Dev Chat Highlights, September 22: Flipping the Bird with Positron during the Downtime
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Posted on: 2011-09-23 05:45 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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What about making it as part of a specific power set. Like a Kheldian transformation. Having a branching beast power (Transformation) set would be cool. Serpent strangle (Serpent form). Diving eagles talon (Humanoid and or Avian form form.)|
Originally Posted by Von Krieger
Chat: "With the Talons of Vengeance could we maybe see a serpentine lower body on the market?" Posi says that's not going to work. Sad VK is sad. They don't differentiate upper and lower body animations, so all the animations on Snakes and Talons are customly done. They are complete custom rigs from head to toe. 99.9% of the attack animations wouldn't work. It's one of the very few things Posi has to say no to. |
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Originally Posted by Von Krieger
Posi: "Still won't work. 1, You still have all the emotes. 2, you'd want people that wanted to play Snakemen. So now we're doing even more individual animation. Adding a new player rig exponentially increases the work for an emote or a power pool."
Zwill: "In the time we do that we could do how many powers, how many emotes?" |
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Originally Posted by Von Krieger
Zwill: "There are a couple of reasons. Sometimes things change, or change throughout the design process. A designer has an idea, the designer takes it to his bosses who go "That's great, but how about this, this and this?", then it goes to Engineering who laughs at it balefully and goes "That's not possible with our current system. But what we can do is something more like this." So the designers change it so it will work.
The other answer is marketing; you have to strategically release information so it makes the biggest splash." |
And if we knew more about how or why something didn't work we might be able to find more ways around the problem.
You have some very smart and creative people here. Why not use all the talent you have access to. Instead of just bits and pieces of it.
Marketing is only us full for attracting new customers. But your Posting to, say a VIP only section (with a non disclose request) of the forum where everybody already has paid there 30 silver, there should be no problem.
Just remember to put somewhere visible that all things inclosed is not subject to inclusion to the game.
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They tried that once. People still blast them for broken promises over it.
| Just remember to put somewhere visible that all things inclosed is not subject to inclusion to the game. |
Dawncaller - The Circle of Dawn
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You're trying to summon a Red Giant STAR into the thread? Youch.|
Originally Posted by je_saist
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And I discovered the combine already slotted enhancements thing completely by accident a year ago. Having played the game for 5 years by that point. It's less well known than you might think! (Mainly because in the old tutorial there was no way to demonstrate this particular feature of combining enhancements, because you only had one slot in each power.)
The wisdom of Shadowe: Ghostraptor: The Shadowe is wise ...; FFM: Shadowe is no longer wise.
; Techbot_Alpha: Also, what Shadowe said. It seems he is still somewhat wise 
; Bull Throttle: Shadowe was unwise in this instance...; Rock_Powerfist: in this instance Shadowe is wise.; Techbot_Alpha: Shadowe is very wise *nods*; Zortel: *Quotable line about Shadowe being wise goes here.*
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Does he really not understand that by creating another incarnate currency, he just makes it true that we're forced to grind content. It completely negates any validity behind the idea of "just wait until there are more trials". If new trials = new currency, then there are two grindy bottlenecks instead of one. The could release a hundred more trials, but if they don't share the same currency with the one we have now, it's meaningless.
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Originally Posted by Jazual
No. No. No!
If anything, use the same damn salvage, but increase quantities required. |
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That's rather the point....
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Originally Posted by rsclark
Does he really not understand that by creating another incarnate currency, he just makes it true that we're forced to grind content. It completely negates any validity behind the idea of "just wait until there are more trials". If new trials = new currency, then there are two grindy bottlenecks instead of one. The could release a hundred more trials, but if they don't share the same currency with the one we have now, it's meaningless.
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"Men strunt �r strunt och snus �r snus
om ock i gyllne dosor.
Och rosor i ett sprucket krus
�r st�ndigt alltid rosor."
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I think that only works with Troy Hickman, Troy Hickman, Troy Hickman
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Originally Posted by je_saist
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On Justice
Global @Desi Nova Twitter: @desi_nova Steam: Desi_nova. I don't do Xbox or PS3
And even then it's just a myth.
Troy Hickman - So proud to have contributed to and played in this wonderful CoH universe
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I've been playing continuously since beta. I know tons of stuff about this game. But there is still stuff that I don't know (I've never even tried the LRSF!), and lots of stuff that I knew, but have forgotten. And stuff that I still remember which isn't true any more (like the location of the Paragon Dance Party door in IP). |
Originally Posted by Positron
Everyone seems to be getting on Zwill's case about not knowing something about the game.
The game is BIG. Everyone misses something. I told a designer the other day that you can combine two enhancements that are already IN a power (i.e. not including one in your tray) and they had no idea that was in the game. Been there since launch (or a little after), not many people know it can be done because the UI was set up for simplification in this case. |
In general I'm much more familiar with the older content and system, and know less about the newer stuff like City of Villains and whatever that Rogue thing was. I'm sure I'll catch up eventually... assuming they stop adding content faster than I can play it. (Just need to complete the sewer trial and I'm done with all the content from Issue 1. No, not the Death from Below sewer trial, I mean the original Abandoned Sewer Trial. And I bet there are current players who have never heard of it.)
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Blood of the Black Stream! Avilans! City Vault!|
Originally Posted by Dalantia
They tried that once. People still blast them for broken promises over it.
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Ok, I understand about Avilans, and the City Vault (though I still think they should just scale back the scope and get back to work). But I wish someone could just tell us what the heck they had in mind when that hint about the Blood of the Black Stream was dropped. I'm still dying of curiosity.
Yes, it has been a very slow death.
Oooh, and the original Super Secret Out of Combat System! The IO system we got doesn't bear much resemblance to the peeks of the original thing that was being specced.
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Wait, you can do that, really? Huh. That would have been helpful back around i3-i8 if only I'd known... and yes, I've been playing continuously since my registration date, and I'm fairly knowledgeable about the game. Live and learn I guess, although nowadays it's basically a useless bit of trivia... |
Originally Posted by DumpleBerry
No I'm not. I've always done that, and it's always been there. You can do that today. It was always helpful when you had a good SO drop. Bam, you could make room inside a power for the new SO, and get a new +1 in your DOs out of it.
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But it's New Content! Don't People want New Shinies?! WE like New Shinies!!! You must like New Shinies too, right?!!!!|
Originally Posted by rsclark
Does he really not understand that by creating another incarnate currency, he just makes it true that we're forced to grind content. It completely negates any validity behind the idea of "just wait until there are more trials". If new trials = new currency, then there are two grindy bottlenecks instead of one. The could release a hundred more trials, but if they don't share the same currency with the one we have now, it's meaningless.
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Bleh...Revamp > New Shinies. Every. Fragging. Time.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Smoke & Mirrors.
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Originally Posted by TroyHickman
You're welcome.
What'd I do? |
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
z is no different then anyone else who either doesnt read patch notes or doesnt play beta.then bugs people on live to find out where.yes you know who you are people!
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No worries. It will be 641.8 years before it hears the summons, then another 641.8 before it can get here. I figure I will be dead and buried a good 50 or 60 years before that.
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Originally Posted by Shadowe
You're trying to summon a Red Giant STAR into the thread? Youch.
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Tell that to the Circle of Thorns.
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Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
But it's New Content! Don't People want New Shinies?! WE like New Shinies!!! You must like New Shinies too, right?!!!!
Bleh...Revamp > New Shinies. Every. Fragging. Time. |
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So was something announced or no??
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Originally Posted by Von Krieger
They're apparently going to announce something on Monday.
Zwill: "Some people have found the information, but it's something we'd like to reveal in an appropriate time and format?" Staff Fighting? |
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Since announcements are so rare on Mondays, my guess is that maybe Tuesday or Wednesday was meant. That or the announcement was pushed back for some reason.
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Originally Posted by Darkbridger
So was something announced or no??
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They announced the new proposed forum rules and a plan to change the forum structure.
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Originally Posted by Darkbridger
So was something announced or no??
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If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
What'd I do?
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