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If you genuinely believe you're bad at PVP...then why do you still take part in it?
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Originally Posted by Tokyo
What do you mean 'IF' it's true? You obviously know nothing about me. I'm the worst pvper on Virtue.
Baddos trash-talk. So despite your polite request I'll have to decline. Enjoy being gud Xan i'll enjoy being the worst pvper on Virtue. d;D |
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I'm a Zoner. Zoners don't PvP. We fram and sometimes we get framed like last night. But whether we're framing or getting framed zoners don't take pvp srsly or think it's competitive beyond just ***** and giggles. |
Originally Posted by Xanatos
If you genuinely believe you're bad at PVP...then why do you still take part in it?
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I do it for the nerd rage Xan, I do it for the nerd rage. d;D
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Nerd rage is as nerd rage does but I don't know if anyone else really reaches Cover Girl status PvP. Dude would actually send me hate tells when I stopped responding to his "you suck, baddo" or "ur fat and live in ur mother's basement" broadcasts. The guy was really dedicated...
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Originally Posted by BattleWraith
Basically another Cover Girl.
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"Forum PvP doesn't give drops. Just so all of you who participated in this thread are aware." -Mod08-
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Not as good as you make it out to be, sir. No attack, just my opinion. CoH actually has had the biggest potential, if unrealized, for amazing PvP of any game I've ever played. And that's saying something as I play just about anything that comes out. Though Eve was amazingly well made if you could stomach constant space content in a MMO.|
Originally Posted by Giant2005
It is the opposite of CoH.
It is a game built around PVP with PVE as a small offshoot of it. I wouldn't recommend it, would take forever to become competetive at PVP as a new player now but the Free Trial caps you at the first tier. Doesn;t take long at all to get as good as you can at that and be competetive with the other trial players or subscribers alike. That is why I think the endless trial is better than the actual game. |
Anyway.. tired thread is tired. This has been said and brought up so many times. You could really just sum up everything by reading Hemmingway's post a few up from here and skip the rest.
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Two naughty acronym teams / Ascension / Convenient / Artic and the Chillz / Fap / Other teams I can't remember (sorry.. mind is goin')
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The funny thing about potential is that it exists in possibility and possibility alone. The LHC has the potential to spawn dancing unicorns that eat rainbows and **** marsh-mellows. But the potential of that happening is so fantastically low we don't accept it as a plausible scenario.|
Originally Posted by SmokeSignal
Not as good as you make it out to be, sir. No attack, just my opinion. CoH actually has had the biggest potential, if unrealized, for amazing PvP of any game I've ever played. And that's saying something as I play just about anything that comes out. Though Eve was amazingly well made if you could stomach constant space content in a MMO.
Anyway.. tired thread is tired. This has been said and brought up so many times. You could really just sum up everything by reading Hemmingway's post a few up from here and skip the rest. |
(potential!=real)
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I get that you don't think PVP is competitive. But the fact you go out of your way on a regular basis to point this out is very odd.
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Originally Posted by Tokyo
I'm a Zoner. Zoners don't PvP. We fram and sometimes we get framed like last night. But whether we're framing or getting framed zoners don't take pvp srsly or think it's competitive beyond just ***** and giggles.
I do it for the nerd rage Xan, I do it for the nerd rage. d;D |
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You're right. It's a bit of a lost cause to continue to inform a party that they're wrong when every other effort to change their mind failed. That's like the very definition of insanity isn't it? Or is it i13?|
Originally Posted by Xanatos
I get that you don't think PVP is competitive. But the fact you go out of your way on a regular basis to point this out is very odd.
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Anywho, I'll stop. d;D
I had a feeling you'd turn it on me. Haha. You are a strange one.
Foreal!? i havent been here in two weeks and this ish still goin on....!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgqzE...yer_detailpage
lololololololololol get it WR3K!!!!!!!!!!!! I PVP IN RL
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Originally Posted by MAD UMLAUTS
Tokyo is Terminal Lad
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Originally Posted by Boomie
LMAO
Well played good sir, well played. Still I still say paix is worse....  |
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Originally Posted by PBaRmy
soon i will have my brute built for pvp and ill be looking to go toe to toe with the best.
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Is that frost markins? O.O
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Originally Posted by Hemmingway
PvP is part of the game that people payed for upon purchasing city of Heroes/Villains in the first place. Your subscription and mine also pay for the server resources that facilitate it.
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Wrong. 100%
This game was not designed to have PvP. Going so far as to tout the game as being PvP free when launched. This is why we have the utterly annoying PvP zone contact fedex's. When they decided to add PvP with the introduction of Villains they had to go out of their way to let us know it was optional. The players at the time didn't want PvP in 'their' playground and had to be assured they wouldn't have to participate.
Also why PvE and PvP rewards are kept seperate.
PvP was added over a year after the game launched. Issue 4 To be specific.
Therefor, I can say 100% that I didn't buy the game for PvP as it wasn't even an option at the time. In this game I've always viewed it as gravy, nice to have but not necessary. Was great fun before i13 gutted it though...
Edit to add: He know's it's spamming, he's just trying to kill the thread.
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PvP was actually a design intent early on in the game (WAY back when before they overhauled the powers system) but was put to the backburner to make a more advanced release date. The systems were still being developed both before and after launch until they were ready in Issue 4. Also, that was a bit before villains were added in Issue 6.
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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
Wrong. 100%
This game was not designed to have PvP. Going so far as to tout the game as being PvP free when launched. This is why we have the utterly annoying PvP zone contact fedex's. When they decided to add PvP with the introduction of Villains they had to go out of their way to let us know it was optional. The players at the time didn't want PvP in 'their' playground and had to be assured they wouldn't have to participate. Also why PvE and PvP rewards are kept seperate. PvP was added over a year after the game launched. Issue 4 To be specific. Therefor, I can say 100% that I didn't buy the game for PvP as it wasn't even an option at the time. In this game I've always viewed it as gravy, nice to have but not necessary. Was great fun before i13 gutted it though... Edit to add: He know's it's spamming, he's just trying to kill the thread. |
"the reason there are so many sarcastic pvpers is we already had a better version of pvp taken away from us to appease bad players. Back then we chuckled at how bad players came here and whined. If we knew that was the actual voice devs would listen to instead of informed, educated players we probably would have been bigger dicks back then." -ConFlict
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I agree completely that PvP in this game is optional. However, you cannot truthfully say that everyone who subscribes is not paying for it. Whether or not it is being actively developed, the zones and Arena instances are still being hosted on the same servers.
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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
Wrong. 100%
This game was not designed to have PvP. Going so far as to tout the game as being PvP free when launched. This is why we have the utterly annoying PvP zone contact fedex's. When they decided to add PvP with the introduction of Villains they had to go out of their way to let us know it was optional. The players at the time didn't want PvP in 'their' playground and had to be assured they wouldn't have to participate. Also why PvE and PvP rewards are kept seperate. PvP was added over a year after the game launched. Issue 4 To be specific. Therefore, I can say 100% that I didn't buy the game for PvP as it wasn't even an option at the time. In this game I've always viewed it as gravy, nice to have but not necessary. Was great fun before i13 gutted it though... |
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I believe this is a more accurate representation. I fell into the group that was excited to get into PvP.|
Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
An unknown percentage of the player base at the time didn't want PvP in 'their' playground and had to be assured they wouldn't have to participate.
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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
Also why PvE and PvP rewards are kept seperate.
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Reiraku already explained this, but PvP was definitly 'on the table' when City of Heroes first came out. The developers had talked about it and had it in advertisements before release.
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I'm pretty sure the game had PVP designed and put in it. That's why we can PVP. If you're gonna start being a "purist" and argue against anything that deviated from the original concept of the game, then you're gonna have to deny the following as being "legitimately coh": Archetypes, Inventions, Raids, The AE, Respecs, going rogue....
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Originally Posted by MaestroMavius
Wrong. 100%
This game was not designed to have PvP. Going so far as to tout the game as being PvP free when launched. This is why we have the utterly annoying PvP zone contact fedex's. When they decided to add PvP with the introduction of Villains they had to go out of their way to let us know it was optional. The players at the time didn't want PvP in 'their' playground and had to be assured they wouldn't have to participate. Also why PvE and PvP rewards are kept seperate. PvP was added over a year after the game launched. Issue 4 To be specific. Therefor, I can say 100% that I didn't buy the game for PvP as it wasn't even an option at the time. In this game I've always viewed it as gravy, nice to have but not necessary. Was great fun before i13 gutted it though... Edit to add: He know's it's spamming, he's just trying to kill the thread. |
The argument that this game wasn't designed with PvP in mind is like the last bastion of hope for the delusional PvE'r. Let him have it.
Nah.
They do not offer it at my school. Is there an equivilant at a local community college that I could audit?
Mod 13 got my back! (:
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Foreal hes a good professor, you should attend sumtime
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Originally Posted by vindizzLe
There are courses available at MIT. I'm the professor.
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No, is that bad mad umlauts? all cap's cuz your cool like that....
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Originally Posted by MAD UMLAUTS
Is that frost markins? O.O
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It is a game built around PVP with PVE as a small offshoot of it. I wouldn't recommend it, would take forever to become competetive at PVP as a new player now but the Free Trial caps you at the first tier. Doesn;t take long at all to get as good as you can at that and be competetive with the other trial players or subscribers alike. That is why I think the endless trial is better than the actual game.