Worst Movie with the Best Cast?
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Posted on: 2011-08-23 19:45 in Comic and Hero-Villain Culture
Although I personally liked its weird surrealism, I know I've heard a lot of hate for this next one.
I'll suggest Toys with Robin Williams, Michael Gambon, Donald O'Conner, Robin Wright Penn, and Joan Cusack. (alright, and LL Cool J, too. )
Am I the only person here who LOVES 1941 (particularly the John Williams score) with a passion that will not die??
By a curious coincidence, Batman Forever is now on ITV2 as I write this. On the face of it, you've got Tommy Lee Jones, whose awesomeness may not be questioned..
You also have Jim Carrey, who was at the time a very hot property in Hollywood. Nicole Kidman. Chris O'Donnell, who'd just come off the rather lovely Circle of Friends. And Val Kilmer, who was... a nutjob. In fact, described by Joel Silver as "the most psychologically damaged human being ever to walk on a film set". But actually got the best reviews, oddly enough.
So you have an epic budget, Joel Schumacher - more than competent to direct as evidenced by "Lost Boys" and the Grisham movies...
...and one of the worst scripts ever committed to computer memory. Ladies and gentlemen, meet Akiva Goldsman, writer of not just Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, but Da Vinci Code, Angels & Demons, Lost In Space, Poseidon, Hancock and Deep Blue Sea. A track record of devastation through the 90s and 00s.
Actors can do a lot with the lines they have to speak. Alec Guinness managed to put so much gravitas into Lucas's lacklustre lines that millions believed in the Force. But... there are some scripts that should have never got to casting, let alone not been laughed out of a pitch meeting.
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Too much teeth grinding to let that one pass. I also liked that movie and have to disagree on this one.|
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Originally Posted by Oliin
So ... It's not exaclty the best cast (I don't know if much starring Robert Urich counts as 'best cast') but The Ice Pirates has some head-scratchers.
On the one hand you have space herpes, then on the other hand you have Ron Perlman, John Carradine and oddest of all Anjelica Huston. To be fair, I rather like the movie, but that's part nostalgia and part being so bad it's entertaining. |
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Totally agree.
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Originally Posted by Rodoan
Its hard to compete with the combined talent of a dozen actors when trying to go for "best cast" but Independence Day should be in there somewhere.
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I only thought of The Expendables this afternoon, well after reading this thread. I think it's a very good example. It's got a star studded action movie cast (not to imply they are exactly good actors, but stars nonetheless). It was also pretty awful. Sure, it had lots of explosions, but the dialog and plot were really bad even for an action film. I mean I can't even think of a single memorable line. That's just pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Attercap
For what it was supposed to be delivering, I thought The Expendables fell short on delivery, though it did an excellent job of why you typically want your action star to be surrounded by eloquent villains. That way someone in the movie could be understood!
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I felt that Inception was pulled from "horrible" to "okay, though not that great" by the strength of the fantastic cast, but I don't think that's the kind of answer you're looking for. If I understand the question right, you're looking for a movie someone thinks is (1) has a good cast but (2) is still bad in spite of that. Honestly, I can't think of any that fit those criteria, even being extremely subjective about what constitutes "good" and "bad."
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Kurt Russell was probably the biggest name down for Solo, and he'd probably have been pretty good.
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I actually like Alien 3, now Alien 4 - that'll make you hate life enough to push the earth right into the sun.
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Originally Posted by Sugar_Rush
Battlefield Earth would have to win this thread for me, but an honourable mention should go to Alien 3...wow they screwed up with that.
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Saw Alien 3 opening night. I kid not, at the end, the whole packed theater left quiet and apparently depressed. I know I was. Didn't go see 4 because 3 was such a downer. Loved the second film though.
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Originally Posted by ebon3
I actually like Alien 3, now Alien 4 - that'll make you hate life enough to push the earth right into the sun.
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The problem with Alien 3 was not that the movie sucked, it was that it sucked as a sequel to Aliens. If you had never seen either of the first two movies before, that movie would have been a passable scifi monster movie. Decent, even. But when you're following one of the greatest horror films of all time and one of the biggest action movies of all time with a movie that looks like it was shot on a budget someone charged on their mastercard filmed on location at a site they passed on for Robocop and with special guest star Roc, and you *market* the movie as the best of the three, the producers should be thankful opening night audiences didn't put out a hit on them.
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Originally Posted by Rodoan
Saw Alien 3 opening night. I kid not, at the end, the whole packed theater left quiet and apparently depressed. I know I was. Didn't go see 4 because 3 was such a downer. Loved the second film though.
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I was also going to mention this movie even though I generally like it. It also had two more Academy Award winners besides Cuba Gooding Jr. - Whoopi Goldberg and Kathy Baker.
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Originally Posted by Deacon_NA
"Rat Race" - not as star-studded as the above, but John Cleese, Seth Green, Cuba Gooding Jr (when he was still respected) and most importantly (to raising my hopes) directed by Jerry Zucker. It just didn't work.
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I think it was actually the first movie with a Best Actor and Best Actress pair that were black; I seem to recall them mentioning that in a featurette or commentary.|
Originally Posted by Bubbawheat
I was also going to mention this movie even though I generally like it. It also had two more Academy Award winners besides Cuba Gooding Jr. - Whoopi Goldberg and Kathy Baker.
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Also, I liked Rat Race.
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I'd probably add another vote for Aliens 3 for this thread had I seen it all the way through. I remember sitting and watching it for 20 minutes on TV and thinking the whole time that it just had to be a straight-to-video release.
Staying on topic of the Alien franchise , was I the only one a little put off by Bill Paxton's performance in Aliens? The lines "Game Over, Man!" and "It's a Bug hunt!" were better uttered by Tom Servo and Crow on the "Manos the Hands of Fate" episode of MST3K.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie, but I was SO glad when his character was killed off.
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This. I thought it was fine spiritual successor/homage to It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFoamerang
Also, I liked Rat Race.
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The ones that come to mind at the moment would be Abrahm's new Star Trek, Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, and the first two Star Wars prequels. Good casts, but those movies were just god awful.
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One could even argue with 20/20 hindsight that the attempt at Alien 3 was semi-doomed to be considered a "failure" of sorts regardless of what they did because the first two were already so great that the odds that the third would be up to that same level of awesomeness were relatively low to begin with.|
Originally Posted by Arcanaville
The problem with Alien 3 was not that the movie sucked, it was that it sucked as a sequel to Aliens.
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Originally Posted by Chairman Moth
Staying on topic of the Alien franchise , was I the only one a little put off by Bill Paxton's performance in Aliens? The lines "Game Over, Man!" and "It's a Bug hunt!" were better uttered by Tom Servo and Crow on the "Manos the Hands of Fate" episode of MST3K.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the movie, but I was SO glad when his character was killed off. |
Remember at first the Marines were all arrogant and cocky about the mission thinking it'd be super-easy. But then once they were in the middle of it they realized they were in big trouble and they started to panic. Paxton's reactions allowed the audience to get a sense that the s*** had hit the fan and that they were in serious danger.
All that and besides when you think about it those quotes were among the coolest ones of the movie. I couldn't imagine the movie -without- those quotes.
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Are Uwe Boll movies too easy a target? Because of the director, are they auto-bad despite containing usually awesome cast members? In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale particularly stands out for me.
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My opinion is that Mars Attacks! succeeded in what it was trying to accomplish. It was meant to be a bad, campy, slightly nostalgic flick about little green men coming down with their ray guns of doom. Asking Mars Attack! to be a "great" movie, would be like asking Monty Python to be serious...
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That kind of letdown trifecta is reserved for such filmic fiascoes as 1941 (director: Stephen Speilberg; screenwriters: Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale; cast: Dan Aykroyd, John Belushi, Christopher Lee, Ned Beatty, Toshiro Mifune, John Candy and Joe Flaherty).