No Borg In Star Trek Sequel. Will it be Kahn?

Here's a funny thing regarding Khan: in the Shatner novel THE RETURN, Spock was trying to deduce who would mostly likely have taken Kirk's body from it's grave in the previous novel (Ashes of Eden).

He's sitting at a terminal and had punched up data files on Kirk and all the enemies he made over the years, many being Klingon of course, some being corrupt Federation officers that Kirk broght down, and more. He then begins to logically eliminate candidates from the list using the main criteria of who would have the resources to still be alive in the present and who would hate Kirk so much as to still carry out a vendetta after the past 80 years...... Well Spock whittles the list down to a few candidates to investigate (i think funnily enough that Harry Mudd was still on it), and Ryker points at one entry that Spock left on the list and says "But Khan's dead!" Spock merely says "I know".

The one enemy of Kirk whose hatred of Kirk would indeed transcend time, space and even death.

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This is one of the few things on this forum that has literally made me laugh out loud:

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon John Q. Public wants to see Captain Kirk of the starship Enterprise, and he's not going to be up for sitting through Mr. Midshipman Kirk, Lieutenant Kirk, Kirk and the Hotspur, Kirk During the Crisis, and Kirk and the Atropos just to get there.

I was hoping that the next Star Trek movie would be Admiral Kirk in the West Federation.

In an unrelated matter, does anyone know if they ever made any more of those Hornblower movies with whathisname, who later appeared as a very strange Mr. Fantastic, after the ones based on Hornblower and the Hotspur?

Could be wrong, but didn't Kirk get control of the Enterprise a few years earlier than in the original universe? If so, then Kirk could change things because it is Kirk on the Enterprise instead of Pike. Might be some interesting stories that Pike had that could be retold as Kirk stories.

For a new movie I would go and look at some of the old episodes. Not about Kahn but how about the Planet Killer Doomsday Machine. They know at least two are out there and that it takes at least a ship blowing up in it's mouth to destroy it.

However with most of the fleet destroyed already what are they going to do?

On second thought that's not as Epic as I first thought. The Romulans could take the advantage of having both the Klingon and Federation fleets so devastated. There also a reason to do so like someone pointed out both the Klingons and Federation had access to the Future ship where the Romulans didn't, big motive my view. This would in hence make the major threat the Romulans like they wanted in the Original TV airing. What stopped them was the cost of the makeup for the Romulans so the Klingons were made the Major threat.

But... but... me likey da Borg!

Hmmm...hadn't thought of it before, but hasn't Star Trek had both timelines and alternate dimensions as two different things?

Going back in time didn't usually create an alternate universe. Or else, they would have made an alternate universe everytime one of the captains went back in time.

Also the new Star Trek isn't a rewrite of the old Star Trek timeline, it's an alternate dimension one, much like the Mirror Mirror ones.

Prime Universe is still going, just without Spock in it, who didn't die, but rather travelled to a new dimension and never returned to his own, where'd he see his friend Kirk (or maybe not depending on if he's considered a live or not) and Picard and company.

I'd say that's why they didn't change anything in the movie. They see it as a different dimension now.

Which is probably some of the fail people have with it. When dealing with time travel storylines into the past, one has to set out the rules and stick to them...does it change the current timeline or does it not change it and instead creates an alternate timeline/dimension or can it do one or the other under certain circumstances (which ST has never elaborated on).

As for the movie itself, I was just let down with the Kobiashi Maru scenerio. I think it was done so much better in the ST novel of the same name, for how Kirk went about reprogramming it and playing out, the movie was such a let down for it. Maybe I was expecting to much.

As for the new enemy of the next movie, I think there's a few actors who could do Khan just fine, maybe even better, but I think they should avoid it. Even if someone did it better, there'd just be those who say "There's no replacing Ricardo! No!"

Best bet is all new enemies! Save the meeting of this timeline's Khan for a ST novel if it needs to be done.

I just assumed that they rebooted Star Trek to undo the damage that Scott Bakula did with Enterprise.