Villians how to fix redside
Well, going by the repeatable faction contacts in First Ward, so do the game mechanics - anyone flagged as Resisatnce can also access the Hero contact there, and anyone flagged as loyalist can access the Villain contact - but Resistance players can't access the Villain contact, and loyalist players can't access the Hero contact - but that could just be another one of those "bugs"
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Would a city filled with villains (nevermind that I'm sure you have the villain who cares about the people) that outside of a few strict laws, are allowed to get away with anything they can manage to powerplay away from another, have a nice looking city to live in?
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Using those zones as a way of guessing what happens next in the Incarnate storyline isn't really a very good idea ![]() |
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Putting aside the ridiculous racial tie-in, if there were a rationing or division of resources and there were four of them and six of you then you would deserve sixty percent of the allotted resources as compared to their forty percent. Dividing the resources fifty-fifty would, in fact, be unfair at that point.
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Except that people are not exacted bound to blue side and they can visit red side with their vigilantes and create new characters there at any time. Adding unbalanced updates would just draw villains away from red side and make it even less populous than it currently is.
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The best way to fix redside would be to prevent access by people who think it needs fixing.
The problem isn't with the zones or the content.
The problem is with the fact that the majority of the people who pick up the game do so because they want to play a superhero. Revamping the zones and contacts isn't going to make people want to play it if they don't want to be a villain in the first place.
I suppose that's a good sign for the human race as a whole if you look at this particular cross section of society: More people would rather be good guys than bad guys.
Though, I will say as someone who does play both sides: The early levels of villainside content get REALLY stale by the 40th time you've done them.
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Only when they start helping the Resistance take down Tyrant
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No, just poor game design. They obviously mixed things up between factions when they launched Going Rogue, giving both sides their good and bad factions, so restricting Loyalists only to Villain content, and vice versa, is pretty unfair (and doesn't make a lot of sense when you have terrorists running heroic missions and wholesome (albeit likely ignorant) heroes who want to save the day and help people being forced to do villainous missions.
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The 1-20 GR content already pushes every Praetorian avatar into a position of resistance to Tyrant and his dictatorship - so it's natural that the First Ward storyline would fit with that situation, and have the contacts be Resistance or Resistance allies.
The higher the level of the content, the closer it has to be the Incarnate storyline, where we're helping the Resistance smash Tyrant and his loyalist forces.
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It's sensible game design - First Ward is 20-29, so it's over halfway to 50, which means that the content needs to be moving towards the Incarnate content, where everyone is fighting Tyrant and the loyalists.
The 1-20 GR content already pushes every Praetorian avatar into a position of resistance to Tyrant and his dictatorship - so it's natural that the First Ward storyline would fit with that situation, and have the contacts be Resistance or Resistance allies. The higher the level of the content, the closer it has to be the Incarnate storyline, where we're helping the Resistance smash Tyrant and his loyalist forces. |
Basically still an idealist, wanting to attain that beautiful paradise and protect its people, but not capable of supporting the man she used to believe in so strongly.
In her heart, she's a Loyalist, but loyal to Praetoria and its people, not to Cole.
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I'm not going to read through this entire thread, but I will say this: I remember the OP posting the same thing about a year ago. And the year before that.
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It's sensible game design - First Ward is 20-29, so it's over halfway to 50, which means that the content needs to be moving towards the Incarnate content, where everyone is fighting Tyrant and the loyalists.
The 1-20 GR content already pushes every Praetorian avatar into a position of resistance to Tyrant and his dictatorship - so it's natural that the First Ward storyline would fit with that situation, and have the contacts be Resistance or Resistance allies. The higher the level of the content, the closer it has to be the Incarnate storyline, where we're helping the Resistance smash Tyrant and his loyalist forces. |
Also NOTHING you do there determines in anyway shape or form whether you will be a hero or villain. You can choose to do nothing but support tyrant and murder the innocent people of Praetoria all throughout GR and still choose to be a hero.
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Which makes one wonder what the point of all those special system were when they were planning to just dump morality choices for the rest of the game. GR probably could have been out sooner with more content had they just dumped the morality system from the beginning and created arcs that lead to the path we already are on.
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For example, Vanessa DeVore has been revealed as the guiding force behind the Resistance, and Calvin Scott is just their military commander - but now that Vanessa is dead, and the influence she had over Calvin might be lost, and rather than looking at the bigger picture, he might decide to try and get Aurora back by launching an attack on Mother Mayhem's asylum, with the justification that it has to be done at once because without Vanessa to shield the Resistance from the Seers, the entire movement is in danger - plus, there's also the possibility that Penelope Yin, who also happens to be in the aylum, might be lined up as replacement for her mother as the protector of the Resistance from the loyalist thought police.
So we'd naturally help with the assault on the Asylum, but run into problems with Calvin if it became clear that the only way to defeat Mother Mayhem was to kill her, meaning that Aurora would also be lost forever - and the Resistance commandos that had helped us attack the asylum would probably side with their leader, rather that the visitors from Primal Earth.
And what better place would there be for Calvin's obsession to tip over into madness in the very place where it all began, and faced again with the monster who stole his wife? The final fight would see us versus Mother Mayhem and her Seers, plus Calvin Scott and his Resisatnce commandos, with Penelope Yin and possibly Katie Douglas helping us - it'd be insanity in the asylum
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When we defeated them, Mother Mayhem and Calvin could both be fatally wounded, but Praetor Tilman's consciousness would have been destroyed with some kind of mental overload in a last desperate attempt to stop us, so that would allow Calvin and Aurora to share a moment before they both died.
Penelope Yin could then lead the Resistance, which would now have a hgue army of libertaed Seers to help them, and the last major hurdle between us and Tyrant would be gone - we'd have turned back his invasion, and fought our way through his evil empire, defeating his Praetorian Guard one after the other, leaving only Praetor Duncan and her boyfriend in their tower in Nova Praetoria for the final showdown
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He might have to be dealt with later on if he does something crazy
![]() For example, Vanessa DeVore has been revealed as the guiding force behind the Resistance, and Calvin Scott is just their military commander - but now that Vanessa is dead, and the influence she had over Calvin might be lost, and rather than looking at the bigger picture, he might decide to try and get Aurora back by launching an attack on Mother Mayhem's asylum, with the justification that it has to be done at once because without Vanessa to shield the Resistance from the Seers, the entire movement is in danger - plus, there's also the possibility that Penelope Yin, who also happens to be in the aylum, might be lined up as replacement for her mother as the protector of the Resistance from the loyalist thought police. So we'd naturally help with the assault on the Asylum, but run into problems with Calvin if it became clear that the only way to defeat Mother Mayhem was to kill her, meaning that Aurora would also be lost forever - and the Resistance commandos that had helped us attack the asylum would probably side with their leader, rather that the visitors from Primal Earth. And what better place would there be for Calvin's obsession to tip over into madness in the very place where it all began, and faced again with the monster who stole his wife? The final fight would see us versus Mother Mayhem and her Seers, plus Calvin Scott and his Resisatnce commandos, with Penelope Yin and possibly Katie Douglas helping us - it'd be insanity in the asylum ![]() When we defeated them, Mother Mayhem and Calvin could both be fatally wounded, but Praetor Tilman's consciousness would have been destroyed with some kind of mental overload in a last desperate attempt to stop us, so that would allow Calvin and Aurora to share a moment before they both died. Penelope Yin could then lead the Resistance, which would now have a hgue army of libertaed Seers to help them, and the last major hurdle between us and Tyrant would be gone - we'd have turned back his invasion, and fought our way through his evil empire, defeating his Praetorian Guard one after the other, leaving only Praetor Duncan and her boyfriend in their tower in Nova Praetoria for the final showdown ![]() |
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toon will only do anything against Cole if there is a final gain in power to be had.
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Still... my full loyalist Power Division power-mad ego-centric villain who for now kills for Cole ... That toon will only do anything against Cole if there is a final gain in power to be had. Changing the story earlier on to make that toon anti-Cole is not working and destroying the alignment part of 1-20.
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When we defeated them, Mother Mayhem and Calvin could both be fatally wounded, but Praetor Tilman's consciousness would have been destroyed with some kind of mental overload in a last desperate attempt to stop us, so that would allow Calvin and Aurora to share a moment before they both died.
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I still like the idea of him sneaking up to Anti-Matter's space station now that Keyes himself is down, and deciding "**** it, I'll nuke 'em all from orbit", and getting his own raid in response though, personally. It's (a)very Calvin Scott-ish, and (b)an excuse to have an epic battle in front of a space window overlooking the Earth.
When the devs designed CoV, players complained that they were forced to serve a crazed dictator and his evil organization - they took that feedback onboard when designing GR and the Paretorian storyline, and now players are complaining about being forced to not serve a crazed dictator and his evil organization
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In CoV, you kowtow to a 3rd world despot who can't keep his mancrush under control. In Praetoria, you honorably serve a man trying desperately to keep humanity from wiping itself out.
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I guess that was lost on you, or I was more subtle than I intended.
My real point is: It's not that simple, sorry.
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