nobody will ever be able to send you an invite or tell. How is that going to improve your experience in the game? Again, we're all free to do whatever weirdo things we want, obviously, but barricading your door and cutting your phone line so that nobody can break into your house and change your TV stations... uhhhh, sure. That's a reasonable position, then?


 

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Surely it's more reasonable to try new things on occasion than it is to simply dig yourself into a bunker and assume the war's still going on years later? What exactly are you putting on the line by inviting some random guy to join you? As I said, I do it all the time and as far as I know it has never caused me any harm, material or otherwise. Compare that to putting yourself on /hide so nobody will ever be able to send you an invite or tell. How is that going to improve your experience in the game? Again, we're all free to do whatever weirdo things we want, obviously, but barricading your door and cutting your phone line so that nobody can break into your house and change your TV stations... uhhhh, sure. That's a reasonable position, then?
Why are you assuming the people who've responded to this thread only solo and hate teaming? You're more biased than they are.


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That's the thing, Boss: I'm still not mad. Surprised, amazed, blown away-- but not mad. I'm just genuinely caught off guard that someone would say something that ignorant about something so trivial and mean it.
But... surely, using such a large font size with italics is a clear indication of your anger!

EDIT: And you're right. Whats-his-name has managed to completely marginalize an actual, real problem some people actually have. For what, to bug people to play with him more?