Anyone else tired of store Beta Price rants?

I don't mean to come across as harsh or flaming anyone in particular, but before we get any more threads focussed on how much people think that the beta prices are too high, lets remember they are BETA PRICES. Even Positron himself logged on in the reveals thread and said that the prices at SDCC were not the final prices.

I understand the need to relay the communities thoughts that yes, these prices are too high, but do we really need a dozen more threads on it even after Devs have posted basically saying, yes, we know the prices are high and they will be adjusted?

All feedback is good.

In answer the question posed in the thread's title, no. I am, however, altogether tired of being auto-logged off the forums. Five times yesterday. Once today. So far. If I could get 10 Paragon Points for every time I get auto-logged off the forums - why, I could (hyperbolically speaking) buy the COMPANY within a year!

You beta you beta you bet!

I'm sure some prices will be lowered, and some will stay the same

If past beta tests are any indication, the current prices will go live. While some things do get changed between beta and live, policy changes are rare. Beta is the environment for "is this bugged?" and not for "hey guys, is this ok with you?" ....

Now, some prices may change, especially if anyone can bring numbers and facts to the table. Personally, I think the prices for powersets are too high, even factoring in free points and tier nine bonus points. 600 points would be more appropriate. But Arcannaville is swinging for the status quo this time, so even good strong numbers arguments with facts will face an uphill battle. Plus now these are sales related numbers, not game value tweaks. Bottom line stuff.

Odds are very high that most beta prices will hit live as-is. Though I would be delighted to eat my words.

But if prices go live as they are now, you know, whatever. If I dont like it I dont have to buy it. So no worries.


Lewis

OP> Nope, because I don't read these answers.

I'm tired of people who start threads complaining about other people's feedback, though. If there are a certain amount of people who feel that way, each of them should speak up. If it's the same folks posting a dozen times, it's unfortunate, but then again the fanboys always post a hundred times defending any little thing, so there has to be some balance (and devs have seemingly sometimes misunderstood the signal to noise ratio in the past, so it's hard to blame people for making noise ; oh, and please give a noFX option to Shield).

Of course, I could avoid these threads just as well. Hey, I don't claim to be any better than anyone else.

Where are these prices posted?

(If the answer is "in the Beta forums, which are not currently accessible to the public", then why is THIS here?)

Try searching for zombieman - he has a post with a table of observed values and what they buy (dev chats, articles, SDCC).

We must stop this complaining about the complaining of the complaining that began when we started complaining about those complaining of the complainers, whom complained about the original group of complainers who were complaining.

so, lets think about this logically (i know, hard for the interwebs to do that, but lets try).

as much as we like to point to the devs, they DO NOT SET PRICES!!!! devs are just that DEVS, they are developers, they have absolutely no control on the prices, the business model, or any financial decisions. now i don't know what companies any of you have worked for, but there seems to be a large logic gap here.

beta pricing means it's being evaluated, but by who? the devs? nope, they are computer geeks, not numbers geeks, and definitely not the ones who will raise or lower the prices, but they are the ones we have direct access to (well, close enough). so what can we do to let those who have the decision making power know that we aren't happy with the pricing? we complain, not AT the devs, but to the devs, cuz we don't have access to the NCSoft accounting forums. look, no one is sitting on the beta for this going, "well....hmmmm....prices are....ummm a little high, a little low.... darn it i'll just flip a coin", they are judging feedback from their paying customer base, and the relayed info from the devs. if we DON'T complain, then we will be to blame when the prices stay the same. the devs are great, always have been, i love this game and all that they bring to it, BUT they are at best middle men in this, and as such, don't need the protection of the forum apologists. trying to stifle negative reaction to the new business model for fear of hurting the devs feelings, or sticking up for what you consider some kind of friendship by proxy will not help the matter. the devs are aware that they don't make these decisions, and i am sure they want what will make us happy, i really do, but only they can relay the discontent we have towards the pricing structure, and if we "play nice" we only do ourselves a disservice.

Nope. If no one complains then improvements won't be made. Especially considering this is about real world money. They are not here to be our friends, they are here to do their jobs. And their jobs is to get as much money from us as possible.

It isn't hard for me not to read the threads that don't interest me.

I think that all good, right thinking players in this game are sick and tired of being told that all good, right thinking players in this game are fed up with being told that all good, right thinking players in this game are fed up with being sick and tired. I'm certainly not, and I'm sick and tired of being told that I am.

(with apologies to the masters)

Sadly there are a lot of dumb players out there who can't for the life of them understand what beta is or stands for. Till then we can only pray.

(i hate to be kinda harsh...but i'm too sick of them.)