Player Summit Ustream Highlights: Marketing Panel


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They look over sales data twice a day, as well as reading the forums with regards to what is selling, what isn't, what is liked and isn't.

Their goal is to put higher end costume pieces on the market. They are going to continue giving pieces for free to VIPs.



http://yfrog.com/j2fmfdpj

Ooo, concept art for Titan Weapons that will be for sale, on December 6th.


They will continue to release a new power set with each issue. For 21 it was Time Manipulation, next is Darkness control.

Staff Fighting comes out next year.


Black Friday/Cyber Monday will be having some big sales.


They're experimenting with packages, sales, and bundles. They will consider permantly discounting items if they sell greatly at the lower price.


They have the weekly items well into 2012.

Next week they're going to have a Thanksgiving-themed costume piece.

Enhancement converters.

Super packs.



Enhancement converter UI. Convert an enhancement into another one.

In-set will change one IO into another one of the same set.
In-category to change one IO to one of a similar type. Melee to Melee.
There will be another one that is random based on rarity. Purple to purple, orange to orange.


Super packs have 5 items of variable rarity. It will contain buckets of reward merits, Elemental Order costume parts, and ATIO's.

Video showing the basic UI for this.

You are guaranteed at least a Rare card if not a Very Rare.

They mention an Enhancement Catalyst, which they will get to later.

You can track the pieces through the Collect screen. The elemental pieces exist at every level. Once you get an account bound item it will not appear again and waste a card. YAAAAY!

http://yfrog.com/h0i62xgj

http://yfrog.com/nxai1ztj

They show some of the elemental costumes, but I can't see crap.

http://yfrog.com/klhdvpzj

ATIO's are unique, one set per character. The set bonuses and procs can be specific to the AT. Stalker's Guile puts you into Hide when it goes off, for example.

Scrappers get +Crit, Tankers get +Res, etc.

http://yfrog.com/oc1cnjj

Enhancement Catalyst turns ATIOs into Superior ATIO's, which are not tradeable. You combine them at level 50.

http://yfrog.com/gybl0jbj

The VRATIO percentages get higher, the procs hit more often, for bigger effects.

http://yfrog.com/od6e7lpj

http://yfrog.com/nwtq7pnj

http://yfrog.com/oc1cnjj

http://yfrog.com/gybl0jbj

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http://yfrog.com/nxx3zddj

Fire and Ice Tier 9 armors will come out in early 2012. Celestial Armor will be "put in the Disney Vault" once the third Tier 9 comes out.

They have stuff planned for Xmas and New Year's.

http://yfrog.com/khlzfgmwj

Q and A time.

http://yfrog.com/oelaeraj

http://yfrog.com/hs190xcj

http://yfrog.com/gz17ladj


They are still working on getting your veteran tokens up front.


Talk about the 30 day IO license.


They want to keep Incarnate pieces VIP only.


Starting out with a contact's call capability and the crafting table as possible QoL purchases. They considered the table. Posi has to talk to Black Scorpion to see if it's possible.


The Super Packs will be cheaper than 350 points. "Significantly cheaper."


They're going to keep Tier 9 VIP rewards for about 6 months.


Enhancement Catalysts exist only to boost ATIO's.


A player says he did the 70 merit PvPIO grind and says he'd pay to not have to do it again.


One of the devs want to put Rularuu weapons in the store.


They want to cycle Tier 9 VIP rewards due to not wanting it to become too complex and unwieldy.


They've been looking at how to do the Bank missions after you've outleveled them. It's another piece of arcane tech by people who don't work with the company. They're extremely interested in it, and as players themselves they want it. They've talked about it.


Posi forgot to plug in his laptop, so he has to turn it off.


Someone hasn't been watching the Ustreams and asks why they can't use /AuctionHouse in bases or missions. They answer it. Again.


For about the 8th or 9th time we're hearing laughter from the other panel room. Most of the Ustream (myself included) would rather be watching the Incarnate panel.


"Harriet Jones, Prime Minister. Is there a way to re-chose veteran rewards that I made a mistake on?"

It is technically possible, but they don't want to take anything away from someone.


Ghost Falcon, NPC Transformation powers: "They cost as much as they do because I really hate those people on eBay that are selling these for like $100 and $200 and $300."

"He means if he disproves of their actions. He doesn't hate them."

Posi: "You only hate them because you can't sell them for that much."


Accessing live servers from outside of the game client causes load issues.


Posi restates that adding 3 extra slots as a potential buy to the market broke a huge number of things. It's something they want to do. Second Measure says "It would likely require an entire revamp to the way the power system works."

Zwill: "So it accidently the whole thing?"


SG rename? They've looked into it, but they have to weigh it on if it is potentially worth Customer Service possibly murdering them.


Incarnate Room is laughing again.


So I still know nothing from the Incarnate or Power panels. Anybody got any dirt on those?


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Some will still say otherwise, but the booster packs don't seem that horrible.


 

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Originally Posted by Von Krieger View Post

So I still know nothing from the Incarnate or Power panels. Anybody got any dirt on those?
This is essential!



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Magic the Gathering?

ROFL


 

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Your highlights are amazing. Thank you once more for sharing, Von Krieger!

Hopefully at the latest we'll learn about the other panels when Zwillinger puts up the powerpoints next week.


 

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The more effort gone into dressing up this lottery-style feature, the more dispiriting it is in its implications for how Paragon Studios views its playerbase.

The repeated comparisons to Magic: The Gathering and Pokemon should be a warning sign.


 

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I foresee at least a couple people collecting solely the cards and not actually claiming the rewards on them because then they wouldn't have the cards.

Frankly though, not a bad way to do it if it's reasonably priced.

We'll see.


 

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Wait, WINDFALL is a RARE?! I get 8 of those multiple times a month with my overflowing Paragon Reward Tokens! (I hold 3 in Reserve at all times, and I'm sitting on something like 12 since I don't use windfalls unless I'm on a kill-all TF at 50)


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Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post
The more effort gone into dressing up this lottery-style feature, the more dispiriting it is in its implications for how Paragon Studios views its playerbase.

The repeated comparisons to Magic: The Gathering and Pokemon should be a warning sign.
Why? Both Pokemon and MTG have been licences to print money for their respective companies. Seems like something marketing would desperately like to tap into. Will they with this? I'm doubtful, but I hope they do as it will theoretically mean better things for the game.

Like all thing paragon market related I'm content to vote with what I like and what I don't with my wallet... so the more things they put up, the more chances they have to get me to say 'Oh, I like that.' and grab it.

If the super packs tank then they won't focus on them. If they sell well they will and complaints about the system and marketing's perception of the player base will be unjustified. (Or at least irrelevant from a business perspective.)


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The more effort gone into dressing up this lottery-style feature, the more dispiriting it is in its implications for how Paragon Studios views its playerbase.

The repeated comparisons to Magic: The Gathering and Pokemon should be a warning sign.
Those screenshots make a few things clear.

First, ATIO's are not guaranteed. Second, the rare/very rare guarantee is useless when Windfall and Reward Merits x 75 are considered rare.

I think Paragon is under the delusion that they are going to bring loads of new people to this creaky seven year old game with these marketing tricks. Actually, it seems more like they're just going to drive away their existing and returning players with these money grabs.

We'll see when the Q4 numbers come out.


 

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I'm sorry Developers.

but please keep your CCG Random Booster pack crap out of an MMO. I don't care how cheap it is, it's something I will never spend points on and I don't care for making exclusive content available on a random chance. Make that 'exclusive content' available in other forms though, and I've no worries.


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Why? Both Pokemon and MTG have been licences to print money for their respective companies. Seems like something marketing would desperately like to tap into. Will they with this? I'm doubtful, but I hope they do as it will theoretically mean better things for the game.
I've seen a few people sink ridiculous amounts of money into gambling for purely cosmetic items on Neopets -- sometimes hundreds of dollars for a single item, even when they don't know what that item is going to be. So I honestly can't blame any company for wanting to try to get some of the action.

Personally, though, I never touch that kind of content, and I find it distasteful in games that are open to children below the legal age for gambling.


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This feature won't go away because you say you don't like it. Your words don't matter.
Things the developers said at this panel about other changes suggest that's not true. If it were true, they would be lying when they say they read the forum feedback about the marketing things they have been putting out. On a non-marketing note, they wouldn't be saying the future of Incarnate progress was not going to introduce new salvage.

They don't always do what "we" seem to want, but they do state that they listen to it, and there is past evidence that's true.


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Honestly... I wouldn't mind the randomized pack if it were limited to frivolous things like... say... costumes or temps. Or perhaps even if they were a cheaper way for us to acquire certain items...

But as a source of exclusive items... some of which are actually useful and improve gameplay? No sir, I don't like it. I'm sorry, but it just screams "Devious time sink" to me.

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This feature won't go away because you say you don't like it. Your words don't matter.
On an individual basis, perhaps. But, if anything, Issue 21.5 has proven the devs *do* listen to us. And if it wasn't for those players who spoke their mind and told the devs what they didn't like, you'd be paying 15 Emp merits to unlock those shiny new Incarnate powers right now.


 

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Is there any way to download the Ustream videos? I'd so love to watch them over and over again, specially the last ones with so many exciting pieces of news



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Is there any way to download the Ustream videos? I'd so love to watch them over and over again, specially the last ones with so many exciting pieces of news
They should all have been recorded and available on Paragon's Ustream page.


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I'm sorry Developers.

but please keep your CCG Random Booster pack crap out of an MMO. I don't care how cheap it is, it's something I will never spend points on and I don't care for making exclusive content available on a random chance. Make that 'exclusive content' available in other forms though, and I've no worries.
This has been said many times in several threads, and I add my voice to it.

Non-deterministic purchases will never be made by me. Ever.


 

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they wouldn't be saying the future of Incarnate progress was not going to introduce new salvage.
That's because they didn't actually say that
What they said is that right now, they'd prefer not to add a new type of salvage, but it's still possible that they will if they think players have stockpiled way too much loot.


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About the only thing I care about here ("marketing" ain't my thing) is whether there will be things in the "Super Packs" not available for purchase from anywhere else. In other words, will I have to gamble with my money in search of costumes and instead get Inventions I do not want? So long as I don't have to gamble for anything, then sure. The packs sound good. Otherwise...


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They should all have been recorded and available on Paragon's Ustream page.
Shall I register myself in order to download them?



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Shall I register myself in order to download them?
Shouldn't be necessary. I've been watching old streams from their site without registering. If you don't see anything, it might not be up yet.


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