Discussion: Featured Items at the Paragon Market - 10/25/11


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Originally Posted by Chad Gulzow-Man View Post
Indeed. 480 Points is $6 (US).

I heard from someone who attended the last HeroCon that they were selling old costume codes for $20 apiece in the merch booth, and that they sold out of them. I'm more than happy to pay $6 for the convention codes.
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Way to scoop me. lol

I'm honestly surprised no one said "We paid twenty dollars for these at herocon! This is a SLAP IN THE FACE! OMG!" lol


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Does anyone know how these costume toggles work with our other player toggles or drawn weapons as far as GFX goes?

If I can draw my rikti sword or rifle, it'd be pretty cool. Almost that new AT I've been waiting for...


 

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While I dont particularly want any of these three, and I still think 480pp is too much, its nice to seen the convention only costume changes availible. If one of them had been the Freakshow Tank, I probably would have caved and spent the cash.


 

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Eh.. I have no use for any of those. Thanks anyway.


 

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As a person who traveled to San Diego Comic Con a few years ago ONLY to get s costume code, I can confidently say "Yes". People, or at least a friend and I, go to conventions for that reason alone. Not saying it's normal practice or widespread but it does happen.

As far as the costume codes go, they are way too expensive points-wise for me to consider getting them at this point. Being a completist, I of course want them all but refuse to pay the kind of money it would take to get them all. I'll wait for them to go on sale or for their prices to be adjusted. I imagine they're not selling all that well based on the comments here.

Lastly, I use the costume code changes for my Shapeshifter toon. It's perfect for that but conceptually I'm not sure what else they can be used for other than "dressing up" for Halloween. Hence, why they're over-priced.


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As a person who traveled to San Diego Comic Con a few years ago ONLY to get s costume code, I can confidently say "Yes". People, or at least a friend and I, go to conventions for that reason alone. Not saying it's normal practice or widespread but it does happen.

As far as the costume codes go, they are way too expensive points-wise for me to consider getting them at this point. Being a completist, I of course want them all but refuse to pay the kind of money it would take to get them all. I'll wait for them to go on sale or for their prices to be adjusted. <b>I imagine they're not selling all that well based on the comments here.</b>

Lastly, I use the costume code changes for my Shapeshifter toon. It's perfect for that but conceptually I'm not sure what else they can be used for other than "dressing up" for Halloween. Hence, why they're over-priced.
Um, that's a weird conclusion to draw, considering your very first point.

A grand total of 28 comments made, half of them disagree, and you want to make a statement based on THAT?! Forums are a MINOR percentage of everyone that plays, at that.


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As a person who traveled to San Diego Comic Con a few years ago ONLY to get s costume code, I can confidently say "Yes". People, or at least a friend and I, go to conventions for that reason alone. Not saying it's normal practice or widespread but it does happen.

As far as the costume codes go, they are way too expensive points-wise for me to consider getting them at this point. Being a completist, I of course want them all but refuse to pay the kind of money it would take to get them all. I'll wait for them to go on sale or for their prices to be adjusted. I imagine they're not selling all that well based on the comments here.

Lastly, I use the costume code changes for my Shapeshifter toon. It's perfect for that but conceptually I'm not sure what else they can be used for other than "dressing up" for Halloween. Hence, why they're over-priced.
Ok, so you're willing to travel to San Diego just to get a costume code, but $5 for a costume code is too much.

Does not compute.


 

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I would love to have the PPD Hardsuit for one of my characters, but I can't justify the points for a costume toggle.

In actuality, I just want those boots!


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I also would love to have the PPD Hardsuit as a costume set like the IDF set instead of a toggle. But I'm going to get it anyways because its one of the best designed things in the game.


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Costume Codes are not expected to be worthwhile to the general playerbase. They are there to satisfy the few who want them. In fact, they probably don't most players running wearing these (and I don't either).
This.

I'm starting to find it a bit funny that there seems to be people out there who think that EVERYTHING the Paragon Market sells should not only appeal to ALL players all the time but that the items should be sold for prices that ALL players can agree are low enough. Real brick-n-mortar stores don't work that way - why should a virtual one?

I mean put it this way: How many real live stores do you walk into and expect that absolutely everything for sale in the store is something you want to buy AND is being sold there for an affordable price? That basically never happens to me.

Basically it's not a "failure" when the Paragon Market offers something you don't want to buy so people shouldn't whine about when it happens. Just accept it and wait for something else.


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If one of them had been the Freakshow Tank, I probably would have caved and spent the cash.
We can reasonably assume that they will get around to offering all of the special convention costume codes eventually. Now that they are selling -any- of them why would there ever be a legitimate reason for holding the rest of them back at this point?


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I also can say that yes, people DO go to cons they wouldn't otherwise go to for these codes. One thing I've been thankful about this last year or so is the Meet n Greet format that doesn't require a con badge but still gives people a chance to get a code - that alone has saved me PAX membership and would have saved me SDCC membership this year if not for opting out of going to San Diego at all due to a sick kitty this year. To clarify that, I would have paid the additional travel costs to go, despite not wishing to even attend the con (I can't handle the crowds as large as the crowds at SDCC, but would have traveled with my husband to San Diego to attend the meet n greet without visiting the con at all). And one year I did actually go to SDCC, and two years for PAX, for no specific reason other than the costume codes. Sure, I browsed the rest of the con and got other goodies while there, but the decision to go at all rested 100% on the CoH costume codes (that I almost never use - but darn it, I have them ALL and I'm going to find a way to keep getting them all because of my OCD completionist or collection-ist nature).

At the last Herocon, prior codes were available for $20 (and even then, not all of the previously released codes) - a friend of ours had just paid over $125 the previous week to buy a code they were missing (and yes, that code was offered for $20 from the Herocon 'store'). So people are willing to pay $6 for these - it's less than 1/3rd of the last known Paragon or NCSoft value given to these (the $20/code asking price at Herocon). I for one was shocked they weren't asking more for these than they are for some of the non-exclusive codes in the store - some of the halloween ones going for 800pts and they haven't ever been deemed "exclusive" just time limited to the Halloween event but free to anyone during that time if you ToT and get it.

Personally - I'm less willing to buy these at all because part of the fun for /me/ is the card they are printed on. I want the cards to go with the codes - so a $6 digital purchase isn't going to work for me. I would buy previous codes at Meet N Greets if reps sold previous codes with the cards for up to ~$10 and possibly as much as $20 but so far I've been lucky and have all the codes and cards thusfar released at con exclusives. I'm still bummed that I don't have a card for the Coralax costume (for example) as it was only available by "snag it first" methods and never at a con that I know of.

But yeah...I have spent the money and braved the crowds of several cons just because of these "carrots". I might have opted to go to the con for other reasons were it not for my issues with most cons due to too many people in too little space. The two Herocons I attended seemed to be just about right for me. But I braved those cons and my crowd anxiety to get those codes (and yes, enjoyed myself somewhat checking everything else out - but wouldn't have made the choice to go based on the 'maybe I'll find something interesting to look at' other than those codes).


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I will certainly never buy costume codes for 480 points. I've heard about the folks who paid $20 for them at/after conventions. More power to them, and it's their money, but I think they're cookoo.

The idea of going to a con just for the codes? That's just wholly unimaginable to me.

Edit: I think the other stuff in the OP is nice and mostly reasonably priced. I won't buy it all, but the price isn't why.


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Way to scoop me. lol
You are, indeed, the "someone" was referring to in my previous post.

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As a person who traveled to San Diego Comic Con a few years ago ONLY to get s costume code, I can confidently say "Yes". People, or at least a friend and I, go to conventions for that reason alone. Not saying it's normal practice or widespread but it does happen.
Dude, unless you moved and I didn't hear about it you live a driveable distance from San Diego.


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The idea of going to a con just for the codes? That's just wholly unimaginable to me.
I went to ComicCon this year for the singular purpose of meeting the CoH development team. That's not to say that's all I did there, but I wouldn't have gone at all if Paragon Studios hadn't had a presence there.


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I went to ComicCon this year for the singular purpose of meeting the CoH development team. That's not to say that's all I did there, but I wouldn't have gone at all if Paragon Studios hadn't had a presence there.
Most of my long post above would be simplified this way as well...I suck at short and sweet posts apparently


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We can reasonably assume that they will get around to offering all of the special convention costume codes eventually. Now that they are selling -any- of them why would there ever be a legitimate reason for holding the rest of them back at this point?
Some of them might be held back a couple years (like the Olympian Guard one - Anni would KILL THEM if it was 600 pts so soon after it was released), but other than that? Nah they'll bring them all out sooner or later (I'm hoping for meat doctor - I might actually make a melee crab with THAT costume).


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So, in what way do these costumes differ from the ones you get at ToT? Besides that they are permanent?


 

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I heard from someone who attended the last HeroCon that they were selling old costume codes for $20 apiece in the merch booth, and that they sold out of them.
Just to point out, them selling out of the arbitrary number of codes they decided to print off doesn't really mean much

I didn't buy any, not worth the price for me. But I did buy 3 hero/3 villain pint glasses, some which still survive to this day!


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Ok, so you're willing to travel to San Diego just to get a costume code, but $5 for a costume code is too much.

Does not compute.
As others have said, and I can confirm, costume codes sold fairly briskly at past Hero Cons at $20 a pop. So just because you don't think it's worth $6 worth of Paragon Points doesn't mean everyone agrees.

I'm very glad to see them made available. I've wanted the Rikti code for a while...

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Thank you for offering these costume powers to people who had no chance to go to these conventions. It's great you hand them out for free during those events, but selling them afterwards in the Paragon Market will be a great way to handle any future costume powers like this.
I agree with this sentiment 1000%.

Compared to the cost of either traveling to a convention out of state or having to look to alternatives, these are a great price.

Hell, even at $10 a pop I didn't have a problem with the pricing.

So with that, thanks for offering these and hope to see more convention codes in the store soon

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I am usually quite supportive of this, one of my favorite games, but.. 480 PP for.. each costume? I have to agree with the nay-Sayers on this one. I like neat things like that, but not for that price. Feel sorry for those who paid $20 a pop for one.


 

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Does anyone know how these costume toggles work with our other player toggles or drawn weapons as far as GFX goes?

If I can draw my rikti sword or rifle, it'd be pretty cool. Almost that new AT I've been waiting for...
they should work with all toggles except toggles that provide any form of stealth (the exception being super speed)

concealment powers, stalker hide, arctic fog (and similar), all are mutually exclusive with these powers for example (as a side note, you cannot have them toggled at same time but can still accept them from teammates as outside buffs and click powers like illusion.group invis will still work with these)

as for weapons, its kinda iffy, some models do work, some models dont, but overall i think a majority of them do


 

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concealment powers, stalker hide, arctic fog (and similar), all are mutually exclusive with these powers for example
Amusingly, Shadowy Presence works with these (and the Rikti looks very imposing as it goes mostly goes solid black but the glowing portions retain full brightness). Not that it makes it a worthwhile strealth power or anything, more just something goofy to do.

Hmm... I'm guessing the +Stealth from some travel IOs would still work right?


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I agree with this sentiment 1000%.

Compared to the cost of either traveling to a convention out of state or having to look to alternatives, these are a great price.

Hell, even at $10 a pop I didn't have a problem with the pricing.

So with that, thanks for offering these and hope to see more convention codes in the store soon

*cough* Ring Mistress *cough*

The prices of prior Convention codes were supposed to be higher, but after the Spectral Pirate Power offered last month:

We heard:
1) Costume Powers? Where are the Costume Pieces?
In the past, we called the Convention Codes "Costume Powers". They should have been called Transformation Powers because these "powers" transform your character into an NPC. As such, all "Costume Powers" (at least at the store-level in their descriptions) refer to the powers as "Transformation Powers".

2) 600 Points - too high.
Noted. Transformation Powers are now 480 points.

3) Transformation Power can be replicated by the Costume Creator:
Noted. We'll only offer unique stuff now that can't be replicated by our so-very-robust-costume-creator. (And for the players that bought the Pirate Power, you'll be the only ones who may have that power. Ever. How's that for exclusive/limited?)

Regarding the Ring Mistriss, that character might make an appearance around Carnival / Mardi Gras time....maybe. (In all seriousness, we didn't want to flood the market with a lot of the Transformation powers).