LotG Market: Who bought the set and who bought the proc?
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Posted on: 2011-11-26 15:33 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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This is such a stupid thing to say. Best case scenario, it takes me a half hour to get a LotG. Come to me on any given day and make the the offer - "You can pay $1.50 to buy a half hour of extra time to do things you want instead of working", and I'll jump at it every time.|
Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
*shakes head at all the players with more money than sense*
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Last year, the company I work for was having a temporary cashflow problem. To remedy it, they offered unpaid vacation time to people to save money. There was a line of people begging for the opportunity. And trust me, that rate of exchange was not nearly as generous as $3/hour. Some of those people were paying 10X that much for more free time.
I bought like 5 of the proc and three of the regular IO as I usually 4 slot the set to get the acc bonus. Im looking at the Kin Combats for another toon I just started.
If the Numina Proc was available I would have brought those as well.
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So what about the game is it that you enjoy? I know there are people that use it as a graphical chat room, but I doubt they're buying enhancements.|
Originally Posted by Myrmydon
The point of playing the game (for me) is to enjoy myself, not treat it as a second job. This particular selection of SBEs will definitely let me do that more than before.
I also now have the advantage of never having to bother with whether or not I will have enough Paragon Reward points to get the T9 VIP rewards that come out, plus I can make liberal use of the Repeat consumables offered at that tier. Not to mention the fact that the game received a healthy influx of income, thereby, having the ability to keep the servers up and making more content to enjoy. Everyone definitely wins in the end.  |
It's kind of like me saying "I love doing mazes!" Then just drawing a straight line from the start of the maze to the end, cutting across the walls of the maze itself, then shouting "Yes! Finally done with that! Now I can do something I like!"
I really don't get it. Why even bother at all?
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There's plenty more to the game than playing marketeer and maximizing the rewards from your play time. For example, you can fight supervillains, or even BE a supervillain. ;P|
Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
So what about the game is it that you enjoy?
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Edit: And I say this as someone who enjoys marketeering and maximizing rewards.
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Your join date is July 2004. What about the game was it that you enjoyed between then and May 2007, when inventions and the auction house were introduced to COH?
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Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
So what about the game is it that you enjoy?
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Getting characters to 50 and slotting them out. Getting accolades, etc. Enhancements are just another part of the progression, to me. I wouldn't pay to get a character to 50 any more than I'd pay for an enhancement.|
Originally Posted by Chyron HR
Your join date is July 2004. What about the game was it that you enjoyed between then and May 2007, when inventions and the auction house were introduced to COH?
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Would you pay directly for levels? Just out of curiosity.
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That's the spirit! Drive them market prices down!|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
I bought.. quite a few of the 7.5% +Recharge proc... 30 I think... Almost all of my characters use at least 3 of them, and they're annoyingly expensive in time invested in-game for what amounts to like $1.40.
I got a couple of the Kin Combat Tris as well. |
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Hey lookie, I sold another. *Pockets the 100M inf... or rather, 94,750,000 after taxes*
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The question wasn't directed at me but figured id chime in , I wouldn't buy a 50 but I wouldn't really care if someone else did .
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Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
Getting characters to 50 and slotting them out. Getting accolades, etc. Enhancements are just another part of the progression, to me. I wouldn't pay to get a character to 50 any more than I'd pay for an enhancement.
Would you pay directly for levels? Just out of curiosity. |
I didn't buy any of them. I still have a handfull of the uniques in storage and plenty of spare inf to get more if I need them.
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Heh, my reasoning is completely opposite. I find them so easily obtainable in game (and I don't even farm or play the market for inf) that I really can't justify spending even trivial amounts of my hard earned money on them.
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Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
I bought.. quite a few of the 7.5% +Recharge proc... 30 I think... Almost all of my characters use at least 3 of them, and they're annoyingly expensive in time invested in-game for what amounts to like $1.40.
I got a couple of the Kin Combat Tris as well. |
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Don't mistake my reasoning. I said nothing about ease or difficulty - it's about quality of life.|
Originally Posted by TrueMetal
Heh, my reasoning is completely opposite. I find them so easily obtainable in game (and I don't even farm or play the market for inf) that I really can't justify spending even trivial amounts of my hard earned money on them.
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It's very, very easy to get LotGs if that's what you choose to spend your play time doing. I, personally, would rather never grind another Alignment Merit ever if I can help it, and I swear to God if I ever see The One Good Bane Spider ever again I'm going to snap, go Villain, and break his neck.
I like playing the game when I sit down to play it, not working another job mindlessly grinding my eyes out for one more merit.
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I24 Proc Chance = (Enhanced Recharge + Activation Time) * (Current PPM * 1.25) / 60*(1 + .75*(.15*Radius - 0.011*Radius*(360-Arc)/30)) Single Target Radius = 0. AoE Non-Cone Arc = 360.
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Yep.|
Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
Getting characters to 50 and slotting them out. Getting accolades, etc. Enhancements are just another part of the progression, to me. I wouldn't pay to get a character to 50 any more than I'd pay for an enhancement.
Would you pay directly for levels? Just out of curiosity. |
If I can avoid PLing another alt, running it through Mayhems, killing Ghost of Scrapyard, farming 1,000,000 damage...over and over and over and over and over and over for EVERY new alt I make, THEN having to get purples and PvP IOs...then I will avoid it.
Just finished my Ice/Time Controller, all the villside HP accos, all purpled out and such and now I need to start work on another alt. Not looking forward to it.
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
*shakes head at all the players with more money than sense*
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Now, I wouldn't pay real money for LOTGs or Miracles, but if they put purples and PvP IOs on sale...it's going to be really, really, really tempting.
The sooner I can do away with wasting time flipping and selling and crafting items on the virtual market, the quicker I can get my alts to 50 and slot them out, moving to the next alt until I have a full range of characters for any occasion.
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It really just comes down to what you want to do with a character.
For some people, the peak build IS the endgame, in which case buying the IOs obviously makes no sense and literally is paying to win.
For others, obtaining IOs is a roadblock to doing what it is they want to do, like run trials or TFs or solo 4/x8 tip missions or whatever. In that case, buying IOs just cuts down the amount of stuff you HAVE to do, ie work, and gives you more time to do the stuff you WANT to do, ie play.
I know I dislike the teen levels a lot. I consider pre-SO play to be drudgery that can occasionally be fun but is just a prelude to the real game. Thus, I'm perfectly happy to buy up XP Boosters and make use of the Experienced vet temp powers in order to speed my way through the low levels. There's your "buying levels," it's just a little more indirect than outright purchasing levels and is more palatable.
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Slotting them out with what? SOs? Because the way I remember it, "go to fake store, spend fake money" was not particularly gripping gameplay. Then again, "put bids on auction house, come back and get IOs" doesn't really make me sweat on the keyboard either.|
Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
Getting characters to 50 and slotting them out.
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At first, I didn't intend to buy any of these Sets, but after some deliberation, I bought 10 full sets of the LoTGs.
My second defense based meleer is high-40s now and it took half a year of Auction House groundwork before I created the character to acquire the mid-level LoTG pieces that I want to use for its armors at non-buy-it-nao! bids. Even so, I didn't get all of the ones I wanted and still had to use Merits to get a couple of them. In addition, my last 3-4 non-melee characters have also dabbled in defense based epic armors along with Weave and Maneuvers, which have been working out better than I expected.
So, I came to the conclusion that my personal trend is for an increasing need for mid-level LoTGs that will also become increasingly difficult to get at affordable prices in reasonable time frames. The SBE LoTG allowing the set bonuses to follow exemplaring down to 22 nudged me over the fence. The next time a Free Respec is given, I'll swap them into my defense armored meleers and put their regular LoTGs back into spares storage for other characters to use. I also bought one extra enhancement inventory tray in preparation for these respecs.
In regards to the LoTG set, I only use the 4 pieces that enhances defense. I don't think any of my characters are using the +7.5% recharge piece, so it was not a real consideration for me. And the EndRed/Rechg piece is a complete waste. I thought of just buying the 4 defense ones separately, but they would have cost more than the whole set at the current discounted price.
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I never grind for A-merits or anything else for that matter. I can always do another few days or weeks without that LotG, or T3 Judgement, or whatever. If I don't feel like doing things I simply don't do it. I got all the stuff to equip my 50's through just playing the game doing arcs and tf's when and if I feel like doing them. I turn my R-merits into random rolls, craft the results along side my regular drops, store the expensive stuff I might need and sell the rest.|
Originally Posted by Draeth Darkstar
Don't mistake my reasoning. I said nothing about ease or difficulty - it's about quality of life.
It's very, very easy to get LotGs if that's what you choose to spend your play time doing. I, personally, would rather never grind another Alignment Merit ever if I can help it, and I swear to God if I ever see The One Good Bane Spider ever again I'm going to snap, go Villain, and break his neck. I like playing the game when I sit down to play it, not working another job mindlessly grinding my eyes out for one more merit. |
Of course it helps that I don't care about uber tricked out builds, so I don't bother with purples or pvp IO's. The LotG and Miracle uniques are usually the most expensive things in my builds.
@True Metal
Co-leader of Callous Crew SG. Based on Union server.
I brought a few, and a few cnsumables - wanted to show that 50 points is a good price.
I was annoyed at the pricing of kinetic combats - cheaper buying them one at a time than a whole set at once was wtf!
And those who brought drekloads? Thanks. Doesnt bother me the slightest and good to see money flowing to paragon that doesnt come from my wallet 
I don't suffer from altitis, I enjoy every minute of it.
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this loses meaning when we use it for such trivial scenarios...
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
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If I had the cash, I probably would have bought 10 or so of the proc, but probably not more than 1 or 2 of the whole set.
I don't have the money to spare right now, though, so I bought nothing.
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Once you get your characters to that point, what's the occasion?|
Originally Posted by Neuronia
Yep.
If I can avoid PLing another alt, running it through Mayhems, killing Ghost of Scrapyard, farming 1,000,000 damage...over and over and over and over and over and over for EVERY new alt I make, THEN having to get purples and PvP IOs...then I will avoid it. Just finished my Ice/Time Controller, all the villside HP accos, all purpled out and such and now I need to start work on another alt. Not looking forward to it. I could probably invest in a farm, learn to milk cows, call an uncle for advice on how to "prepare" them and so on, or I could go to the local Métro and pay 3.99 for a pound or two of pork. Now, I wouldn't pay real money for LOTGs or Miracles, but if they put purples and PvP IOs on sale...it's going to be really, really, really tempting. The sooner I can do away with wasting time flipping and selling and crafting items on the virtual market, the quicker I can get my alts to 50 and slot them out, moving to the next alt until I have a full range of characters for any occasion. |
That's what I'm curious about...what do you do with the character once it's to that point? PvP is the only thing I can think of, but you'd be the first person I've seen since the PvP changes that approaches that aspect of the game with much enthusiasm at all.
I bought two sets of LOTGs. That's how many I had points for. Play money for play things works for me, I won't spend real money on it as money is tight. If it wasn't I'd probably buy some points to get another set and a few sets of the kinetic combats. I just don't have the money now.
It's all in what you enjoy and what you're willing to pay/invest in. For some the time/$ trade off is worth it. More power to them, it's all good.
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Well, if you could plop down the cash and get all that at level 1, then you've still got the opportunity to play the game. And better, because you can play the game without a bunch of annoying parts.
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Originally Posted by Judas_Ace
Once you get your characters to that point, what's the occasion?
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Originally Posted by SerialBeggar
In regards to the LoTG set, I only use the 4 pieces that enhances defense. I don't think any of my characters are using the +7.5% recharge piece, so it was not a real consideration for me. And the EndRed/Rechg piece is a complete waste. I thought of just buying the 4 defense ones separately, but they would have cost more than the whole set at the current discounted price.
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1. The +7.5 recharge gives the same bonus to defense as the def/recharge. If put into a toggle power, there is no reason other than price to not use the +7.5
2. At the current price, you can buy any 4 of the set and still come out cheaper than buying the whole set, so I'm not sure what you mean when you say it would have cost more.
I got a couple of Basilisk's Gaze sets, 3 LotG sets, and 5 LotG recharges. Not too much compared to some of you folks, but enough to help me make some improvements on a few characters. I don't often have time to grind alignment merits, so this sale is pretty welcome.
I haven't bought any enhancements off the store and I don't plan on starting any time soon, I don't care how cheap they are. I'll save my points for things I can't get directly in game - more costume bits and power sets, please. 
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I also now have the advantage of never having to bother with whether or not I will have enough Paragon Reward points to get the T9 VIP rewards that come out, plus I can make liberal use of the Repeat consumables offered at that tier. Not to mention the fact that the game received a healthy influx of income, thereby, having the ability to keep the servers up and making more content to enjoy. Everyone definitely wins in the end.
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