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Seconded. I was just talking a few days ago about how I miss Cowboy Jon.

How we averaged our kills? Or how we achieved them?

Unless you're on top of a target, you will never land your full chain in damage in a one second interval. Just putting that out there.

I'm not sure I can agree with this. Events were being run across servers regularly after the arena hit in i4. PvP has existed for a majority of this game's lifespan, test server was active for years, even after i13 changed up the rules for how we PvPed.

A lot of players have fretted on the forums, argued and complained, but we've also put a lot of work into analyzing many of the problems that we were having in order to fix them.

Do you not remember the constant posts we were making concerning arena crashes per Ex Libris' request so that we could alleviate that problem? What about the PvP leagues held on Infinity, Champion and Freedom? Lethal Lotteries? Lethal Lottery 2v2s? Iron Man Tourneys?

Maybe you don't remember that stuff, but I certainly do. If that isn't the playerbase getting active and making the most of a system that honestly feels like it was cast aside from the get-go, I don't know what is.

And then we posted the highest KD ratio of any team to ever play this game.

Jokes.

How often do you see comedians "generally" making ethnic jokes with racial slurs featured in the set-up or punchline? If/when a friend tells you a "racist" joke, does he usually follow it up with a laugh, followed by "Stupid niggers"?

Get real. The person nitpicking here is you because you keep screaming that "THE COMPARISON IS APT!" You were wrong about your analysis of a battle and you can't pull yourself around to admitting that. It's alright, I get that.

You whine more about our mission statement, match write-ups and how much we've turned this league into a "pissing contest" than I even bring up your snobby tone in another thread. I think I've already said it before that I find it hilarious that you've taken on the role of Felonious around here, it's very clear that reading comprehension must not go hand in hand with being a working graphic artist.

[quote=BattleWraith]Nice abbreviated recap of the logo debate, including this edited quote at the end:

What I actually said was this:

I quoted you in full once and responded, then broke off a part of your quote towards the end. Stop making it seem like I was quoting you out of context. You're still reaching for the tiniest things to continue the argument about, including claiming that I'm lying about something in order to make a point.

Your claim was that Refractor vs. Konflict was racial slurs "in a nutshell". What's interesting is that you also state that:

Which is funny because you just had to make a comment about my battle when you weren't even being addressed. And you want to bring up hypocrisy to me?

I pointed out that barrier using racial slurs as a trolling tactic years ago was an indication of his inability to properly troll people. I'm personally not a huge fan of using the word sand-******, or anything similar. If you think that a 6 bar joke set-up is similar to words like that, okay. I don't.

Based on what I posted to barrier, you seem to think that my battle "in a nutshell" was racial slurs because I "ran out of options". Your statement is wrong no matter which way you look at it. I didn't "fall back" on racial jokes, the lengthiest round of the battle featured the least amount of race references bar for bar.

It's a promo battle, there is no winner based on judging. Battling is premeditated, no battler is going to say that his material "isn't sufficient" before hand and decide to insert the "secret weapon" in order to gain the edge.

Race references are overdone, it's a gamble to even try writing them or freestyling them into material.

I bring up what I mentioned in a discussion over a month ago once since that time and I'm being a crybaby. I think you're reaching.

By whining, you mean pointing out that you do it frequently? I find it endearing that you feel the need to get riled up every time I post on the forums or say anything in arena chat.

Here's Dex:

Here's you:

I follow right after:

You follow up, Dex doesn't respond until 9 posts later.

If that's "agreeing that the plain logo worked well within the context of the overall site", okay.

You were posting with more frequency than anyone else, I'm not exactly sure how that is an indication of your being "done" with the conversation. And even after the conversation in that thread was concluded you were drawing pictures of Xanatos and making up a new signature image for yourself that pertained to the conversation.

If pointing out that you have a tendency to follow me around in threads equates to being paranoid, you may need to sit down and read a book.

And here especially:

Pot, kettle?

At least when I responded to your jabs at HP I wasn't misinformed and it was relevant to my group as a whole.

I'm not rejecting your comparison based on just the definition of racial slur, I'm rejecting it based on the entire content of the battle. This is probably the wrong fight for you to pick, I know my material a lot better than you do.

3 rounds with more than 16 bars per round, half of round two that was written equated to about 8 bars of asian jokes, with a few added in round 3. I didn't fall back on those as a crutch because I screwed up, that was all intended from the get-go.

Round 1 and 3, with 3 being the longest had more personals and aggression than outright racial slurs, jokes, or however it is that you want to define it.

Mathematically speaking, the majority of the content in my battle was not centered around his race, and my hardest hitting line was a personal. Therefore, "racial slurs" (however you want to define them) were not my battle against Konflict "in a nutshell".

It's relevant because you feel the need to throw it back on my face the moment it gets brought up. If it's lost on you, spare me the sarcasm.

Absolutely, and the average High-School musical features far more preparation and generally has a larger body of people working to oversee the event.

You've obviously lost sight of the fact that I initially took to the tone with which you felt the need to deliver your criticism. It was only after that you changed your tune and decided to redirect your energies towards following me around on the forums like the ghost of Felonious.

I've never claimed to be an expert on any medium of art, I brought up performance experience as a counter to your generalized statement that I had no idea about how harsh criticism could be.

I'm no expert on method acting, battling, improv or any performance related medium, and you're certainly no expert on any form of art as well.

Your approach to criticism is far different than mine, and your tone wasn't warranted. That you corrected yourself afterwards and decided to hone on me is indicative of this as well.

In order to do this, you would need to be on a voice-chat server. We would be more than happy to give you our Mumble information so that you can log on and speak to us in a Southern drawl so that we may better understand exactly what it is that you are trying to say.

The problem is that in your initial post, you claim that you do not agree with the changes made to the PvP system in i13.

Here:

That comes across as disingenuous then when you immediately claim that the worst aspect of the new Destiny is that it allows a player to achieve higher healing values, effectively reversing Heal Decay. Again, you claim that this is more broken than a bugged stun affect that can break Hibernate.

Here:


If by speaking slowly, did you mean utilizing phrases that belong in a five year-old's vernacular?

Again, this makes your prior statement about potentially disliking the PvP changes made in i13 seem disingenuous. Yes, we do HAVE Heal Decay. But that's a pretty flimsy counter-arguement. That thread of logic screams out "Because the devs do it, it is so".

Well, the devs gave us a power that reverted Heal Decay temporarily. So your arguement is also invalid. You know why? Because WE HAVE INCANDESCENCE.

Do you see how faulty that is?

The Incarnate powers are pretty "broken" across the board as far as numerical values go. And I believe that that is the way that they were intended to be. Ignoring ED, achieving ridiculous levels of defense, +recovery, +regen, +recharge or gaining a ridiculous resistance to mez effects was the point. Liberty isn't out of line to argue that the healing values and being able to temporarily beat Heal Decay seem to be in-character for Incandescence as far as Incarnates go. The only portion that doesn't seem to be in line is the stunning affect that it has as well.

It's funny, for every single poster that speaks out against the changes made years ago to a system that they enjoyed so much, there's always someone else right around the corner ready to try and smack them down for "clinging to the past".

Focus on building a better arguement about the topic, and less on attacking the poster for holding a certain view about the current state of the PvP system.

Listing a duel taking place in a zone as an example for why an Incarnate power is broken is a very poor example in multiple areas.

Well, you need a strong something, anything.

Temporarily beating Heal Decay is fine, players still have Travel Suppression to contend with. If we can't "kite around like bunnies on crack" (as you so eloquently put it) then you shouldn't have any problem getting a kill, right?

Liberty does not run double phase on any of his PvP builds. Good effort though, chief.

People have been dueling with Emp Controllers for years prior to the implementation of i13 and were able to find success. It requires a more patient level of play, but it is certainly possible and not gamebreaking in any way, as there are viable counters.

Also, anyone counting "duels" (not saying you are, specifically) in zones is outside of their mind.

You'd be surprised, racial slurs really don't get as much of a reaction as you'd think.

I don't frown upon attacking your opponent however you can, but I do think that even some things can be pretty tasteless.

But hey, go for it. If you get punched in the face, the battle footage would probably net you a few million views.

I can't tell if this is serious, but I actually despised Sneaky as a person.