Maelstrom's Pistol Craftable Costume Recipe
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One of the recipe sets I hate is Undermined Defenses. It's such a long name and with the whole title of the recipe it fills the whole reward window text when I receive one.
So when I'm fighting and get one of those recipes and notice the reward text with a really long title (because at the time I'm looking at the chat window so I noticed a large/long reward text recipe) I'm like, "OOoOoOoOooH, a purple!...." *goes to actually read the title of the recipe* "dang it, another Undermined Defenses recipe "
On the other hand, there were only about 5 of us that were still around when he asked that so...no idea if the other 12-16 people got it or not.
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Hey all, just popping in here to give some clarification on this point:
There are two ways to obtain Maelstrom's Pistols as a costume piece. The recipe has a 4% chance to drop each time you see a pistol get knocked out of Maelstrom's hand in the TPN Campus incarnate trial. This occurs twice per playthrough on a successful trial - once when you defeat him inside the main TPN Campus building, and once when you defeat him outside during stage 4 of the trial. That means there's a 7.84% chance of somebody in the league getting the Maelstrom's Pistol recipe that you are currently seeing in the auction house listing. This recipe is tradeable and can be used by any dual pistols character or thugs mastermind at any level, meaning you can send it to your friend's new level 1 character to make a cool pistol for him to use. Using the recipe allows you to craft either the left pistol or the right pistol.
The other method of obtaining this costume piece is to complete the TPN Campus trial with an Incarnate character who uses either dual pistols or thugs, and then visit Empyrean Michael. You should then find that he will allow you to unlock both pistols on that character for a moderate Empyrean Merit cost. This ensures that all characters who can use dual pistols have a way of eventually unlocking Maelstrom's guns if that's what they want. The main goal with this reward is to give players multiple ways to earn a signature costume piece from an incarnate level villain, while making sense within the story of the trial (each time you beat him, he loses a gun, until he's left with only his fists and feet in the grand finale.) The idea here is that the recipe drop feels like a "bonus" - it allows you to use the pistol on a low level alt, or on a character you haven't done TPN with - but that any Dual Pistols or Thugs character who wants to unlock the piece for having defeated Maelstrom at TPN Campus is also able to do so.
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hmm, seeing that makes me wonder, so we have to get this drop TWO times in order to get both pistols and thats only per character?
is the version we can buy with emp merits account wide?
Arbiter Hawk is in a meeting, but he wanted me to post this:
Hey all, just popping in here to give some clarification on this point: There are two ways to obtain Maelstrom's Pistols as a costume piece. The recipe has a 4% chance to drop each time you see a pistol get knocked out of Maelstrom's hand in the TPN Campus incarnate trial. This occurs twice per playthrough on a successful trial - once when you defeat him inside the main TPN Campus building, and once when you defeat him outside during stage 4 of the trial. That means there's a 7.84% chance of somebody in the league getting the Maelstrom's Pistol recipe that you are currently seeing in the auction house listing. This recipe is tradeable and can be used by any dual pistols character or thugs mastermind at any level, meaning you can send it to your friend's new level 1 character to make a cool pistol for him to use. Using the recipe allows you to craft either the left pistol or the right pistol. The other method of obtaining this costume piece is to complete the TPN Campus trial with an Incarnate character who uses either dual pistols or thugs, and then visit Empyrean Michael. You should then find that he will allow you to unlock both pistols on that character for a moderate Empyrean Merit cost. This ensures that all characters who can use dual pistols have a way of eventually unlocking Maelstrom's guns if that's what they want. The main goal with this reward is to give players multiple ways to earn a signature costume piece from an incarnate level villain, while making sense within the story of the trial (each time you beat him, he loses a gun, until he's left with only his fists and feet in the grand finale.) The idea here is that the recipe drop feels like a "bonus" - it allows you to use the pistol on a low level alt, or on a character you haven't done TPN with - but that any Dual Pistols or Thugs character who wants to unlock the piece for having defeated Maelstrom at TPN Campus is also able to do so. |
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Having to unlock each pistol separately does sound a bit unnecessary. It would double the demand for the recipe on the market and thus double its price. And no other unlock works this way.
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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Story-themed costume drops aren't just for players - in the MoM Trial, Metronome tells us that he's using the repainted body of Siege after we defeated him in the BAF
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...Hey all, just popping in here to give some clarification on this point:
There are two ways to obtain Maelstrom's Pistols as a costume piece. The recipe has a 4% chance to drop each time you see a pistol get knocked out of Maelstrom's hand in the TPN Campus incarnate trial. This occurs twice per playthrough on a successful trial - once when you defeat him inside the main TPN Campus building, and once when you defeat him outside during stage 4 of the trial. That means there's a 7.84% chance of somebody in the league getting the Maelstrom's Pistol recipe... ...Using the recipe allows you to craft either the left pistol or the right pistol. The other method of obtaining this costume piece is to complete the TPN Campus trial with an Incarnate character who uses either dual pistols or thugs, and then visit Empyrean Michael. You should then find that he will allow you to unlock both pistols on that character for a moderate Empyrean Merit cost. This ensures that all characters who can use dual pistols have a way of eventually unlocking Maelstrom's guns if that's what they want. The main goal with this reward is to give players multiple ways to earn a signature costume piece from an incarnate level villain, while making sense within the story of the trial (each time you beat him, he loses a gun, until he's left with only his fists and feet in the grand finale.) The idea here is that the recipe drop feels like a "bonus" - it allows you to use the pistol on a low level alt, or on a character you haven't done TPN with - but that any Dual Pistols or Thugs character who wants to unlock the piece for having defeated Maelstrom at TPN Campus is also able to do so. |
Have two recipes drop per successful instance... if you want, have it be that the recipes aren't awarded until completion of the trial. But don't place this miniscule chance out there. Please, Positron, this will set a bad precedence.
*I say this with having only 2 DP toons, and little to no interest in grabbing this recipe.
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It should be awarded with a badge for completing the trial, just like every other unlockable weapon in the sodding game. If they're going to get a costume piece, at least they could have used precedent. Having it as a random rare drop just makes it feel like an armor or weapon drop from any other grindy MMO raid ever.
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to run that crap, don't get locked out. The way we'll have access to it is a bit of a hand
me down, but I'm fine with that, just like I was fine with having to get my pool c/d recipes
as hand me downs when the invention system first came in, since I don't like running TFs
that often either.
The drop odds and neccessity for two recipes concerns me, but something I'd have to see
how it shakes out.
Did you not see where he said that the recipe will be available for purchase via Emps once you complete the trial? It's a low drop chance, yes, but they're also putting in a guaranteed way of earning it too.
I think they just announced this backwards. It should've been presented that once you beat the trial you can buy it, and *then* added that, hey, there's also a chance the recipe can drop when taking him out.
The chance to drop should be considered icing and not the main way to try to get the recipe.
As long as I have a way to make it on a level 1 (or level 2) I'm okay with this.
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Did you not see where he said that the recipe will be available for purchase via Emps once you complete the trial? It's a low drop chance, yes, but they're also putting in a guaranteed way of earning it too.
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What Positron said is
The other method of obtaining this costume piece is to complete the TPN Campus trial with an Incarnate character who uses either dual pistols or thugs, and then visit Empyrean Michael. You should then find that he will allow you to unlock both pistols on that character for a moderate Empyrean Merit cost.
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and what I read there is that a dual pistol AT will be able to unlock the pistols, not buy the recipe, after running the trial for X empyrean merits.
So if you want a non-incarnate character with Maelstrom's pistols, you need the recipe drop whether you get them yourself or buy them on the AH.
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*shrug* oops, misinterpreted. Either way, it's a way to unlock it without relying on the recipe drop.
Great to see some loot that's actually hard to get (even if it's just cosmetic), although I hope they made the emp merit cost high enough to be noticeable. I'm sitting on hundreds of the things and have no use for them.
Unless they're releasing a single pistol powerset sometime soon, it seems pretty asinine to make you craft the weapon twice in order to have a matched set.
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