"I'm soloing" ... "ur selfish"
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Posted on: 2011-12-28 01:30 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Sure Schismatrix, and your repetition of the claim that I want everyone to be forced to team at all times makes even more sense given that I said at least three times that that specifically was not what I meant. I understand you're still trying to pick a fight, but I'm done with that, sorry.
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I hate to fan the flames here, but the proof's in your posts whether you say it is or not.
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
Sure Schismatrix, and your repetition of the claim that I want everyone to be forced to team at all times makes even more sense given that I said at least three times that that specifically was not what I meant. I understand you're still trying to pick a fight, but I'm done with that, sorry.
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"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."
Yes, the proof is in my posts, which is why it's frustrating that some people persistently fail to understand. I obviously did a poor job of explaining it. Anyway, I'd say the thread has become significantly more interesting since we ceased hostilities, wouldn't you? Let's keep it that way.
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I wouldn't be so hard on the retail slaves, myself. They're required to upsale like that to everyone. Those companies hire secret shoppers to pose as actual customers in order to spy on their performance, and if they don't do things like that, they'll get written up. The whole store gets blamed for it and the poor wage slave gets chewed out by their boss just because he or she forgot to say "would you like fries with that?"|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
I do get really wound up when the servers at fast food joints ask me "wpuld you like to go large/a drink/fries/a desert with that?", though. I want to respond with "Are you insinuating that I'm a cretin? Because surely only a moron would come into your esrablishment wanting fries/a drink/a desert/to go large and then FORGET TO ACTUALLY ASK FOR IT?"
But I don't. No point. Sometimes I say something like "I'd like a Bigmac, and only a Bigmac, and I don't want you to offer me anything else at all, ok?" though. |
You wanna get mad at anyone, get mad at the guys in the monkey suits who probably live nowhere near you and work at the corporate HQ. They have a marketing department who swears that their research says that upselling to customers increases sales and revenue, and so they command all their little trained minions to say dumb things like that all the time.
EDIT: Or better yet, take your business to an independantly operated local burger place. And I'm not talking about a privately owned franchise, either! You're likely to get a better burger at that local place run by some crotchety old guy who gets annoyed with you if you take too long to make an order, and where the workers have a bit more freedom and don't have to follow a silly set of rules. And the portions will likely be a lot bigger. -- Unless the owner is a tightwad, in which case, go to the other indy burger place!
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He's so good at doing that, I say he should run for congress. He'd do incredibly well!
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Originally Posted by Schismatrix
You seem to keep avoiding or ignoring that rather central theme of the thread in your replies and picking away at anything peripheral to it that allows you to ignore the main theme.
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If I don't respond to a broadcast, I'm not being rude. If I don't respond to a tell, I'm being rude. It creates an obligation to respond in some way, even if it's just to say "no thanks".
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Originally Posted by TrueMetal
As I said, I really don't see how.
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I don't feel like I've been slighted when people don't respond to my tells about teams. I have no idea what they're doing, they could easily be AFK or in a fight or something. Maybe they just don't want to reply, which is also their prerogative. The only thing it means is that I need to slow down recruitment slightly to give them a minute to possibly reply if they are interested in teaming, but it's vanishingly rare that anyone gets exercised about how long recruitment takes prior to running an hour long task force. At least, that's been my experience on several servers.
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No, many team members in comics do their own thing, solo or with a regular partner, until there's a threat that can't be handled that way.|
Originally Posted by 80sBaby
Except for the JLA, JSA, Titans, Avengers, etc, right?
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In the game, even the most trivial missions produce more (and sometimes stronger) enemies to match the number of heroes involved. In the comics, it would be pretty strange for Captain America to say "The jewelry store is being robbed. Avengers, assemble!"
'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
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YOU may not get offended, but the general social rule is that a personal request requires a response. So even if you don't mean it that way, other people do mean it that way, and other people will reasonably take it that way.
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Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
I don't feel like I've been slighted when people don't respond to my tells about teams. I have no idea what they're doing, they could easily be AFK or in a fight or something. Maybe they just don't want to reply, which is also their prerogative. The only thing it means is that I need to slow down recruitment slightly to give them a minute to possibly reply if they are interested in teaming, but it's vanishingly rare that anyone gets exercised about how long recruitment takes prior to running an hour long task force. At least, that's been my experience on several servers.
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"can I join your team?"
-sorry, just want to solo right now
"ur selfish"
-dawwwww, ur adorable! ;D
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Oh, please, no. We have enough knuckleheads like that in D.C. already.
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Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
He's so good at doing that, I say he should run for congress. He'd do incredibly well!
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"Ive been in comedy now for 30 years. The only difference is, its not stand-up; we all have comfortable chairs.|
Originally Posted by Scythus
Oh, please, no. We have enough knuckleheads like that in D.C. already.
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Righty right.|
Originally Posted by PleaseRecycle
Yes, the proof is in my posts, which is why it's frustrating that some people persistently fail to understand. I obviously did a poor job of explaining it. Anyway, I'd say the thread has become significantly more interesting since we ceased hostilities, wouldn't you? Let's keep it that way.
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Moving on then... as far as people waiting patiently for a TF to form it really does vary depending on the TF and the players involved. My general rule is that if we have the minimum number required and no one else has shown interest after five minutes of waiting for replies i'll start the TF as long as everyone else is okay with it.
The only people that really annoy me on the ones who insist on waiting until they have a full team before entering regular missions. In that case i usually give them five minutes to get it together before i leave to go solo some missions instead unless i'm having an interesting conversation or doing something else to prevent boredom.
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So, you've never seen heroes team-up against lesser villains? Is that what you're saying?|
Originally Posted by Aneko
No, many team members in comics do their own thing, solo or with a regular partner, until there's a threat that can't be handled that way.
In the game, even the most trivial missions produce more (and sometimes stronger) enemies to match the number of heroes involved. In the comics, it would be pretty strange for Captain America to say "The jewelry store is being robbed. Avengers, assemble!" |
Because Spidey does it all the time. In fact, his newest series is nothing but a Team-up book and they're not facing World Beaters each issue. Cap calls in Falcon and Ironman to fight Hydra goons. the Avengers have banded together to fight ninjas (and Hand ninjas, at that!) Then there's the Brave & the Bold. Or when Capt. Marvel guest stars in a Superman book. GL and Flash work together to defeat a talking gorilla (yeah, that sounds like a real threat.) And plenty more.
The game stacks baddies so the teaming doesn't feel like overkill (much like writers stacking the deck against the hero to give him/her a reason for the team-up, despite the hero having handled bigger threats by themselves before.)
Team-ups are a comic staple. To suggest that a team-up is somehow "less heroic" is nonsense.
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Which Gorilla? Because if it was Grodd, that's a talking PSYCHIC gorilla, which totally merits teaming.
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Originally Posted by 80sBaby
GL and Flash work together to defeat a talking gorilla (yeah, that sounds like a real threat.) And plenty more.
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What I said is what I said. Why must people try to second-guess?|
Originally Posted by 80sBaby
So, you've never seen heroes team-up against lesser villains? Is that what you're saying?
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In the game, you enter a warehouse alone. You see groups of two or three enemies. You decide to call for back-up. You and a friend enter, and now the enemy groups are larger. Call everyone in, and you're still challenged.
In the comics, the result would be your full team beating down two or three enemies at a time, and those enemies are at a level to challenge only one of you. Is that a common occurrence in today's superhero comic books?
'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
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Yes, it was Grodd (Monsieur Mallah isn't worth mentioning.)|
Originally Posted by Mad_Scientist_JC
Which Gorilla? Because if it was Grodd, that's a talking PSYCHIC gorilla, which totally merits teaming.
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And Flash has defeated him solo (quite a few times) so, if the point is that heroes ONLY team against people they can't beat alone, this has been proven false.
Comics have heroes team whenever they feel like it and solo whenever they feel like it. Just like this game.
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Originally Posted by Aneko
What I said is what I said. Why must people try to second-guess?
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In the game, you enter a warehouse alone. You see groups of two or three enemies. You decide to call for back-up. You and a friend enter, and now the enemy groups are larger. Call everyone in, and you're still challenged. In the comics, the result would be your full team beating down two or three enemies at a time, and those enemies are at a level to challenge only one of you. Is that a common occurrence in today's superhero comic books? |
And your analogy is flawed due to the natures of the medium. You can't add to a comic the way you can add to this game. Comics aren't interactive.
A better analogy would be to say the writer has an idea about a character and, after thinking about it, realizes the villain would be too powerful for said hero solo so he re-writes the story and includes another hero to help even the odds and make the story make more sense. Or a villain is too under-powered for our heroes so some device/power-up is given to ecplain why Hero Z needs help from Hero Y against someone he normally solos.
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That's my point. You're the one who brought up comic book supergroups, and I'm saying that the comparison doesn't work.
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Originally Posted by 80sBaby
And your analogy is flawed due to the natures of the medium. You can't add to a comic the way you can add to this game. Comics aren't interactive.
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'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
'A cat may look at a king,' said Alice.
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Originally Posted by zachary_EU
Ur was ancient Mesopotamian city... that city was selfis?
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"Dark Armor is a complete waste as a tanking set."
So far your posts have mostly been in support of the "But I don't care if you don't want to team right now, you're obligated to do it anyway because it's what I want!" camp to the extent you don't avoid addressing the primary topic. That may not be your intent, but it's certainly the result.
Edit: Now that i think about it, you're pretty much the only person in the entire thread who is even trying to defend that sort of behavior. Also, Twixt isn't stupid as such, just a jackhole with little to no regard for other people, academic integrity or the scientific method.
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